Magic trick costs teacher job
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Substitute teacher Jim Piculas does a 30-second magic trick where a toothpick disappears then reappears.
But after performing it in front of a classroom at Rushe Middle School in Land 'O Lakes, Piculas said his job did a disappearing act of its own.
"I get a call the middle of the day from head of supervisor of substitute teachers. He says, 'Jim, we have a huge issue, you can't take any more assignments you need to come in right away,'" he said.
When Piculas went in,he learned his little magic trick cast a spell and went much farther than he'd hoped.
"I said, 'Well Pat, can you explain this to me?' 'You've been accused of wizardry,' [he said]. Wizardry?" he asked.
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Substitute teacher Jim Piculas does a 30-second magic trick where a toothpick disappears then reappears.
But after performing it in front of a classroom at Rushe Middle School in Land 'O Lakes, Piculas said his job did a disappearing act of its own.
"I get a call the middle of the day from head of supervisor of substitute teachers. He says, 'Jim, we have a huge issue, you can't take any more assignments you need to come in right away,'" he said.
When Piculas went in,he learned his little magic trick cast a spell and went much farther than he'd hoped.
"I said, 'Well Pat, can you explain this to me?' 'You've been accused of wizardry,' [he said]. Wizardry?" he asked.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 12:20 PMFlorida.......
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:02 PMWell, don't look at me; I didn't do it.
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Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:37 PMLand 'O Lakes?
Isn't that a Margarine? -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 6:42 PMI much prefer "I Can't believe It's Not Butter" ...Myself!
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:20 PMLand O' Lakes is the real deal; butter, not margarine.
Don't mind me. I hate all "edible food-like substances" with equal contempt. -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 7:33 PMButter or margarine, what happened to this poor teacher was nothing more than a smear job by fundie wackjobs. -
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 8:35 PMNo kidding.
I love how they're claiming that wizardy isn't the "only" thing he's being dismissed over. If there were any truth to that at all, they would have used those reasons without ever mentioning any claims of wizardry.
The sad thing is, we need something this ridiculous to happen to someone with the power--and the impetus--to knock some common sense into the asshats allowing it to go on.
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 1:51 PM"wizardry"
LMAO!!!!
I heard about this story on Olbermann...
I can't fucking believe it!!
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 7:54 PMSo far as I'm aware, there is no law against "wizardry", whatever the hell that might be. And as a wizzard, I think I know how dangerous it is to public safety and morals--i.e. not at all. Not while I'm doing it anyway.
At least, I'm not likely to be fired by Blockbuster for the "crime" of wizardry. Being an international corporation, they have more immediate concerns than wizzards on staff. LOL.
With love under will,
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 6:03 AM>>>>>At least, I'm not likely to be fired by Blockbuster for the "crime" of wizardry. Being an international corporation, they have more immediate concerns than wizards on staff. LOL.
Unless your wizard powers entail the ability to pirate movies. FYI: Pirated of movies are mainly supplied by movie store employees. -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 8:38 AMThis is why I "work for myself"...I can't be "Fired"! -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:31 PMWish we could all work for ourselves Jake -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:00 PMtry it...you'll LIKE IT!
No Government deductions...
You make your OWN Hours...
YOUR the "Boss"....
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:55 PM<<what's NOT to Love?>>
The risk of not making sufficient money to support ourselves. We don't all have the means to go into our own business. -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 5:56 PM<we don't all have the means to go into our own business>
YES we do! all it takes is the use of our Brain for something more than "empty Religious Worship". -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 6:51 PMWich means:
LESS time kneeling in Churches and Worshipping False Gods(Like Jesus) and one would have more TIME to use that Brain for something other than Worship and anyone can come up with something better than "working like a SLAVE for a Boss". -
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Sat, May 17, 2008 - 10:54 PMYou know what, Jake? I am really sick of your anti-religion posts. You claim to differentiate between Christians and adherents of other faiths, and between Christianoids and other Christians, but in reality your posts are _always_ a sweeping condemnation of believers of any faith, and I'm sick to fucking death of reading about it.
