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Fred Phelps Fire

Goat — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 01:44:22 GMT

Every time a church burns, a demon gets his wings

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Tennesse shooter kills because of church's liberal views

Project_Mayhem — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:14:27 GMT

Knoxville, Tenn. police has released a statement that a letter in the car of church shooter Jim D. Adkisson reveals that he targeted the congregation due to its liberal views on civil liberties and women’s and gay rights. Adkisson killed two people at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in the middle of a children’s performance.

Chief Sterling Owen IV said Adkisson had a “stated hatred of the liberal movement.” He is now charged with first-degree murder. Among the complaints against the church was its founding of a chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union.

The children were performing “Annie” when Adkisson decided to kill people in the name of the true faith. According to reports, Greg McKendry, a 60-year-old usher and board member at the church, blocked the killer and was his first victim, click here.

It is simply astonishing that even a demented killer would think that God would want him to mow down Christians who are not sufficiently conservative, including children. Some reports indicate that he had problems with Christians in general, click here. It takes a lot of hate to walk into a scene of children performing in a religious sanctuary and turn it into a place of massacre. Of course, as with the Virginia Tech massacre, the story also reveals the best of humanity in those adults who confronted his man at the risk of their own lives. Had he not been restrained by church members, the death toll might have been much greater.

Ironically, the ACLU and these church members would likely be the first to defend Adkisson’s rights as he faces a potential death penalty for his alleged crimes.

full story:

http://jonathanturley.org/2008/07/28/getting-right-with-god-church-shooter-allegedly-targeted-knoxville-church-due-to-its-liberal-views/

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Another Holy Hypocrite Charged with Murder

Wizzard — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 02:15:22 GMT

I read about this story earlier today in an email from a news service. If I remember correctly, the preacher's name Anthony Hopkins. presuably no relation to the actor. He had been abusing his children for years and when his wife discovered the abuse and threatened to expose him, Hopkins murdered her, stored her body in the freezer for three or four years and began working as an itenerant preacher while continuing the abuse. Eventually his oldest daughter escaped and informed the police, who discovered the wife's body in the freezer. The incredible part of this whole bizarre tale is that when the police went to arrest him, they found Hopkins in church preaching; they decided to wait until the service was over before taking the murderer into custody. Why they would wait is a mystery, my suspicion is that it very likely was from a misplaced sense of respect for the ministry or for the church or even for God. Why this man should benefit at all from such phony sentiments is beyond my understanding.

Had I been leading the police detail, I would happily have marched into the church, stormed the pulpit and removed this cancer from the sanctuary. I would have been pleased to announce, "Pastor Hopkins, you are under arrest on charges of pedophilia and for the murder of your wife. Turn around and place your hands behind you. You have the right to remain silent. . ." In my admittedly biased opinion, that is all the respect this degenerate deserves.

Below is the abbreviated version of the story that I found through googling later today.

>>>MOBILE, Ala. (AP) - A judge in Alabama has denied bond for a part-time evangelist who's charged with murder in the death of his wife.

The body of the victim, a mother of 8, was found in a freezer where it had been kept for at least three years. Authorities believe she was killed in 2004.

The evangelist, Anthony Hopkins, returned to jail after a brief court appearance today. He's the father of his wife's six youngest children.

He's also charged with sex crimes in what authorities say is a related case involving a female relative who's pregnant with his baby.

Investigators believe his wife, Arletha Hopkins, was killed when she discovered the sexual abuse.

His wife's disappearance was never reported to police. Hopkins had told her relatives that she was unavailable or that she didn't want any contact with them.<<<

With love under will,

Bob, Adastra,
The Wizzard of Jacksonville

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Check it out

jims713 — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:05:48 GMT

Found this link on another forum and thought some of you might find it interesting, or repulsive. I have to say their location of Huntington, CT is about a mile north of my house. I even lived in Huntington for a period of time. Even though I have been all over the town I have never noticed any indication of this organization's existence.They must run it out of the guy's cellar. I think it is telling that virtually even page accessible by non-members has a pitch for donations. You can become a member and get full access in just minutes. Just $50.00 for a 3 month trial, and then $130 per year if you want to stay.

http://www.igroops.com/members/sbm

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I Saw This and Thought of Jake

Bill_Dunlap — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:57:09 GMT

Enjoy

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/34168

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The Other Bible.....

Project_Mayhem — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:27:39 GMT

this may be one for Krampus to answer. My question is this.

