Notice how these perverts concentrate on abusing little girls.
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52 Girls Removed From Texas Compound
Polygamist.Retreat
Officials escort two buses Friday April 4, 2008 from the retreat built by th...
By MICHELLE ROBERTS, AP
2 hours ago
ELDORADO, Texas — Child welfare officials are scrambling to find foster homes for dozens of girls removed from a secretive West Texas religious retreat built by polygamist leader Warren Jeffs after a 16-year-old living there complained of physical abuse.
Officials from Texas Child Protective Services, escorted by state troopers, took 52 girls, ages 6 months to 17 years, from the remote retreat on Friday afternoon.
By the end of the day, 18 were put legally into state custody, and CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner said interviews would continue Saturday. A warrant has been issued for at least one individual.
The girls put in state custody were believed to be in danger, Meisner said. "Those are the ones we believe have been abused or they are in imminent risk of harm, and it would not be safe for those children to remain in the compound," she said.
Child welfare officials were looking for foster homes for the girls, most of whom have rarely been outside the insular world of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They were being housed for now at a civic center, she said.
"We're dealing with children that aren't accustomed to the outside world, so we're trying to be very sensitive to their needs," Meisner said.
The investigation began with a call Monday alleging physical abuse of a 16-year-old girl living there, Meisner said. Authorities first arrived at the compound Thursday evening. They interviewed and searched through the night.
On Friday, a search warrant and arrest warrant were issued.
The search warrant sought records dealing with the birth of children to a 16-year-old and any records listing a marriage between a 50-year-old man and the girl, according to the San Angelo Standard-Times, which cited court records released late Friday in Tom Green County.
The individual listed in the arrest warrant had not been located by Friday evening, said Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange. She said she could not reveal whose name was on the warrant.
A small white bus that left the compound accompanied by state troopers was filled with children, Meisner said. She could not immediately say how many.
The bus was filled with what appeared to be mostly girls, dressed in conservative long-sleeve dresses.
The ranch covers roughly 1,700 acres. It is north of this two-stoplight town, down a narrow paved road. Authorities blocked access to the compound's gate, keeping onlookers miles away.
State officials said they did not know how many people lived at the retreat, but local officials in 2006 put the number at about 150, as members of the reclusive church moved from a community on the Arizona-Utah line.
The congregation, known as FLDS, has been led by Jeffs since his father's death in 2002. It is one of several groups that split from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, based in Salt Lake City, decades after it renounced polygamy in 1890.
In November, Jeffs was sentenced to two consecutive sentences of five years to life in prison in Utah for being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl who wed her cousin in an arranged marriage in 2001.
In Arizona, Jeffs is charged as an accomplice with four counts each of incest and sexual conduct with a minor stemming from two arranged marriages between teenage girls and their older male relatives. He is jailed in Kingman, Ariz., awaiting trial.
The Eldorado retreat, about 160 miles northwest of San Antonio, is on a former exotic game ranch. The church bought the property in 2004 for $700,000 and began an ambitious construction program anchored by an 80-foot-tall, gleaming white temple.
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52 Girls Removed From Texas Compound
Polygamist.Retreat
Officials escort two buses Friday April 4, 2008 from the retreat built by th...
By MICHELLE ROBERTS, AP
2 hours ago
ELDORADO, Texas — Child welfare officials are scrambling to find foster homes for dozens of girls removed from a secretive West Texas religious retreat built by polygamist leader Warren Jeffs after a 16-year-old living there complained of physical abuse.
Officials from Texas Child Protective Services, escorted by state troopers, took 52 girls, ages 6 months to 17 years, from the remote retreat on Friday afternoon.
By the end of the day, 18 were put legally into state custody, and CPS spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner said interviews would continue Saturday. A warrant has been issued for at least one individual.
The girls put in state custody were believed to be in danger, Meisner said. "Those are the ones we believe have been abused or they are in imminent risk of harm, and it would not be safe for those children to remain in the compound," she said.
Child welfare officials were looking for foster homes for the girls, most of whom have rarely been outside the insular world of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They were being housed for now at a civic center, she said.
"We're dealing with children that aren't accustomed to the outside world, so we're trying to be very sensitive to their needs," Meisner said.
The investigation began with a call Monday alleging physical abuse of a 16-year-old girl living there, Meisner said. Authorities first arrived at the compound Thursday evening. They interviewed and searched through the night.
On Friday, a search warrant and arrest warrant were issued.
The search warrant sought records dealing with the birth of children to a 16-year-old and any records listing a marriage between a 50-year-old man and the girl, according to the San Angelo Standard-Times, which cited court records released late Friday in Tom Green County.
