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I've noticed that some people here that are very, very angry. I get frustrated at this subject myself. Feel like I'm banging my head against the wall. But I'm not naturally a pissed-off person. It takes a bit to rile me up.
My brother is like that, mad- pissed off. Almost all the time. Whenever he encounters another person who is not of his religious and political persuasion, ( atheist, democrat) he's pretty much just mean to them ( if they talk, lol) . It must suck. For them, and him, to be mad all the time, bitching and fussing about this or that political or religious happening. Mom has had to forbid him to discuss these subjects at out increasingly infrequent family gatherings. His tirades make her cry.
He has an IQ FAR above average, never wasted a minute on drugs and alcohol, he isn't lazy or foolish or crazy - yet he doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, and never has.
I'm nowhere near as smart as him, spent 25 years doing every sort of drug known to man in every way possible, even spent years on the street, sleeping outside. Yet today we are both in the same situation, a few hundred dollars from the curb. He's pissed off about it, of course. Me? Sure, I wish I had done things differently- who doesn't? I have my concerns. I've had all kinds of shit happen to me in the past. But I'm not angry.
I wonder if being pissed off all the time could have influenced the outcome of his life? All our lives? Anyways, he'll have a heart attack before me, or at least at the same time ( he's 10 years older) bc his self-induced stress level prolly equalls my years of self-abuse.
Pardon me while I go jerk off and then smoke a cigarrette.
OK, you got me, I don't smoke cigs, lol
You fuckers have a great day!
My brother is like that, mad- pissed off. Almost all the time. Whenever he encounters another person who is not of his religious and political persuasion, ( atheist, democrat) he's pretty much just mean to them ( if they talk, lol) . It must suck. For them, and him, to be mad all the time, bitching and fussing about this or that political or religious happening. Mom has had to forbid him to discuss these subjects at out increasingly infrequent family gatherings. His tirades make her cry.
He has an IQ FAR above average, never wasted a minute on drugs and alcohol, he isn't lazy or foolish or crazy - yet he doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, and never has.
I'm nowhere near as smart as him, spent 25 years doing every sort of drug known to man in every way possible, even spent years on the street, sleeping outside. Yet today we are both in the same situation, a few hundred dollars from the curb. He's pissed off about it, of course. Me? Sure, I wish I had done things differently- who doesn't? I have my concerns. I've had all kinds of shit happen to me in the past. But I'm not angry.
I wonder if being pissed off all the time could have influenced the outcome of his life? All our lives? Anyways, he'll have a heart attack before me, or at least at the same time ( he's 10 years older) bc his self-induced stress level prolly equalls my years of self-abuse.
Pardon me while I go jerk off and then smoke a cigarrette.
OK, you got me, I don't smoke cigs, lol
You fuckers have a great day!
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Re: Anger
Wed, October 14, 2009 - 5:19 PMMy brother suffers from intermittant explosive disorder so I know all too well how those anger issues go. But I fail to see the anger of which you speak. Personally I find it impossible to psychoanalyze people from words on a computer screen. It is kind of like the video Hummingbird shared with us where you are asked to guess what is in a cube in a room. To make a positive assertion about that which you can not possibly know is logically flawed. Also, to make such an assertion brings with it the burden of proof. I'm curious, who is angry? Who is melancholy? Who is happy? Who is content? Who is thrilled? Who is sad? Since you have this uncanny ability to psychoanalyze via syntax, context and font, this should prove to be really cool.
Do you make psychic predictions too? Because I'm thinking LOTTERY!!!Ha!Ha! -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 5:27 AMAh, well, maybe I'm just reading too much from things.
I'm far from psychic, lol. I wouldn't have lost $15 on keno the other night. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 9:53 AMLike any emotion anger can become a problem, but I take issue with how anger has been singled out as being a legal or moral issue. In and of itself anger is a normal and healthy reaction to a given situation. Anger tells us that we have had enough and the key is to channel that anger to change a situation. I disagree with attempts to label anger itself as a pathology or as a legal issue. I would be royally pissed if some judge orderd me to "anger management" class. Actions should be subject to legal consequences of course, but to say anger itself is wrong becomes a means of social control. People have a right to their anger and should not hesitate to freely admit that they are angry. I celebrate my ability to become angry about some issues. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:20 AMabcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story
"A new study from Carnegie Mellon University shows anger may help people reduce the negative impact of stress.
"Here getting emotional is not bad for you if you look at the case of anger," said Jennifer Lerner of Carnegie Mellon. "The more they are displaying anger, the lower the stress responses."
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Re: Anger
Thu, October 15, 2009 - 2:44 PMThanos
<<< I wouldn't have lost $15 on keno the other night. >>>
I wish they had it here in Texas because I love to play!