Why did the Church leave out the Gnostic gospels etc. and leave in the others?

How was this decision made?

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Alabama and fundie hypocrisy exposed!

David ♥ Air — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:33:30 GMT

<from avn.com>

Alabama's Anti-Gay Attorney General Caught in Bed with Male Aide
AG Troy King opposed sale of 'obscene devices'
By: Mark Kernes

Posted: 07/13/2008

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - Okay; who said the following?

"The existence of the Gay-Lesbian Alliance on this campus is an affront to the state of Alabama, its citizenry, this university and its students."

"Currently, AIDS is the most behavior-oriented disease known to mankind. If this nation's current purveyors of perversion would refrain from committing sodomy, they would unquestioningly be spared the ravages of the disease."

"It is indeed sad that America has fallen to the point where she will condone any type of deviant, immoral activity in which a group desires to participate."

"I often hear the argument that homosexuals who live together create a loving, caring family environment, perhaps an environment which is even superior to that which can be provided by a heterosexual couple. In this day of rampant decadence, many homosexuals would mislead society into believing that three men, an armadillo and a house plant create a functional family."

If you guessed "Troy King, Attorney General of Alabama," give yourself a cigar!

That would be the same Troy King who, within the last couple of weeks - no exact date available - was caught by his wife Paige in bed with a male aide - in fact, a former "Homecoming King" from King's undergraduate days at Troy University - and subsequently thrown out of the couple's house.

Of course, King is best known to AVN readers as the current defendant in retailer Sherri Williams' fight to legalize the sale of "obscene devices" - adult novelties whose purpose is sexual stimulation - in the Eleventh Circuit (Alabama, Georgia, Florida), which case has been before a trial court three times, the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals twice, and was recently rejected for certiorari by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Williams' case will also be the subject of a segment on ABC's "20/20" this Friday night.

"I don't know Troy King any more than having sat across the table from him during appeals hearings," Williams told AVN today. "But in my experience, it's the guys that are the guiltiest that prosecute the hardest."

The 40-year-old King, according to his Wikipedia entry, has three children, is a practicing Baptist, is anti-abortion - he once decried "the terrible 'cleansing' of the wombs that is carried on in the butcher shops we call abortion clinics" - attended the University of Alabama Law School and has been involved in several scandals while serving as Alabama's Attorney General, a job he obtained after his predecessor, Bill Pryor, was elevated to the Eleventh Circuit bench by President Bush in a recess appointment.

But while rumors that Gov. Bob Riley will ask for King's resignation in the wake of the bedroom discovery are unconfirmed, the announcement that King was named to be state campaign chairman of presidential candidate John McCain's Leadership Team in Alabama has been removed from McCain's Website, and King's hopes to succeed Riley as governor in 2010 appear to be over as well.

After all, as someone reportedly advised Lyndon Johnson as he was beginning his first term as U.S. Senator from Texas, "Once elected, a politician can stay in office until they are caught in bed with a dead prostitute or a live boy."

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Nobody Has Ever Gone Broke Telling Them What They Want to Hear

Bill_Dunlap — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:39:49 GMT

http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2008/07/16/Megachurch-Preacher-Joel-Osteen/#page1

The Fundies, being at least 25 years behind the curve, have finally found the New Age.

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Is this statement true?

MickD — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:50:20 GMT

http://nogod.tribe.net/photos/8fc5e4ea-8bcf-4e65-97f1-43e71ac01e01

Is this a fair analogy?

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Priest Off!

Poster_Boy — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:13:43 GMT

Finally, something that will separate the men from the boys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGZSvdSsoAE

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Fundie hypocrites (redux)

David ♥ Air — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:27:45 GMT

<from the Banana Guide>

Gay man sues over anti-gay bible verses

Two Christian publishers are being sued by a gay man who claims they altered Bible verses to depict homosexuality as sinful. The man, author Bradley Fowler, is asking for $60 million in damages from Zondervan Corp. and $10 million from Thomas Nelson Publishing for malice, negligence and violation of his civil rights.

Fowler filed suit in Michigan on July 7, saying Zondervan Corp. was trying to persuade its readers that “homosexuals would not inherit the kingdom of God.” He filed suit earlier in June against publisher Thomas Nelson over its New King James Bible for similar homophobic text.