I know enough about your history to understand where it comes from, but really, I'm just fucking tired of the blanket hatred.
I wish you'd take a step back and look at yourself, making these contemptuous posts time and again. There's no need or reason to always turn every subject into spitting on people for deigning to have faith, but you do it Every. Fucking. Time.
And you know one little detail that is required for owning your own business? Money. Start up capital. Going into business for yourself is a risky venture that not everyone can afford to attempt. It's not always about goddamned religion, Jake, Christianity or otherwise. -
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 6:22 AMNimbrethil
Not all self-employment requres a large capital investment
I began "BuddyWalks" with a fifty dollar Investment. Even a Poverty-Level Person can do the same.
You know we as Non-Christians get sick of Christians extolling all the Virtues of Jesus Christ as well.
This works both ways!
I DO know too many Christians who mold their entire lives around their CHURCH and to me,this is a waste of valuable time.
Life is what WE Make it and it is NOT decided by a Faith. I don't "condemn" any believer's of a Faith,I simply point out that there ARE Alternatives to loving your Faith.. it's called "Loving LIFE". -
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:34 AMThe funny thing is, I read this story before. I've seen Criss Angel do the same trick on his show and nobody's accusing him of 'wizardry". What is wrong with these people?!
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Mon, May 19, 2008 - 11:29 AM>>>What is wrong with these people?!<<<
They have built for themselves a completely unchristian myth stating that they are God's warriors in the battle against evil, particularly against their mythical Satan. Now they have made such am enjoyable game of this role-playing trifle that they find themselves seeing enemies everywhere. This religiously induced paranoia has made them insane and results in hideously irrational behavior. Jake is right, they're nuts. My only disagreement would be if that judgment is intended to cover everyone who considers himself a Christian. We are not all insane, only the Christianoids and their madness is not of God.
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Thu, May 22, 2008 - 7:55 PMBack to the article - oh bother. And school district officials wonder why people just don't flock in to be teachers. On the bright side - at least it wasn't in Kansas. We are embarrassing enough. I just read that the "pro teaching of evolution" folks aren't running for re-election to the state board of ed here, so we might be going back to the "God done it and that's that" theory of creation. -
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Sat, May 24, 2008 - 7:18 AMMy dad was a substitute teacher for a day, and he told me it was the worse experience he ever had. The little shits do everything in their power to remind you that since you're not their teacher, they don't have to listen to you. And now they're scaring off the people who truly *want* to be teachers because of "politics".
I went to "special classes" throughout middle and high school, and many of those teachers...you got the feeling they gave up a long time ago. Most of them didn't give a shit. It was like a dark cloud was around them. I dreaded classes with those teachers. Once, we had to evacuate the entire school because of a fire in a restroom and I was overjoyed it took up two hours. Why? That hour I had one of those teachers.
Hey, it wasn't like I could skip classes. Where could I go?
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Sat, May 24, 2008 - 8:14 AMExactly Psyche
Todays teachers are merely "Babysitters" and don't really "teach" much of anything these days -
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Sun, May 25, 2008 - 12:41 PMAnd, also, it's not enough for teachers to "teach", either. With schools being what they are now...who can blame most teachers for becoming bitter?
Give you an example: I read about this teacher who told a girl to sit down. The girl attacked the teacher. One of her friends whipped out her cell phone and shot video of this poor woman having the shit beat out of her. And what did the principal do? Why, he blamed the teacher for instigating this student by telling her to sit down! I saw the footage. The teacher wasn't fighting back, yet the teacher was blamed!
Huh?
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Sun, May 25, 2008 - 5:33 PMLike I said "BABYSITTERS"!
Tell a kid to behave and they beat you up!
*happens everyday in todays Public(and Pvt) Schools!
There is NO dicipline anymore,just a bunch of out-of-control Hooligans running the classrooms as they see fit.