Hummingbird
<<<People have a right to their anger and should not hesitate to freely admit that they are angry. I celebrate my ability to become angry about some issues. >>>
I totally agree. Sometimes my patience wear thin, but if I am doing something for recreation as I do here on tribe and it is a source of anger, I will distance myself from it because I do not enjoy being angry and I have too many other hobbies that are stress free. You saw Jason make me angry in HD as he continued to insult me with his hateful rhetoric and I lit his ass up and moved on. I cant see going through life as an angry person. I am a joker most of the time and I am generally happy even though I have some aggrivating problems. I met with my lawyer today and got on his ass so bad he called his office manager in because he thought I was about to whip his ass. I got my point across and I am quite sure this problem will not arise again.Ha!Ha! But allowing things to make me stew and grind my teeth all day, that is just not me. In THIS tribe the incredulousness of some of the issues discussed are far too funny to make me angry. When someone trolls my posts I will give them fair warning and if it continues I will turn my words into weapons, but even when I am flogging a troll, I am not angry. If I get pissed I sure dont mind telling that person I am pissed. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 5:10 PM
There's a huge difference between a short-burst of healthy anger and pathological anger. In some cases, sustained anger increases the fight or flight response to perceived danger and raises blood pressure, constricts arteries and veins and releases the stress hormone cortisol, which over time can literally corrode the arteries and veins, not to mention that anger often causes people to withdraw from the angry individual. due to the higher potential for violence, confused thinking, et. al... There's a cascade of well-documented unhealthy events that occur in the body during periods of pathological anger.
As in some of these discussions, there are many shades of gray that seem to be overlooked. Nevertheless, for the most part, anger is not usually considered a healthy response nor is it stress-reducing, except in the most unusual of cases. In fact, quite the oposite is true.
Did u know that anger makes u fat? The more anger and stress evidenced in an individual, the more cortisol is released from the brain. We crave and eat far too many carbs to help counteract the anger and stress induced cortisol streaming through the bloodstream. The carbs tend to raise serotonin levels which begin to remove and counteract the cortisol. So again, in most cases, anger is not at all healthy... although as I indicated earlier - there's a significant difference between a short bout of anger and pathological anger. :)(:
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:19 PMDavid
<<<Did u know that anger makes u fat? The more anger and stress evidenced in an individual, the more cortisol is released from the brain. We crave and eat far too many carbs to help counteract the anger and stress induced cortisol streaming through the bloodstream. The carbs tend to raise serotonin levels which begin to remove and counteract the cortisol. So again, in most cases, anger is not at all healthy... although as I indicated earlier - there's a significant difference between a short bout of anger and pathological anger. :)(: >>>
This is very true! I have lived long enough to see other bad things happen as a result of chronic red ass too. Stroke being the leader of those maladies. I have seen more men who have lived their lives being impossible abusive angry assholes have paralyzing strokes than any other personality type. -
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:27 PMThen the key is to try to channel the energy of your anger to change the situation. Feeling powerless over a situation can make you even more angry. Infact that is why I object to certain programs (12 step groups) that tell people they must accept they are powerless. That is the exact opposite of what people should be told. In fact the key to dealing with problems (like addictions) is to realize that you do have power.
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 7:50 PMYeah, I know what you mean. I had to do anger management before they let me out of prison. That sure pissed me off, lol. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 7:54 PMYou know, I think a generally pissed off person like my brother, and a person who goes into a rage occasionally are two different things. Both bad, but certainly different. Also, the person who flips out while drunk is different from both. People do crazy shit when drunk and stoned they would never normally do. Don't try to use that as an excuse in court though- you'll get anger management in addition to your sentence, heeyuk.
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:31 PMThanos
<<<Yeah, I know what you mean. I had to do anger management before they let me out of prison. That sure pissed me off, lol >>>
I would be upset to be forced into some program like that too. I'll tell you, what you presented in the other post really pisses me off. But I feel the emotion and then I realize I cant carry that baggage and effect positive change at the same time, so I vent and move on.
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Re: Anger
Sat, October 17, 2009 - 1:04 PMThis reminds me of something I read recently about a study regarding stress levels and luckiness.
www.neatorama.com/2008/12/2...-the-luck/
It's actually pretty interesting. I worry that people try to turn this sort of stuff into a new age hippy religion, but it's not a bad way to try to live. relax, try to enjoy yourself, and see if your luck seems to improve.
The sentence that seems to sum it up best is this: "Unlucky people are generally more tense than lucky people, and this anxiety disrupts their ability to notice the unexpected. "
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Sat, October 17, 2009 - 4:29 PM
<<<The sentence that seems to sum it up best is this: "Unlucky people are generally more tense than lucky people, and this anxiety disrupts their ability to notice the unexpected. " >>>>>
I'm definitely going to remember this study the next time we are in a casino..... maybe those crazy random jackpots are just a result of a lack of stress! :)(: I wonder if this strategy works if u take a long deep breath, Valium or Xanax before u start gambling? :)(:
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