Fowler said he was “flabbergast(ed) to find out this Christian publisher had imposed its own opinions upon religious sectors, by fraudulently implementing the terminology 'homosexual' to its Bible.”

Zondervan Corp. countered by saying it relies “on the scholarly judgment of the highly respected and credible translation committees behind each translation and never alter the text of the translations we are licensed to publish… We only publish credible translations produced by credible Biblical scholars.”

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Cheap Gas & church

Project_Mayhem — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:13:02 GMT

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/story.html?id=aa97cc37-34ee-4f37-befa-0f11932a9086

In Mesquite, Texas, thieves drained $100 worth of gasoline from buses used by the Higher Ground Church day-care center and have hit four or five other church center fleets in the area.

"It was someone who was desperate," said James Green, the church's pastor. "All he had to do was come and ask us and we would have bought him a tank of gas."

The American Red Cross, meanwhile, is running a summer raffle where blood donors are eligible to win a year's supply of fuel.

At St. Ann's Parish in West Bridgewater, Massachusetts, the Rev. Edward McDonagh has decided to institute a drawing for a $50 gasoline card at weekly mass.

The drawings are symbolic gestures and not intended to boost attendance, he said.

"When Jesus was at the wedding feast of Cana, the groom ran out of wine, he produced the wine for them," he said. "In that spirit, we feel that this might be comparable."

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See how many you can answer

Abe — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:13:54 GMT

I wish I could read the below and not know that anything was wrong, but alas my knowledge of these mystic book is too strong
See how many statements you can correct just by pure knowledge of the "Wholly Sculptures"

1. In the first book of the bible, Guinessis. God got tired of creating the world so he took the sabbath off.

2. Adam and Eve were created from an Apple tree. Noah’s wife was called Joan of Ark. Noah built an ark and the animals came on in pears.

3. Lots wife was a pillar of salt during the day, but a ball of fire during the night.

4. The jews were a proud people and throughout history they had trouble with unsympathetic Genitals.

5. Samson slayed the Philistines with the axe of the Apostles.

6. Sampson was a strongman who let himself be led astray by a Jezebel like Delilah.

7. Moses led the Jews to the Red sea where they made unleavened bread which is bread without any ingredients.

8. The Egyptians were all drowned in the dessert, Afterwards, Moses went up to Mount Cyanide to get the ten ammendments.

9. The first commandment was when Eve told Adam to eat the apple.

10. The seventh Aommandment is thou shalt not admit adultery.

11. Moses died before he ever reached Canada. Then Joshua led the Heb rews in the battle of Geritol.

12. The greates miricle in the bible is when Joshua told his son to stand still and he obeyed him.

13. David was a Hebrew king who was skilled at playing the liar. He fought the Finkelsteins, a race of people who lived in bibical times.

14. Solomon, one of Davids sons, had 300 wives and 700 porcupines.

15. When Mary heard she was the mother of Jesus, she sang the Magna Carta.

16. When the three wise guys from the east side arrived, they found Jesus in the manager.

17. Jesus was born because Mary had an immaculate contraption.

18. St. John the blacksmith dumped water on his head.

19. Jesus enunciated the goldn Rule, which says to do unto others before they do on to you. He also explained, a man
doth not live by sweat alone.

20. It was a miricle when Jesus rose from the dead and managed to get the tombstone off the entrance.

21. The people who followed the lord were called the 12 decibels.

22. The epistels were the wives of the apostals.

23. One of the oppossums was St. Matthew who was also a taximan.

24. St. Paul cavorted to Christianity, he preached holy acrimony, which is another name for marraige.

25. Christians have only one spouse. This is called monotony.

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The Christians are wasting their time trying to deal with Gay People

crisco_in_the_lbc — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:14:16 GMT

They have some internal housekeeping to do before they go after the gay community. They need to 50% of the divorce rate of secular society. And Jesus the Chirst backs me up. And Paul considers the homosexuality on a laundry list of all kinds of sins.

They hype gay people as some abomination to God, but in reality, Paul and Jesus considered to it be on a landry list of sins. The Bible does consider being a gay sin but the Xtians blow it way out of proportion than what Paul and Jesus view homosexuality. WhenI do go to church, the pastor would share my view.

In reality, the bible considers divorce a bigger issue than homosexuality and yet, I have created a realistic milestone for the Xtians to reach before they have the green light to preach aganist gay people. THe divorce significantly impacts a far more amount of people than the gay population does. If the church wants to impact America, than lower the divorce rate.