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Wed, May 28, 2008 - 12:13 PMI am one of those "special" teachers. I really teach, not babysit - and I resent those from the sidelines who haven't set foot in a school in 20 years think I am just bitter and resigned or that we all just go through the motions each day. Not just the comments that have filtered through here - but that swirl all around us. My city won't pass a bond issue to repair buildings because "they just paid for air conditioning 8 years ago, where did that money go?" (air conditioning, not building repair). Parents sue and stomp their feet and then sue again. The president puts out idiotic decrees like NCLB that declares all children can learn everything - regardless of IQ and then penalizes the schools and teachers who don't make the impossible happen. (What, that child has an IQ of 30? So, he has to pass the benchmark reading test at his grade level. Why? because your school has too many children with low IQs, so we are temporarly changing this student's IQ to 100 to be within NCLB guidelines.) The amount of paperwork is tremendous. Since I started 16 years ago, 10 days have been added to my contract year with no additional pay. The real "magic trick" is that any teachers stick around all. It must be all the respect and gratitude we get that keeps us going. -
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Wed, May 28, 2008 - 12:39 PM<So, he has to pass the benchmark reading test at his grade level. Why? because your school has too many children with low IQs, so we are temporarly changing this student's IQ to 100 to be within NCLB guidelines.) The amount of paperwork is tremendous. Since I started 16 years ago, 10 days have been added to my contract year with no additional pay. The real "magic trick" is that any teachers stick around all. It must be all the respect and gratitude we get that keeps us going.>
Jill,
I have been silently stewing over this thread for the last several days, and I just want to say that I am very sympathetic to your plight. It has been over 30 years since I stepped into a classroom, but even then I was seeing the shape of things to come. You are fighting a lone battle in the war on entropy. The neocons discovered the dangers of an educated public after their boy Nixon was deposed. Ever since then the American school system has been the victim of vicious PR and deliberate underfunding. The entire purpose of which is to reduce education to what it is now; useless. Believe it or not, I actually met a student from the Richmond school district (famous for having a movie about their basketball coach done recently) who had no idea what WW II was about. He had a vague idea that it involved a dude named Hitler. The forces of fascism have won. A generation has been raised who do not have the intellectual tools to stand up for themselves.
This is not your fault. This is the fault of the neocons who deliberately dismantled the American education system during the 80s. The first thing that the Reagan Administration did was to kill loans for actual colleges and increase them for diploma mills. During the Clinton 90s education was systematically under funded while our tax dollars went to "vouchers" that increased the profits of the ritzi private schools. Now today our schools don't have the budget to do their jobs, Bush has diverted millions in the education budget to private companies that do these standardized tests without giving you the budget to get your kids ready for them.
Then when things inevitably fail, you get the blame rather than the people who actually deserve the blame; the taxpayers for falling for the neocon bullshit. You are the victim of self-fulfilling prophecy and I respect you for continuing to do an impossible job.
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Sun, June 1, 2008 - 1:19 PMI apologize, Jill, if I came across as not knowing what I'm talking about. I graduated from high school in 2002, so my experiences are a little more recent that Jake's are.
I've lived in Southeast Florida all my life. Apparently, at some point during my middle school years, somebody wrongly assumed that because I wasn't fitting in with the herd mentality and wasn't too good in math that I must have a learning disability. As a result, I got stuck in with classes with kids who were too good for juvenile hall but too bad for "regular" classes. Don't get me wrong, there were a handful of teachers I had classes with that I liked and seemed to like teaching but most of them seemed almost...beaten down.
I don't know where you're teaching from, but where I live there is something called the Florida Comprehensive Academic Test (FCAT). It's a test that all seventh and eleventh graders are forced to take. And not because it means anything, either. It's to determine what schools get the grant money. Anything below an "B" means no money. So they force these poor children to cram years in advance, and all for a piece of the pie.
If anything, I'm suprized you have lasted as long as you have.
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Fri, June 6, 2008 - 8:35 AMJill
It is not the fault of our Teachers that they are forced into the role of "Babysitter" as Bill pointed out,it's the system,but it is also Societies fault as well.
