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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 5:51 PMSara, as a virgin, concentrate your energy on radical self-reliance. Get your infrastructure taken care of: shelter, food, water, personal care. The gift of keeping yourself healthy, in good spirits and not becoming a liability to others in your camp can be enough of a challenge for a first timer. Seeing the energy and wonder of a virgin at her first burn is often a gift in itself for veterans. Share your exuberance. If you feel like you've got the self-reliance thing handled ... gifts should not be meaningless trinkets. Even items you make by hand may not mean much if you just hand them to a random passersby. Some of the things I've seen mentioned as ideal gifts are something in need at the moment of need, for example lip balm, sunscreen, the loan of a sledge hammer, duct tape for an emergency repair, help setting up a tent. If someone is struggling to get into the spirit, often times a hug, a kind word, a complement on their costume can be a huge gift. Last year one of the best gifts I received was from a guy who set up a silk screen with an original BM design who would apply the design to your shirt. Another great gift was a conversation I had with a woman named Puff. What I did last year was randomly hand out 40 pounds of hard frozen ice cream treats on Wednesday afternoon. People were amazed to see such a thing on a hot afternoon. If you have the ability, sing, play an instrument, teach someone a magic trick, tell a good joke. I think often times the best gifts are those associated with making a personal connection with someone.
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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 6:08 PM(yep, I agree with Jeff re: not purchasing mass-produced crap to hand out like Mardi Gras)
My best suggestion for now: Cold (and I mean ice-cold) drinks! Delivered out to the far reaches of the open playa, in the middle of the day! Early on in the week, artists will still be setting up their art, and it's often 8+ hour days of hard-ass labour in the sun. Nothing says "Thank you for making wonderful art for me to participate with and enjoy!" better than riding up on your bike with a soft-sided cooler full of ice and cold ____(insert beverage here-- beer, soda, energy drink, water)___.
Fun things to make would be useful-yet-customized items-- hand-painted silky scarves (useful for keeping dust out of eyes/mouth/nose, keeping warmish at night), tie-dyed bandannas, pendants (pendants are BIG in BRC, you'll come to find out), items of clothing, decorated goggles, decorated/customized dust masks (the cheapo kind you find at the paint store)..... the list goes on and on!
But yes, get your own stuff sorted out first. Gifts are NOT necessary. Sometimes, the best gift you can give someone is your "HOLY SHIT OMG YAY BURNING MAN!" enthusiasm once you get to the playa. It allows us jaded, bitter Burners to see the Burn through the eyes of an enthusiastic virgin.
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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 6:21 PMJeff and Heatherlyn:
Bingo
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Bingo
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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 8:11 PMAnother aspect of gifting is gifting your time. This may be in an organized fashion, as in volunteering (and there are SO many opportunities). Or it might be spontaneous, as in just listening to someone who is having a hard time, or helping to pound tent stakes, or chasing down wind-blown trash.
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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 8:16 PMp.s. re: Gifting your time:
BE A GREETER.
BE A GREETER!!!!
....only after you've been there a day or two first, though. When you sign up for Greeters greeters.burningman.com , request a shift that's a bit later in the week, so you can get acclimated. But seriously, it's consistently the best fucking time I have on the Playa.
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Sun, February 17, 2008 - 9:01 PMooooh, glowsticks are cheap and useful as well. so many people out there arent lit up, and next years supposed to be really really dark. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 6:32 AMJust say no to glow sticks !! they can only be used once, and then you have to throw theme out.
These will Create lots of MOOP
You would be better off buying some L.E.D's of some sort that run on batteries.
I found a web site last year bought a bunch put a little BM embleme on them and gave them out.
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 9:21 AMwhile I agree that LEDs are better than glow in theory, any LED toy or blinky cheap enough to buy in a large-ish quantity for gifting is very unlikely to be reusable, so it basically creates more trash an a disposable glow stick.
the batteries for those items cost more than the LED toy/blinky itself, making it completely uneconomical to do replace it. for example, $1 star blinky uses batteries that cost $3. in addition, they often have several tiny tiny screws that are difficult to remove and a delicate battery housing that makes removing the batteries difficult without damaging the device.
honestly, I'd rather see people buy some glow bracelets if they're going to gift illumination. They can be used for everything from bike and tent markers, to people and bag illumination, to fixing the broken toilet paper dispenser in the potties when the glow has worn out. You can keep the old bracelets (no glow left), wrap colored tape around them in different designs and still use them as bracelets when they're done.