The individual listed in the arrest warrant had not been located by Friday evening, said Department of Public Safety spokeswoman Tela Mange. She said she could not reveal whose name was on the warrant.
A small white bus that left the compound accompanied by state troopers was filled with children, Meisner said. She could not immediately say how many.
The bus was filled with what appeared to be mostly girls, dressed in conservative long-sleeve dresses.
The ranch covers roughly 1,700 acres. It is north of this two-stoplight town, down a narrow paved road. Authorities blocked access to the compound's gate, keeping onlookers miles away.
State officials said they did not know how many people lived at the retreat, but local officials in 2006 put the number at about 150, as members of the reclusive church moved from a community on the Arizona-Utah line.
The congregation, known as FLDS, has been led by Jeffs since his father's death in 2002. It is one of several groups that split from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, based in Salt Lake City, decades after it renounced polygamy in 1890.
In November, Jeffs was sentenced to two consecutive sentences of five years to life in prison in Utah for being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl who wed her cousin in an arranged marriage in 2001.
In Arizona, Jeffs is charged as an accomplice with four counts each of incest and sexual conduct with a minor stemming from two arranged marriages between teenage girls and their older male relatives. He is jailed in Kingman, Ariz., awaiting trial.
The Eldorado retreat, about 160 miles northwest of San Antonio, is on a former exotic game ranch. The church bought the property in 2004 for $700,000 and began an ambitious construction program anchored by an 80-foot-tall, gleaming white temple.
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 12:04 PMAren't these splinter groups of Christians just "Lovely"!
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 12:58 PM<Aren't these splinter groups of Christians just "Lovely"!
Texas seems to be plaugued with these "Christian Cult's>
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 1:56 PM
I wonder at what point religious fundamentalism descends into major mental illness... these 52 girls are going to need a lot of therapy and they are just the ones we know about..... I find it hard to understand why we don't see any official "christians" speaking out about this abuse in the national media.... what's stopping them? ): -
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 2:05 PM<what's stopping them>
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 12:05 AMFLDS is a creepy group. I'm an exmo, and the FLDS are extremely creepy even compared to the Mormons...
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 9:30 AM>>>hard to understand why we don't see any official "christians" speaking out about this abuse in the national media..<<<
Many Christians and quite a few Christianoids do not regard Mormons as Christians at all, because of their reliance on a religious text that claims to "complete" the Bible, and which was written less than three hundred years ago with a very peculiar story attached that claims it was written on golden plates delivered by and angel. The angel in question and the golden plates have never been produced in evidence, I'm not sure what excuse if given, so many doubt the story. The Mormons insist, of course, that they are the only true Christians and that everyone else is a "gentile". It is a matter of some humor that Utah is the only place in the world where a Jew is likely to be considered a gentile, but such is the nature of religious mania.
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 10:23 AM<Many Christians and quite a few Christianoids do not regard Mormons as Christians at all, because of their reliance on a religious text that claims to "complete" the Bible, and which was written less than three hundred years ago with a very peculiar story attached that claims it was written on golden plates delivered by and angel. The angel in question and the golden plates have never been produced in evidence, I'm not sure what excuse if given, so many doubt the story.>
I have this hypothesis about the origin of Mormonism. Joseph Smith was a treasure hunter, which was a common scam of the day. The woods were literally full of grifters who wandered around the countryside pretending to be able to find buried treasure. I think that one night, Joseph Smith camped out with either an escaped slave or a freed slave who was also in the treasure hunting business. This ex-slave was a Moslem who told Smith the story of how Mohammad found a cave containing the Archangel Gabriel and how Gabriel dictated the Koran to Mohammad. Joseph Smith liked the story so much that he stole it and named his "angel" Maroni. -
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Fri, April 18, 2008 - 8:15 AM>>>I have this hypothesis about the origin of Mormonism<<<
I once read an expose of Mormonism written by a woman who had been born and raised a Mormon, but got out. Her version was that Joseph Smith had recently become a Mason shortly before he came up with his story about golden plates and an angel named Moroni. If you drop the final "i" of that name, you might get a terse, but pungent comment on the kind of folks that swalllow that guff. According to the author I mentioned, Smith incorporated a good deal of Masonic ideas into the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latterday Saints, including the use of Masonic handshakes and other recognition signals, which seems to mean that he was in violation of his oaths to the Masonic Order. Among the peculiar teachings of Mormonism, we are told that a wife can be admitted to Heaven only by her husband, so if she dies first, she has to wait outside the gates possibly for decades, waiting for her husband's arrival. Then he must enter before her, reach back to take her hand and pull her through. Even then, it is all for naught unless he and she both remember the secret handshake that allows entry to the Heavenly Realm. They are taught this in the Temple, provided they are "Temple Mormons", but if they don't have the secret, there is no way to enter. Such are the mysteries of God's providence apparently.