Message, to Xtains, clean up your own house before preach a gospel of intolerance to gays.

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New Bill Maher Documentary

crisco_in_the_lbc — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:59:34 GMT

Saw this on the New Humanist Blog

"A friend of mine from the States has alerted me to a movie coming out in the autumn called Religilous – it's a documentary where Bill Maher travels the world trying to find out just why billions of people believe in God and associated religious matters. It's directed by Larry Charles, who directed Borat, and also worked on Seinfeld and Curb Your Enthusiasm, and it looks hilarious.

Let's hope it comes out over here - given the comedy pedigree involved, I have high hopes it will. Watch the trailer and see what you think:"

(http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2008/07/coming-later-this-year-religilous-with.html)

It might be Interesting to see

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San Francisco and Sewage :)

David ♥ Air — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:30:29 GMT

A san Francisco measure seeking to commemorate President Bush's years in office, by slapping his name on a city sewage plant has qualified for the November ballot. The measure certified on Thursday would rename the Oceanside Water Pollution Control Plant to the George W. Bush Sewage Plant. Backers say the idea is to commemorate the mess they claim Bush left behind by actions such as the war in Iraq. Local Republicans say the plan stinks and they will oppose it! -- Associated Press (San Jose Mercury News) :)(:

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American Family Association Launches Boycott Against McDonald’s

Bloke72 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:18:52 GMT

American Family Association Launches Boycott Against McDonald’s For ‘Promoting The Homosexual Agenda’»

Today, the right-wing American Family Association (AFA) announced a boycott of McDonald’s. According to AFA, Ronald McDonald and his gang are part of giant gay agenda:

What the boycott of McDonald’s IS about

It is about McDonald’s, as a corporation, refusing to remain neutral in the culture wars. McDonald’s has chosen not to remain neutral but to give the full weight of their corporation to promoting the homosexual agenda, including homosexual marriage.

AFA is upset at McDonald’s for refusing to condemn Vice President of Communications Richard Ellis’s decision to serve on the Board of Directors of the National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC). AFA President Donald Wildmon said the situation is “strange” because “it’s the family that McDonald’s appeals to — children’s playland, you know, all the little toys, all of that. And they are promoting a lifestyle that would utterly destroy the traditional family.”

So far, McDonald’s is holding strong, writing a letter to Wildmon on May 29 and rebuffing his attacks:

We treat our employees and our customers with respect and dignity, regardless of their ethnicity, religious beliefs, sexual orientation or other factors. We support our employees’ personal involvement in organizations of their choice.

Although AFA tries to make clear that it is NOT protesting McDonald’s “hiring homosexuals” or “homosexuals eating at McDonald’s,” as Good As You notes, “Whether it’s a direct attack on gay customer or employees or an attack on particular employees role in a pro-gay capacity, this situation is still about the company supporting diversity (something the AFA resists at every turn).”

AFA has a long history of silly, offensive boycotts against, among others, Wal-Mart (for selling “Brokeback Mountain” DVDs), Ford Motor Company (for advertising in gay-friendly publications), and the American Girl dolls (because the maker contributed to a youth organization that was pro-choice and supported the acceptance of lesbians). In 2005, it called off its unsuccessful nine-year boycott of Disney (for its “embrace of the homosexual lifestyle“).

McDonald’s should follow Disney’s lead and ignore the right-wing protests. After all, during the nine years AFA was boycotting Disney, the company saw record profits.

From http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/03/mcdonalds-boycott/

And I liked Mark Morfords take on this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2008/07/11/notes071108.DTL&nl=fix which I got via the morford tribe at http://morford.tribe.net/

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OK. What Do You Guys Think About This Happy Little Incident?

Bill_Dunlap — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:04:38 GMT

This one speaks for itself.

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2007/08/atheist_mistreatment_in_iraq.php?utm_source=mostemailed&utm_medium=link

Atheist Mistreatment in Iraq

Category:
Posted on: August 7, 2007 9:23 AM, by Ed Brayton

No, not by radical Muslims but by our own military. This email was forwarded to me from a soldier in Iraq whose friend is being harassed at another base for organizing a meeting of atheists on the base. The email was originally sent to Kathleen Johnson, the military director for American Atheists, who is currently serving in Iraq herself. The full email is below the fold:

Kathleen Johnson:

Thought you'd be interested in this report of the first-ever meeting of Atheist service-members in Iraq under the umbrella of the MAAF-Iraq chapter of the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers. This meeting was put together by the same young MAAF member who recently had his second letter published in the Stars and Stripes.