Really, when it comes to gifting I agree that it's often best for newbies to just take care of their own needs and make extra effort to follow the guidelines and participate. Gifting your time for cleanup or building or just listening is a valued commodity. :) If you're going to gift I've found that gifting a smaller number of items that are worthy and useful (costing the gifter more time or money) is MUCH MUCH MUCH better than trinkets we'll all throw out eventually. practical things like lip balm, wet wipes, zip locks for the potty, dust masks, bandanas, cold drinks, coffee, cups, etc. are always welcome.
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 9:32 AMbtw, if anyone else has ideas for reusing dead glow bracelets or sticks, I invite you to share your tips here: tribes.tribe.net/burningbr...daf97dff6d :)
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Wed, February 20, 2008 - 3:52 AMHey Lady! Thank you, thank you... your posts are gifts :-)
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 3:59 AMI make these glow in the dark beaded bracelets for my kids and a few of their friends that are out a lot after dark. They glow pretty bright and last for about 4-5 hours on a single charge. I don't do anything special they just sit out on my night stand in my room. I was thinking of bringing some to the playa. What do you guys think? -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 4:38 AMmore info please! wadda ya use and how... thanks :-)
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:36 AMIf you *must* use glowsticks, before you go to the playa, line them up and spraypaint the top of them (or one end, if you're using the skinny ones with connectors) BRIGHT RED. Just a little bit is fine, but get some colour on there. And spraypaint those damned tiny connectors red, too.
Why do that, you ask? Glowsticks are basically colourless once the glow is gone, and when you drop them on the playa they disappear. This creates a problem for de-MOOPing later, but they'll be much easier to spot on the ground if they have a bit of bright red.
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 5:55 PMPlease don't gift glowsticks.
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 6:03 PM"Please don't gift glowsticks. "
personally, I'm looking for UV reactive or glow-in-the-dark pellets and a paint ball gun. ;) I figure why buy glow or blinky when you can just splatter someone with glowy paint at close range. Nothing to throw away and you can bet they'll remember to bring some kind of light next time. Plus, nightime commando fun. ;P
[disclaimer: yes, I'm kidding. no, don't go painting people. yes, the paint could get on the playa. yes, that would be bad. ;) ] -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:35 PMWell, poo. Wife & I are going to be first-timers and today she thought it would be cool to bring the 80 pounds of beads we collected when we went to Mardi Gras eight years ago and hand those out to folks, but it sounds like that might be sorta tackyish.
She wants to join a group and do some large-scale cooking. Haven't found out how to find people to join with yet. Hoping a Sacramento-region crew works out as such.
If there's a way to find Burners who are good at barbershop and go around giving music I could do that all week. Hard part I suppose is finding them near enough for practice times (and of course finding the right voices).
Wish I played a hipper more flexible instrument than trumpet. Does anyone ever throw together a jazz band? :)
Prolly I should participate here on tribe more, huh. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:40 PMLook for the Burning Band... BRC has a fab marching band!
80 pounds of beads? That's a lot of beads! If you've got them anyway, might as well figured out something to do with them. If not gifting, why not turn them into an art project? -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:56 PM>an art project?
Ha, I'm imagining about 15 naked mannequins with smeared makeup, covered in beads. Art title? "SHOW US YER TITS!"
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:56 PMMoongazer, bring the trumpet. I saw several different camps the where "jam sessions" were the norm. When you get there just take it for a walk and keep your ears open you will find a place!
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:13 PMMoongazer, what could be hipper *than* a trumpet at BM?
... unless it's a flaming trumpet a la flaming tuba man www.youtube.com/watch
I envision a flaming brass marching band playing Sousa'a Liberty Bell
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:24 PMmoongazer,
trumpet is totally hip. :) seriously: Miles, man. ;)
I'm sure you could find some people to play with or just entertain some folks on your own. You may want to investigate the effects of the alkali dust on your instrument before taking it though. It might gum up the levers.
re: the beads, I'm sure they could be used for something else cool. decorate your bag or clothes or tent with them. restring them into something else and gift them. :)
but yeah, I have to be honest here... I don't want to sound snarky or exclusionary, but if someone were to try to give me mardi gras beads I'd be annoyed or insulted at best.