I attended Grade School in the Early 1960's (K-6th) Back then Societies Roles bettween elder and child were vastly different than the role is today. Children were taught to RESPECT their elders even if that adult was not their own Parent,Children didn't attend School to 'be a disrespectful kid' we were there to LEARN and Study and we were diciplined if that was not our intent for being at School. Our Teacher's back then were dedicated Professionals and there were rules set in place to assure that their task of teaching was although a challenge at times of course,was an obtainable goal for almost every Child. We didn't "act up" in class becuase we FEARED the aftermath of such actions becuase there were STRICT Rules that applied to our behavior while in School.
Back then If I so much as "flipped my Teacher the Bird" not ONLY would I have been Suspended for that rude act toward my Teacher,I'd also have to suffer the consequences at HOME for doing that as well.
Kids of today are vastly different,there is almost NO respect taught at home,so these kids act like a bunch of wild animals at School,many of these kids are from one-Parent homes,or are "latchkey Kids" whose parents are so biusy they never had the time to teach these kids HOW to behave properly or show respect to an adult. So these kids end up in YOUR Classroom,and due to a combination of no taught self respect,and the inability of dicipline allowed by you the Teacher per your School's Rules,places these Kids in your Class as little more than "Out-of-Control Older Babies needing a sitter" while seated in your Classroom.
Teaching kids today is one of the worst "Jobs" Imaginable, my heart goes out to ALL of you who are in this position.
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Sun, May 25, 2008 - 6:02 PMJake,
Hate to break it to you, but, um, no. For a great many people in poverty, there simply isn't $5 to spare, much less $50. I know folks for whom taking a few dollars from the bank means that a bill won't get paid that month, or they'll go without eating for a day or two. Especially in this present time of soaring prices, $50 is a HUGE amont of money for a lot of people's budget. And even if you could scrape together funds or a large investment wasn't necessary, there's still the risk factor. You won't always know if the venture will provide enough money to provide for yourself, or your family. For a lot of people, the (oftentimes relative) safety of being a wage-slave provides financial security (again relative) that the alternative just can't offer.
You successfully went into business for yourself, great. But don't assume that Americans everywhere could just quit their jobs tomorrow and NOT expect to be living in the streets a few months from now.
No, you _don't_ "simply" point out anything. You are _extremely_ prone to hate-spewing when it comes to Christians. And, as I keep saying, you don't limit it to the Christianoid idiots, which is where I have a problem. It's practically an obsession with you. Take this, for example.
It isn't up to you to decide what is and is not a waste of time for someone else. If someone wants to revolve their whole life around their faith, that's their business, and you condemning them for it is just as wrong as them trying to force it on you. Life is what the INDIVIDUAL makes it, yes, and whether you like it or not, Jake, for a lot of people, faith is _exactly_ what it's all about. That's not ignoring life, that's deciding that faith is the most important part of life. And there's NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT! As usual, this is why you irritate the fuck out of me. You take it WELL beyond bitching at fundies for trying to control your life. Your very attitude makes it clear what you think about ANYONE who gives religious faith a prominent position in their worldview. -
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Sun, May 25, 2008 - 8:14 PMYour right about one aspect here Nimbrethil
I do in fact find people 100% wrapped up in their Faith and running their lives by it "weak" individuals who cannot stand on their own without "leaning on their Faith Belief".
Humans were placed on this Planet to do FOR themselves and not rely on anyone or anything(like a "Faith" for example) to do it for them. We were given a Brain and the opportunity to use it to become succesful on our OWN without help from any promised False Faiths. The Churches(all of them) not just Christian have been "Cashing-In" on this weak populous for Millenia with their False Faiths and restrictions,rules and the way the Faith "controls" each of it's worshippers to do as I SAY or be Dammed.