One of our members, a young Atheist enlisted soldier, thought he would like to see if he could generate some interest in MAAF meetings at his Forward Operating Base (FOB) here in Iraq (not the base I'm at, by the way). He got things coordinated and started hanging flyers, and after weeks of having to re-hang his flyers almost daily because some vandal kept tearing them down, he finally succeeded in having a small MAAF meeting. I wasn't there because the meeting wasn't on my FOB, but I knew he was holding it and was expecting to hear from him after the meeting. Keep in mind that this young soldier did everything right - he went through the Chaplain's office and jumped through all the hoops it takes to legally hold meetings that are religiously or philosophically based. Four soldiers attended this meeting - all of them very junior enlisted soldiers with the exception of one Major (an O-4), who claimed to be a "freethinker".

Well, to make a very long story a little shorter, the Major turned out to be a fundamentalist Christian who verbally berated the other attendees, accused them of plotting against Christians and disrespecting soldiers who have died protecting the Constitution, and threatened them with punishment under the UCMJ for their activities (said they were "going down") and said he would do whatever it took to shut the meetings down. Keep in mind that by this point, he had two of the attendees (one soldier fled when the shouting started) standing at the position of attention so that he could yell at them, berate them, and humiliate them. This apparently went on for several minutes at which time the Major shut down the meeting by saying he wasn't some "push-over Chaplain" and that he would not tolerate the meetings to continue.

The young MAAF member who hosted the meeting is absolutely freaked out about what happened, but he said he's going to continue with the meetings and isn't going to be bullied by the prayer warriors. I've advised him to immediately notify the Chaplain sponsor of what happened to get guidance while I try to figure out what to do next. I should hear something back from him tonight sometime and there's even a small possibility I might be able to score a mission to his FOB and attend one of his meetings in the next few weeks (if I do, I'll meet with the Chaplain in person).

As for immediate action, he's going to get me the names of his Chaplain sponsor and the name of the officer who disrupted the meeting. My intent right now is to make a formal report to the most senior Chaplain I can find along with possibly an Equal Opportunity complaint against the officer if we can get him fully identified. I may not be eligible to make that complaint because I wasn't there, but I can at least smooth the way for this young troop to make one if he elects to. At the very least, I can make the EO office formally aware of what happened there.

More info will follow when I get it, but right now, feel free to disseminate this information since I've intentionally sanitized it for names and locations. I will be happy to forward any words of support to him if they get mailed to my (redacted email) address - he could really use some encouragement right now, I think.

I've forwarded it along with the contact information for this soldier to Mikey Weinstein and the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. They may have already been aware of it; if not, they are now. He'll raise an appropriate stink about it, I'm sure.

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Another pathetic liar bites the dust

David ♥ Air — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:40:42 GMT

Ok I am going to assuredly mangle this quote..... When Bette Davis was asked to comment about the death of her rival Joan Crawford, she said something like this..."it's not nice to say bad things about the dead, Joan Crawford is dead, GOOD!" :)(:

Tony Snow - right wing Faux News entitled pundit, hypocrite, consumate right-wing propagandist and liar, member of "The Elves" who helped set-up Bill Clinton in that famous perjury trap, daily apologist for the Bush Crime Family is dead from cancer ---> GOOD! :)(:

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Take a Wafer, Get Death Threats

Krampus — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:16:05 GMT

A student who did not eat but rather left mass with a communion wafer is now receiving death threats.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=912931E6387D06E86603288C86CA66A1?contentId=6932236&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

Here are some of the reactions from the mentally insane, superstitious, religious idiots:

"We don't know 100% what Mr. Cooks motivation was," said Susan Fani a spokesperson with the local Catholic diocese. "However, if anything were to qualify as a hate crime, to us this seems like this might be it."
We just expect the University to take this seriously," she added "To send a message to not just Mr. Cook but the whole community that this kind of really complete sacrilege will not be tolerated."