First, they're cheap, they're useless, they don't serve a costume or practical purpose, they're likely to break and leave little bead garbage all around that I then have to go chasing so I don't moop.
Second, people give mardi gras beads for women to "show us your tits"... frankly, my boobs are worth a lot more than a couple of plastic beads and no one worthy of seeing them would offer beads anyway. So the original mardi gras beads are insulting and creepy.
Third, to then to bring that to BM is insulting by association, and to saddle me with a cheap plastic gift that has cheap plastic connotations that I'm going to have to take all the way home is just annoying. Regardless of your intention.
Fourth, it associates something like BM with something as crass and lame as mardi gras.
So really, not so much a way to get a good start with fellow burners IMO. Others might feel differently. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 9:12 PMI've made a painting (a couple actually) titled MOOP ... a strand of beads in a playa-like painted surface. They don't fall off the string, they're molded right onto it, Bastards to break. Fun to drop the painting on the ground in front of the Home for Wayward Art because it blends right into the dust, except for the moop-y looking beads. People try to pick it up and it seems like the playa is coming up with the beads. Someone liked the paintings, they were adopted.
We have a bunch of beads, I'm going to make skirts or halters. MyLarry has been given a lot of them down in Vegas. Or maybe curtains for camp. Or a mosaic. Or a really heavy headpiece.
I think Show Us yer Tits installation would be screamingly sarcastic. Acquiring and transporting that many mannequins ... ouch!
Trumpet, yes, please! Way coolio.
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Fri, May 2, 2008 - 1:01 PMI'm from the Sacramento area and would -totally- be interested in cooking with your wife!
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Tue, February 19, 2008 - 3:47 PMwhile i appreciate your sentiments, i would much rather gift a glowstick, than have to dodge people and risk hurting someone on my bike. -
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Tue, February 19, 2008 - 5:10 PMI'm going to recycle my answer to this question in the 2007 virgins tribe because I still like it. :)
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First of all, thanks for asking because this was a question that vexed me too as I prepared for my first burn.
I found that as a first time burner in '06, I never felt *obliged* to gift anything. Once people learn that it's your virgin burn, your presence there is gift enough. That sounds cheesy, but it's true. I had actually bought a bunch of glowsticks to give away, and after I bought them I read on tribe that there's a bit of an anti-glowstick sentiment (passive MOOPing some people call it). I did give some away to appreciative darkwads (some prefer the term playa ninjas), and never experienced anti-glowstick backlash. But still, I see the point of the anti-glowstick-gifting crowd, and won't be giving them away next year.
As a virgin, your primary gift is to survive your first burn. That said, gifts can take many forms. There were some cool people at my nearest corner (3:25 and Hope) who, in the heat of the day were giving away snowcones. (Whoever you are, you people rock!) So when I went to Artica to pick up ice, I picked up a couple extra bags to give to them. There were people giving away popsicles during the exodus, which I thought was a cool idea.
Think simple. Don't bother with the trinkety stuff. When you go to a bar, don't just get a drink, chat up the bartender, or flirt if you're so inclined. That's a gift too. A cold beer to a stranger, a kind word to someone in distress, an extra innertube to someone with a flat bicycle tire, a fresh lime for a neighbor's taco, a compliment to an artist, they're all welcome. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 6:52 AMHatfield scribed: "There were some cool people at my nearest corner (3:25 and Hope) who, in the heat of the day were giving away snowcones (Whoever you are, you people rock). So when I went to Artica to pick up ice, I picked up a couple of extra bags to give to them."
(An older post but I just read it for the first time)
That would have been "Red" from Eugene, OR., and his entourage of volunteers from the local "Hood" on that BRC block in '06.
The true gifts I received at Burning Man (and hopefully reciprocated) were the great people I got to know and spend time with in the local neighborhood.