I must add that this book (wish I could remember the title) was an expose, written by a disaffected Mormon (Mormoness?), so I have some doubt as to the authenticity of some of this information; a lot of it seems far-fetched, but then so does the Mormon religion to me. Oh, well.
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Sun, April 20, 2008 - 9:36 PM<...Among the peculiar teachings of Mormonism, we are told that a wife can be admitted to Heaven only by her husband, so if she dies first, she has to wait outside the gates possibly for decades, waiting for her husband's arrival. Then he must enter before her, reach back to take her hand and pull her through....>
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Sun, April 20, 2008 - 10:04 PM>>>And don't forget the sanctified underwear. Kinky<<<
That's right, Lion Lady, I thought of mentioning the "garments" but remembered I'm long-winded enough already.
With love under will,
Bob, Adastra, WOJ
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What Does Waco Stand For?
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 3:20 AMIt stands for,
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Conflict Escalates at Polygamist Retreat
Polygamist.Retreat
Officials escort two buses Friday April 4, 2008 from the retreat built by th...
By MICHELLE ROBERTS, AP
2 hours ago
ELDORADO, Texas — Law enforcement manned a roadblock miles from a polygamist temple where sect leaders refused to let authorities enter to search for a teenager whose report of abuse initiated a raid on the West Texas compound.
Authorities provided no details early Sunday about the standoff.
Allison Palmer, a prosecutor in Tom Green County, told the San Angelo Standard-Times that medical workers were sent to the compound "in case this were to a go in a way that no one wants." She had said authorities will forcibly remove the sect's followers "as peaceably as possible" if no agreement could be reached.
A stream of ambulances and law-enforcement vehicles left the compound late Saturday.
A bus that appeared to be filled with women was parked early Sunday at a civic center south of town, where a lawyer and law-enforcement officials were talking with them.
Authorities are searching for a 16-year-old mother whose report of alleged abuse led to a search of the secretive religious retreat built by polygamist leader Warren Jeffs.
"Things have been a little tense, a little volatile," Palmer said Saturday.
Palmer could not be reached for comment early Sunday. Other authorities, citing a gag order, continued to decline to comment.
State welfare officials have removed nearly 200 women and children from the compound, operated by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
"They seem to be doing fine," Marleigh Meisner, a spokeswoman for Child Protective Services, told The Associated Press.
Troopers armed with a search warrant raided the compound on Friday to look for evidence of a marriage between the girl and 50-year-old Dale Barlow.
The girl had a baby eight months ago, when she was 15, according to court documents. Under Texas law, girls younger than 16 cannot marry, even with parental approval.
Barlow's probation officer told The Salt Lake Tribune that he was in Arizona.
"He said the authorities had called him (in Colorado City, Ariz.) and some girl had accused him of assaulting her and he didn't even know who she was," said Bill Loader, a probation officer in Arizona.
Barlow was sentenced to jail time last year after pleading no contest to conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor. He was also ordered to register as a sex offender for three years while he is on probation.
His lawyer in that case, Bruce Griffen, said he had not spoken to Barlow in a year.
The search warrant instructed officers to look for marriage records or other evidence linking her to the man and the baby. The warrant authorized the seizure of computer drives, CDs, DVDs or photos.
Those inside the retreat did not respond to requests for comment.
The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints broke away from the Mormon church after the latter disavowed polygamy more than a century ago.
The compound sits down a narrow paved road and behind a hill that shields it almost entirely from view in town. Only the 80-foot-high, gleaming white temple can be seen on the horizon.
The 1,700-acre property had been an exotic game ranch. It is surrounded by dusty, wind-swept land where sheep are raised and mohair produced.
Eldorado (pronounced el-dor-AY'-do) is a two-stoplight town of fewer than 2,000 people and located nearly 200 miles northwest of San Antonio. It consists of a cluster of government buildings, a couple churches and a few blocks of houses.
State officials said they did not know how many people lived at the retreat. Local officials estimated two years ago that about 150 people were there.
The sect has been led by Warren Jeffs since his father died in 2002. In November, Jeffs was sentenced to two consecutive sentences of five years to life in prison in Utah for being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl who wed her cousin in an arranged marriage in 2001.
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 10:41 AMI think that it's safe to say that they managed to get the whistle-blower to an undisclosed location in the hills. There is a good possibility she is in one of the FCLD compounds in the Mexican hills.