http://www.wftv.com/news/16798008/detail.html
"It is hurtful," said Father Migeul Gonzalez with the Diocese. "Imagine if they kidnapped somebody and you make a plea for that individual to please return that loved one to the family."
Gonzalez said the Diocese is willing to meet with Cook and help him understand the importance of the Eucharist in hopes of him returning it. The Diocese is dispatching a nun to UCF's campus to oversee the next mass, protect the Eucharist and in hopes Cook will return it.
Gonzalez said intentionally abusing the Eucharist is classified as a mortal sin in the Catholic church, the most severe possible. If it's not returned, the community of faith will have to ask for forgiveness.
"We have to make acts of reparation," Gonzalez said. "The whole community is going to turn to prayer. We'll ask the Lord for pardon, forgiveness, peace, not only for the whole community affected by it, but also for [Cook], we offer prayers for him as well."

http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1458
"For a student to disrupt Mass by taking the Body of Christ hostage--regardless of the alleged nature of his grievance--is beyond hate speech. That is why the UCF administration needs to act swiftly and decisively in seeing that justice is done. All options should be on the table, including expulsion, said Bill Donahue.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=912931E6387D06E86603288C86CA66A1?contentId=6932236&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
University officials said, that as for right now, Webster Cook is not in trouble. If anyone or any group wants to file a formal complaint with the University through the student judicial system, they can. If that happens, Webster will go through a hearing either in front of an administrative panel or a panel of his peers.

The college is now having armed university police officers standing guard during mass.

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Religion ala Eddie Izzard

Bloke72 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 11:24:51 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ope-1Zb5t-k

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Helms is DEAD!

Jake — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:04:05 GMT

Today is a day of Celebration for Gay People all across the United States...not only is it the 4th of July but JESSE HELMS IS DEAD!
The Old Mule finally kicked at 86! So he obviously can't be a RIGHT WINGED (R...of Course) Senator any longer!
This Christian Fundamentalist (Evangelical!) Fat Bloated Bigoted Man has been SOLEY Responsible for blocking Bills in Congress that would have benefitted Gay People since 1971 when "Gay Rights" began! Including blocking Funding for HIV/AIDS in it's early days.
This is just ONE more Bigoted Christian who has outlived his life and his usefulness!
Perhaps there is a "GOD" out there somewhere becuase today,he has blessed us with the Death of this Christian Bigot!
Now...let us talk about Senatorial TERM LIMITS...shall we? to keep these Christian Bigots with their 1945 Morality Codes OUT of Modern Politics!

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Conservative Christians invoke slavery in opposing Obama

Project_Mayhem — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:12:22 GMT

Geez, these people are embarrassing

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/conservative-ch.html

Conservative Christian Group Invokes Slavery In Opposing Obama

The Christian Defense Coalition held their anti-Obama press conference today -- "An Appeal to Catholics Regarding the 2008 Presidential Election" -- complete with the "I want you to pay for abortions" Obama-as-Uncle-Sam picture we told you about Monday as well as some other interesting material.

Argues the CDC: "if that issue involves a fundamental right, such as the right to life for a certain group of human beings, and there is only one morally legitimate position on that issue…no faithful Catholic would vote for a candidate who, although 'personally opposed to slavery,' supported 'a white man's right to choose' to own slaves."

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Religulous (2008) Trailer

Bloke72 — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:17:06 GMT

You guys mike like this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSa2j6UoU78

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BBC: Senate Investigation Televangelists

Catseye — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:34:39 GMT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7484662.stm

X-posted from the !*POLITICS*! tribe.

(NOTHING about this in the American MSM.)

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Expelled exposed

Project_Mayhem — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 22:54:58 GMT

anyone? anyone? Bueller?

http://www.expelledexposed.com/

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Search and Replace Is Not Always Your Friend

MickD — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:56:37 GMT

A funny mistake made by those who want to rewrite the news:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16044.html

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50 Reasons that Proves there is no God

Bill_Dunlap — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:42:06 GMT

http://www.godisimaginary.com/

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Faith-based Favours

Project_Mayhem — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:00:24 GMT

http://jonathanturley.org/2008/06/26/faith-based-favors-justice-department-official-fired-after-invoking-the-fifth-amendment-in-congressional-investigation/

Michele DeKonty, who served as chief of staff at the U.S. Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP), has been fired after invoking the Fifth Amendment and refusing to answer congressional questions over granting favors to certain organizations in federal grants. It is yet another scandal in the Bush Administration that shows how deep the damage has been at the Justice Department. She is accused of cutting corners for faith-based organizations. This is not good news for Regents University, the religious based law school that has been a favorite hiring ground for the Bush Justice Department. DeKonty is a graduate of Regents University and has been compared to that other infamous Regent grad, Monica Goodling.