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Tue, February 26, 2008 - 12:46 PMWhat a helpful thread...thanks for the gift!! ^ - ^ -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:39 PMTime is good too. As mentioned, a lot of artists are out there slaving away, and if you happen to show up earlier in the week, helping out is appreciated. If you happen to see somebody driving several hundred pieces of rebar into the playa, and attaching skis to them, feel free to offer to help. Or give him beer. Or kisses. Or all three. I know he'll like it. -
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:47 PMGuess I will delete the other one then, oh well seemed like a good idea I guess it was. -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 1:25 AMsilliest gifts but i loved them:
little assorted essential oil containers attached to necklaces of assorted materials. ( I gave away many massages and was gifted many wonderful hand made gifts)
home blended MP3 CD's.
mini bic lighters with custom made BM stickers stuck to them. (kept one from '02 just because I like the sticker)
custom coinage or emblements used for necklaces. usually glass/ceramic, plastic, metal, or beaded and customized to the year and theme.
chap stick.
condoms.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 1:00 PMIn three words: Time and Participation. (The gift of your time and your willingness to participate with a joyful and friendly spirit is the biggest gift you can give. IMHO. And it comes in all different forms and times... By keeping your eyes peeled and your ears open, you will not lack for opportunity to help and connect to others.)
The most meaningful gifts that I was given last year:
A ride from deep Playa on an Art Car to my camp @ 7:30 &D when I was alone, lost and tired.
Lessons on how to ride a bike.
Company for picking up ice at Arctic Circle.
The experience of the Human Carcass Wash, shared with friends, late in the week.
Having a conversation with a stranger who spent twenty minutes just looking into my eyes when he spoke, rather than looking everywhere but.
Being rescued in the second dust storm by a campmate and laughing until the dust cleared in his vehicle.
Being welcomed into a Geo Dome and offered a drink and a chair when the first dust storm hit.
Ice Cream made fresh, from scratch on the Playa.
A pat on the hand and quiet company while I rested off a bad headache one afternoon for an hour.
Being trusted to care for a couple of sick campmates.
Someone offering to take a couple of photos of The Boyfriend and I, so we could have a few pictures of us together.
Being invited to a Playa Wedding.
The invitation to jump on a giant trampoline.
The encouragement to climb the scaffolding at Opulent Temple when I stared to feel a little timid.
Having my hair washed for me after I was naive enough to think that texture wax and Playa dust would make a cute hairstyle.
The list goes on and on... But you get the idea. Not a bead, or condom, or trinket in the bunch. Nothing purchased, only things that invested one person into another for a moment or more, made it into my list, my heart, my memories... -
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:49 PMYep yep yep.
Just be kind to people. Two years ago we had been putting up our dome (Rufus and I) while the rest of our camp scampered off to "experience the Burn." It was hot, and we were working into the afternoon because we had lost our helpers.
Well, we were camped next to the Iron Rose, and Heidi saw us working- she also saw how red Rufus' face was, and immediately took him to their greywater area and dumped some cold (fresh from the cooler) water on him, took us both into their shade, turned on the misters and gave us icy drinks.
I will never forget that. Heidi ROCKS.
The entire week, we mingled with them, laughed, interacted, and became friends.
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Tue, May 6, 2008 - 5:30 PMI got a bunch of non petroleum lip balm on ropes last year and brought em out.
Its amazing how many BM vets at our camp forgot lip balm!
It was great to give them the gift of lip comfort !
I cant stand lip stuff in default land, but its GOLD out in the desert.
I also got a bunch of Bic lighters and decorated them with stickers and stuff (no moopy glitter).....those make great handy gifts for smokers.
I make vinyl stickers in my shop, so I always make some of the Man and the year it is and sticker peoples nalgene water bottles. useless, but hey! It feels good to look at that nalgene botlle at another festival or when youre out running at home and remember the moment you got it at Bman. Sometimes silly useless stuff feels good.
However, the first poster is so right on about just being prepared and not worrying aobut having something to give someone. Just do it if it feels good for YOU. Your smile is what everyone really wants, that and a cold one ;-).
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 4:01 PMThe best gifts that I got.
Hand crafted blown glass labia necklace.
Hand crafted blown glass fish.
Friendly conversations with open minded happy people.
Smiles and eye contact with people that I did not know and that I would never see again.
Free Drinks in the evening.
BACON in the morning.
BRC 07 sticker for my truck window.
All of the fantastic art that people brought or made there.
Smiles
party supplies.......hehe