Just becuase I choose to be stronger than any Faith Belief and make myself into something good without ANY belief in any False Gods perpetrated by these Faith Beliefs,I am being told I'm Unclean,a Sinner an Abomination in the eyes of God(ONLY in your Xtian God of your Bible). Like it or not we Humans can be "Spiritual" WITHOUT practicing any currently practiced Faith Belief,and we can do for ourselves 100% without all these False Gods made up to suit each of these Faith Beliefs. Letting a Faith RUN your life is not too unlike letting Alcohol or Drugs run it for you,it is an unessesary "Dependancy". You,like most Christians cannot understand HOW a person can LIVE at all without God and Jesus. It's Easy,you live your life for yourself and not for your Faith. -
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 4:59 AM<<Just becuase I choose to be stronger than any Faith Belief >>
Jake - you know I like you heaps.. but that statement is a value driven one where you are judging all others with a Faith belief to be weak.. that's the sort of blanket statement the Fundiest which you despise make .. don't do what you hate bro !
<<I am being told I'm Unclean,a Sinner an Abomination in the eyes of God(ONLY in your Xtian God of your Bible). >>
Just because I call you short, tall, a dickhead, a good bloke or whatever don't make it so. The only thing which matters is the "facts" and how you feel about yourself.. Who cares what they say about you on a personal level ? Any statement like the above says heaps more about the person making it and nothing about you.. It is only if they try to mess with the law and infringe on your rights to live your life as you see fit that we should give a shit about what anyone says about you.
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 6:16 AMThats my point with Christians Bloke
They DO in Fact "mess with the laws" and they ARE "infringing on my rights to be "Morally different". Since the last eight years GW Bush has been in Office he has partnered with the Southern Baptist Christians(the "Fundies") and attempted to make "Christian Values" THE Value system in America
and that is WRONG becuase there are at least 600 Faiths being practiced in this Country and NO single "Moral System" should be made into Law from any of them.
As far as my belief that relying on a Faith to mold your life for you is a sign of weakness,remember that this is my opinion and just like a Christian Fundie I am entiled to that,UNLIKE a Christian Fundy I do NOT try to make "My Belief" the Moral LAW for an entire Country. -
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 6:49 AMNot all Christians are like that.. The Anglicans here have openly gay clergy and they are talking about making one of them a Bishop... if they tried to "mess with the law" it would probably be to allow you and your bloke to marry.. but not all Anglicans hold those liberal beliefs.. like anything - there is diversity..
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 7:37 AMNo, your right Bloke not "all" Christians,but here in America we have a particularly bad sect of Christians,namely the Gerry Fallwells,The James Dobson types of Focus on the FAMILY(and fuck everyone else!).These indiviuals have worked HARD under GW Bush to gain a foothold in U.S. National Politics and Change Our Constitution to reflect their "Good Christian Family Values" Moral code . We are "one Nation under GOD" not "One Nation Under Christian Biblical law" this is Wrong...PERIOD! becuase not every person in America is Christian "Your Good christian Moral Code" isn't "ours" and should NOT be made the "Universal Moral Code" in America.
Of course there are Pastors in Christian Churches who support same-sex "Marriages". But these individuals are NOT the bulk of Mainstream Christianity and have come under FIRE in recent years. Ministers have lost their ordainment and had their Churches either Burned down or shut down here in America for supporting Gay People. It is NOT as universally accepted as one might think. -
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 9:35 AM<<It is NOT as universally accepted as one might think. >>
For sure.. (and I just happened to come across a pic before which I put in the album for Peter to admire.. :) -
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 10:33 AMBloke,
I don't get it. Just because a woman buys her underwear at Fredricks of Hollywood doesn't mean she's not a Christian. In any case, she's just a drawing ;) LOL!
Peace,
Peter
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 10:51 AM>>>The Churches(all of them) not just Christian have been "Cashing-In" on this weak populous for Millenia with their False Faiths and restrictions,rules and the way the Faith "controls" each of it's worshippers to do as I SAY or be Dammed.<<<
Precisely why I stay the HELL out of churches, except as a tourist to admire the architecture of places like Le Cathedral de Notre Dame de Paris.
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Mon, May 26, 2008 - 8:09 PMChurches just creep me out,wich is why I avoid them.
Unlike an untrained parishoner... I KNOW what "goes on" inside those Churches
The Politics from the Pulpit Bullshit,The Hellfire and Brimstone Biblical Babble Nonesense,the Mind Control,the Moneymaking("Bilking?")... those are all things a Grounded Person can "do without".
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