DeKonty’s favors for faith-based organization were criticized in a letter from Beth McGarry, the deputy assistant attorney general for operations and management at the Office of Justice Programs to Robert Flores, the head of the office: “I am very disturbed that Michele advised you to disregard all the rules (that were posted on your website) and permit every late applicant an opportunity to submit an application.”

Notably, DeKonty actions were defended by Flores after McGarry called them “indefensible.” Flores said that helping faith-based groups was due to “their participation is a Presidential priority.”

McGarry correctly responded that “It is critical for the integrity of the competitive process that all applicants are treated the same and that we do not bend the rules for a category of applicants, such as faith based organizations.”

Flores, however, continued to defend waiving deadlines as a way to “avoid disaster.” They are accused of assisting World Golf Foundation’s First Tee initiative, “whose honorary chairman is former president George H.W. Bush, and an abstinence program promoted by Best Buddies, led by Elaine Bennett, spouse of Reagan administration cabinet official Bill Bennett.”

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Pride

the-daflew — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:45:28 GMT

it is with great pride i show my tribe the portland Groovebomb showing and representing for the first time with its new look and side platforms! at the Portland Pride Parade and the Seattle Pride parade!

GO PRIDE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yODrzG1FZl4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoR3dinrOTE

http://groovebomb.org/

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Stop Me If You've Heard This One.

Bill_Dunlap — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:44:30 GMT

The boy and his kittens

One day, a preacher was walking along the street and he comes across a boy with a box filled with newly born kittens.

"Boy, what kind of kittens do you have there?" The preacher asked the young boy.

"They're christian kittens, sir" the boy replied. So the preacher, nods, smiles and walks along. Two weeks later he comes across the same boy and asks "How are those christian kittens doing?" The boy smiles at him, looks up and says "Oh, they're not christian kittens anymore"

The preacher, shocked by this exclaims "What... why not?!?" The boy continues to smile and looks at him, "Well, ya see, now they're eyes are open and they're atheists."

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Well I guess the Sun might be wrong

jims713 — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:59:42 GMT

about the timing of the second coming. See below.

http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/FaithMatters/story?id=5225539&page=1

http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=world%20news%20now&type= (there are photos and a video here)

I can't believe the Sun might have gotten it wrong.

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Interesting Quote

crisco_in_the_lbc — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:55:26 GMT

“Lycurgus, Numa, Moses, Jesus Christ, Mohammed, all these great rogues, all these great thought-tyrants, knew how to associate the divinities they fabricated with their own boundless ambition.”
Marquis De Sade

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Finally, a drug store that's not teeming with sluts

jims713 — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 06:00:39 GMT

http://www.236.com/news/2008/06/16/finally_a_drug_store_thats_not_7169.php

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That Jesus Never shows up on time...

Bloke72 — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:14:26 GMT

The Great Disappointment was a major event in the history of the Millerite movement, a 19th century American Christian sect. William Miller, a Baptist preacher, prophesied that Jesus Christ would return to the earth during the Jewish year 1844. A more specific date, that of October 22, 1844 was calculated by Samuel S. Snow. Jesus did not appear as expected on the appointed day and as a result October 22, 1844 became known as the Great Disappointment.

Never heard of that one. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_disappointment

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Mr. Sulu's getting married! <]:-)))

Catseye — Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:51:02 GMT

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Star-Trek-George-Takei-gets-marriage-license/ss/events/en/061808georgetakei

Congratulations, George and Brad!

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God, Inc

Project_Mayhem — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:34:15 GMT

ha ha ha ha ha

Pt. 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2f4heaG288

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Shrinking Flock Examines Its Identity

Bloke72 — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:16:01 GMT

Shrinking Flock Examines Its Identity
Churches Renamed to Escape Stigma Some Say 'Baptist' Carries

By Brigid Schulte
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 8, 2008; Page C01

The Rev. Todd Thomason looked out at the nearly empty pews of his congregation at Baptist Temple Church last Sunday. He had preached long and hard about Abraham leaving all that he knew and setting out into an unknown future on nothing more than faith in God. He was hoping that, after the service, what was left of his flock would have the courage to do the same.

After 100 years, Baptist Temple, he feared, was dying. In its heyday in the 1950s, more than 900 members crammed into the sanctuary of the pretty white church in Alexandria that was built for 500. Now he was lucky to get 30. Perhaps the problem, he began to think, was the name itself.