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Cops Peacefully Enter Polygamist Temple
Polygamist.Retreat
Officials escort two buses Friday April 4, 2008 from the retreat built by th...
By MICHELLE ROBERTS, AP
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ELDORADO, Texas — Law enforcement agents entered an enormous temple on the grounds of a polygamist compound, but by Sunday morning they still had not found a 16-year-old girl whose initial report of abuse led to the raid.
"There were some tense moments last night, but everything has remained calm and peaceful and they are continuing their search," said Allison Palmer, a prosecutor from a nearby county handling the case, early Sunday.
More than 180 women and children were taken Friday and Saturday from the compound built by followers of polygamist leader Warren Jeffs, but Marleigh Meisner, a spokeswoman for Child Protective Services, said Sunday that investigators were still trying to determine whether the girl who called authorities last week was among them.
Many of the girls in the sect are related to one another and share similar names, Meisner said.
A busload of women were seen talking to law enforcement and a lawyer at a civic center early Sunday.
Palmer said Child Protective Services was still trying to identify the 16-year-old, and it wasn't clear if she was among those being interviewed or was even in the area.
State troopers armed with a search warrant raided the compound on Friday to look for evidence of a marriage between the girl, who allegedly had a baby at 15, and 50-year-old Dale Barlow.
Under Texas law, girls younger than 16 cannot marry, even with parental approval.
Barlow's probation officer told The Salt Lake Tribune that he was in Arizona.
"He said the authorities had called him (in Colorado City, Ariz.) and some girl had accused him of assaulting her and he didn't even know who she was," said Bill Loader, a probation officer in Arizona.
Palmer said Texas authorities have been in contact with those in Arizona but have not yet talked to Barlow. No arrests have been made.
Barlow was sentenced to jail time last year after pleading no contest to conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor. He was also ordered to register as a sex offender for three years while he is on probation.
The search warrant instructed officers to look for marriage records or other evidence linking her to the man and the baby. The warrant authorized the seizure of computer drives, CDs, DVDs or photos.
Those inside the retreat did not respond to requests for comment.
The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, headed by Jeffs after his father's death in 2002, broke away from the Mormon church after the latter disavowed polygamy more than a century ago.
The compound sits down a narrow paved road and behind a hill that shields it almost entirely from view in town. Only the 80-foot-high, white temple can be seen on the horizon. It remained lit throughout the night.
The 1,700-acre property had been an exotic game ranch, dotted with many buildings. Palmer said she couldn't say whether authorities had entered all the buildings but called it "a detailed search."
Eldorado (pronounced el-dor-AY'-do) is a two-stoplight town of fewer than 2,000 people and located nearly 200 miles northwest of San Antonio. It consists of a cluster of government buildings, a couple churches and a few blocks of houses surrounded by dusty, wind-swept land where sheep are raised and mohair is produced.
State officials said they did not know how many people lived at the retreat. Local officials estimated two years ago that about 150 people were there.
Jeffs is jailed in Kingman, Ariz., where he awaits trial for four counts each of incest and sexual conduct with a minor stemming from two arranged marriages between teenage girls and their older male relatives.
In November, he was sentenced to two consecutive sentences of five years to life in prison in Utah for being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl who wed her cousin in an arranged marriage in 2001.
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Wed, April 16, 2008 - 12:29 PMWaco is a phonetic spelling of the Spanish word "hueco" which means "empty". -
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 6:38 AMAnd of course there's got to be some nutjob fundies out there to defend the FLDS from what they call the "Texas Police State." spirituallibertarian.blogspot.com/2...ml
I've found something more annoying than a fundie... a fundie libertarian. According to this moron, Jeebus was a big fan of social darwinism, and the first amendment covers raping young girls as religious freedom. This guy's blog makes me want to reach through the internet wires and strangle him! -
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Fri, April 18, 2008 - 8:59 PMYes, I have noticed since Ron Paul that Fundie Libertarians have been coming out of the woodwork, or maybe from underneath the rocks they were under. The strange thing is, it seems to me that Christianity and Capitalism are direct opposites. Wasn't Jesus a socialist? -
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Sat, April 19, 2008 - 8:35 AMYou would _think_ that Christianity and Capitalism are opposed, but in many of the Christians I've seen, fundies, -oids, and otherwise, capitalism seems practically endorsed by their religion. It's given enough prominence it's practically the 11th Commandment. -
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 12:56 PM<You would _think_ that Christianity and Capitalism are opposed, but in many of the Christians I've seen, fundies, -oids, and otherwise, capitalism seems practically endorsed by their religion. It's given enough prominence it's practically the 11th Commandment.>
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Sat, April 19, 2008 - 7:37 PMThe Xtian Faith is Guilty of MUCH wrongdoing.
