My partmer of 8 years has a 12th house Sagittarius Sun. He is a deeply spiritual and compassionate person, highly intuitive and just a very beautiful soul.

The down side to the 12th house can be issues with establishing proper boundaries with others even energetically where you get too involved with others problems or energies due to being too self sacrificing.

Also being a house of FALL for the sun, it can pose problems with addictions and desire for negative escapism when the world feels too harsh the 12th house can seduce you into thinking that escaping will help when its really only a temporary sense of relief.

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This is a sun in the 12th house article that I can relate to. I also have sun in gemini in the 12th house.

funny thing actually... I went to get my palm read (by someone who isn't full of crap) and she said I had A BUNCH of bad karma from my past life that I have to work through this life. I don't think that's fair, I didn't really do anything to deserve this, someone else did. But oh well, what can ya do?

Then she mentioned how I should stay away from drugs and alcohol because that was a problem of my past life, which someone mentioned that people with 12th house suns try to escape or something.

I had always wondered why I like could only be myself when I was alone or with my closest friend. Your earlier post you pointed out how you never really notice your sun sometimes, and I also have a scorpio moon as well, I don't identify with gem sun most times. And sometimes not at all. I also like being alone in a crowd (not all the time though.. prob my cancer asc.).


roth... I was reading this one thing about gem/scorpios and this might be why you see your self as foggy

"One of the most difficult combinations of signs is Gemini and Scorpio, whether you find this within one person's chart - one of the sun, the other the ascendant - or between two charts. They personify the opposite poles of air and water beautifully. Scorpio is a water sign, and therefore highly subjective, with feeling-based responses. And the typical Scorpios will rarely put up with evasiveness, since his nature compels him to dig to the bottom of any issue to discover its hidden roots and motives. Gemini can't bear to be psychoanalyzed, largely because he's terrified of what he'll find underneath. Many Geminians are scornful of the whole realm of psychological exploration, because they have the gift of analyzing things and figure that once you've named a problem it'll go away quietly. Of course it doesn't since intellectual analysis isn't any help with feelings. Gemini will often be flippant when accused of some dark and convoluted motive. Or he'll make something up. Or he'll go cold, and simply not answer, or walk out. The truth is that he doesn't know, and what he doesn't know frightens him. Have compassion. Gemini often seeks help from intellectual maps and systems and structures in his attempts to find out what he really feels about things. "
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This makes sense to me, although with four planets in the 12th house in gemini (sun, mercury, venus & mars), it gets a little confusing sometimes figuring out what is what. I also find, and I think this is Sun in 12th stuff, that I vacillate between feeling very confident in the world and then wanting to withdraw completely. Maybe that's the gemini stuff trying to break through the hidden 12th house stuff.

I am a 12th House Sun Sagittarius with North Node in Gemini. Everything you say here I can relate to so deeply. It is actually pretty
comforting knowing that someone else goes through this feeling comfortable surrounded by the unknown. Whenever I am with
someone who I feel knows me, I feel I have to put on this mask that never is a good description of who I really am. Thanks for your
post!!!

my goodness.
difficulty with people talking to me or showing too much attention but feel rejected if they dont.
chat and run. madness.

"For example, the Sun's energy seeks to distinguish oneself as a separate identity. It feels very much "at home" in the fifth house which is its natural domain. In the twelfth, however, it is not as comfy-cozy! The twelfth house energy attempts to dissolve ego boundaries. The Sun is very personal, while the twelfth house is universal. The Sun represents the individual ego, and the twelfth house represents the collective. As such, the Sun in the twelfth house position is more complicated, both to live with and to interpret, than the Sun in the fifth house. "


The entire goal is to realize you are not the center of the universe but merely a part of it. The egotism of people just astounds me. It's impossible to be truly separate from everything around you. It's only by realizing that you are actually part of everything that you finally see your connection to it and the beauty of it. It's the ego that separates us and makes us lonely. That's the illusion.

I have to have a lot of seclusion to regenerate. It's getting away from all the made up distractions to be one with everything again. There are very few people I can be in that state with and those are the only ones I allow around me when I need that. As for the rest of the world, they can have their create-a-drama. It's all fiction they make up anyway. The only truth is the universe. If it decided people were a cosmic nuisance it would annihilate them. This idea that people hold so much universal importance is just too strange. We are one tiny little spec.

As for being seen for my Sun and Mars in the 12th house, people make the mistake of thinking they really know me because I'm quiet, but when they really push it, they find out in a hurry. They get to meet my Scorpio Ascendant. I had to establish myself as a kid. I know exactly who I am and what I want. I don't take on anyone's personality to make them feel more comfortable. They don't have any right to even expect me to do that. I'm not even sure why anyone would do that.

The only thing I think about my 12th house Libra Sun is that if it is shrouded it's just letting my Scorpio shine and that's just fine with me. I'm fair and I'm honest, but beyond that I'm not flirty or flaky and I don't want to be either. I'm certainly not going to sugar coat anything to make myself or anyone else feel better. The truth doesn't get any easier by hiding it.