From the Crusades to the Tainted Kool Aide of Jim Jones(they were "Christians")
To the disgusting sexual abuse by Catholic Priest's and Cults like this latest "Xtian Sect" of Child Brides Polygamy and Old Men sexually abusing 14 yr old Girls all in the Name of Their Christian God.
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 9:08 PM>>>"IF I WAS a Christian" I would hang my head in SHAME over my chosen Faith!<<<
If I thought these people represented anything that I would consider valid Christianity, I would certainly hang my head in shame. As it is, I can only hope not to be confused with these morons simply because they have stolen the name of Christian to which they are in no way entitled from my admittedly biased viewpoint.
With love under will,
Bob, Adastra,
The Wizzard of Jacksonville
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 12:54 PM<Yes, I have noticed since Ron Paul that Fundie Libertarians have been coming out of the woodwork, or maybe from underneath the rocks they were under. The strange thing is, it seems to me that Christianity and Capitalism are direct opposites. Wasn't Jesus a socialist?>
Jesus, assuming that he lived at all, (which I find highly doubtful,) has been dead for at least 2000 years. That makes Jesus the world's most popular ventriloquist dummy.
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 12:30 AMAh-HAH!!! _This_ must be where those rightie wackjobs on the Politics tribe are getting their bogus info that some bozo had "not been in Tex-ASS in 25 years" and "had never been married to a 15-yr.-old." -
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Sun, April 20, 2008 - 8:15 PMIrrespective of their religious beliefs and whatever rights they presume they have to practice their beliefs...they broke the law, bottom line They admit to breaking the law regarding the legal age of consent and marriage in Texas (which is, I believe, sixteen) and to committing polygamy. And their taxes are probably a hopeless tangle. Their attitudes toward their girls and women, though I find it personally deplorable, *may* not fall under the description of "abuse" (gotta be careful here - no one has the whole story and I'm sure some "husbands" were more malevolent than others, and the term "abuse" in a legal context is totally open to interpretation...then again...is brainwashing abuse? Wait....don't we ALL get that to one extent or another? Okay, back on track) and, if it is not found to be "abuse" by the court of law, then they have technically done no wrong. If they had just followed their faith within the bounds of the law they'd still have their kids.
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 6:53 AMI've been following this case for a week now - it's 416 kids all in temporary state custody - the judge ordered DNA tests for them to sort out parental connections. According to the local news this morning, some of the 60 odd men from the compound may not show up for it because they have outstanding warrants for rape, incest, or child abuse.
www.kvue.com/news/state/...5a79b7e.html
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Mon, April 21, 2008 - 9:49 AMI hope so too.
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 9:55 AM"According to the local news this morning, some of the 60 odd men from the compound may not show up for it because they have outstanding warrants for rape, incest, or child abuse. "
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 3:40 PM<Nice. Sounds like FLDS isn't too discriminating about who they'll take in.>
From what I understand, membership is hereditary and they do not take in many converts. The FLDS has gotten into major trouble in Utah, Colorado, Arizona, California, and New Mexico due to its bizarre and illegal mating habits. The 60 men who are on the lam are on the lam because they were busted as FLDS members.
Maybe the FBI will finally get involved and close these wacko's down once and for all. True, that would be doing the main stream Mormons a favor, but you have to take the good with the bad in this life.
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Mon, April 21, 2008 - 5:01 PMIt's not about who they take in but that their religion insists that their actions aren't rape or abuse because it's all endorsed by their religion. The FLDS is a church that creates rapists and abusers by its teachings.
These people are convinced that the only real crime that's been committed here is the government stepping in to rob families of their children and interfere with their religious beliefs. They don't GIVE a shit about the welfare of their women and children. -
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 1:18 PMWhat gets me are the wackjobs protesting the FLDS bust. They were on the news this morning talking about the crimes against FLDS kids by . . . get this . . . the state of TX CPS. WHAT?? Seriously - sub NAMBLA for FLDS and 13yr old boys for girls - I guarantee you wouldn't hear a peep of sympathy then. Somehow hiding child abuse behind a veil of Christiandom (one flavor, anyway) and it becomes a legitimate practice. I just cannot fathom that mindset. -
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 7:48 PMUGH!
NAMBLA! They are the Cancerous SORE on the face of our Good Gay Community!
Pedophilia is Hideous and UGLY wether old gay Men are engaging in it or old Straight Men who call themselves "FDLS'er's. -
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Re: What Does Waco Stand For?
Sat, April 26, 2008 - 6:10 AMThat's pretty much my point. The only difference I see between the two is the method of justification. Eesh.
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