"We're probably the most progressive church in the city, but 'Baptist Temple' sounds weird, like it's charismatic and conservative," Thomason said. He worried that the word "Baptist" had become indelibly tied to the political religious right and that when combined with "Temple" it sounded like a fundamentalist "bring out the snakes" kind of place.

So after the service, Thomason would ask the remaining members of the church to save themselves, so to speak, and vote to change their name.

Like those at many Baptist and other Christian churches across the country where attendance has steadily dropped, many Baptist Temple members feel they are at a point where they must either rebrand themselves with a new name, restart as an entirely new church or limp along a few more years before quietly closing their doors.

Recent national surveys show that in an attempt to fill pews, a small but steadily growing number of Christian churches are changing their names and even their religious denominations. Wycoff Baptist in New Jersey became Cornerstone Christian Church. First Baptist in Concord, N.H., is now Centerpoint Church. The Reformed Church in America outside Detroit became Crosswinds Community Church.

Even the Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant group in the country, whose 16 million membership has declined in recent years, has hosted church-naming seminars asking the question, "To Baptist or Not to Baptist?"

The convention meets this week to consider a 10-year program designed to stem the membership loss.

"The word Baptist is such a turnoff," said David Roozen, director of the Hartford Institute for Religion Research in Connecticut, who has documented the name-changing trend. "There is a kind of national skepticism about evangelical Christianity because of the religious right and the connection to the Bush administration. You say 'Baptist' and people almost automatically think conservative."

Others say it's more about marketing. "We're entering into a nondenominational era," said Roger Oldham, vice president of convention relations for the Southern Baptist Convention. "One hundred years ago, when people moved to a new area, they were looking for the name brand they were accustomed to. Now, people are looking for genuineness and transparency. Not a particular label."

Just up the street from Baptist Temple, Fair-Park Baptist Church, barely hanging on with 30 members, closed its doors a few years ago and reopened as Convergence, with a new mission to cater to area artists, with weekly seminars on "The Artist's Way" and Sunday services at 5 p.m. in deference to musicians playing until the wee hours the night before. Membership dropped to 15 after the change, pastor Lisa Hawkins said, but has inched up to 35.

The Rev. Stephen Welch, executive director of Northstar Church Network, an association of Baptist churches in Northern Virginia, said few new churches have "Baptist" in their names. "I don't think it's a matter of being ashamed, but wanting to position the church where there's less confusion about who you are and who is welcome."

At least that's the argument Thomason made Sunday in the church hall, just before the vote.

Thomason held up the century-old silver cup he used to celebrate Communion that day. "You know what it says?" he asked the crowd that was finishing a pizza lunch. "It says Second Baptist." The church changed its name in 1924, he reminded them, to avoid confusion with an African American church of the same name. The world had changed, he argued. It was time to change the name with it.

Baptist Temple is the kind of place where Thomason likes to say all are welcome. There are openly gay members and activists and Hill staffers from both political parties. There are former Catholics and converted Jews. There are whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics. In the 1990s, it was one of the first Baptist churches to break with the conservative Southern Baptist Convention when the convention decreed that women should submit to their husbands and forbade them to serve on the altar. Then Baptist Temple called a woman to serve as its head pastor.

Since October, Thomason has been meeting with small groups as they wrestle with their identity and their name. Members have argued over names such as "Fellowship of Peace" and "Rosemont Community Church." And in one particularly painful PowerPoint session, members hashed out the pros and cons of keeping the word "Baptist." "It's who we are," argued one. "There's too much baggage," argued another.

Sue Anderson thinks the name Baptist Temple is "kind of bizarre." But primarily because of the "Temple" part, which was chosen because of the church's onetime proximity to the towering George Washington Masonic Memorial. She worries it conjures images of tambourines and people speaking in tongues. But the word "Baptist?" That's non-negotiable.

"I'm pretty proud to be a Baptist. Throughout history, Baptists have probably been among the most radical and liberal denominations of them all," she said. "I feel bitter that the name has been hijacked by the Jerry Falwells and Tammy Faye Bakkers of the world. They shouldn't steal my Baptist heritage from me. I want to fight for it."

Baptists are famously among the most independent Christian denominations. There are primitive Baptists. Baptists who don't drink or dance. Baptists who take the Bible literally. There are moderate Northern Baptists who broke with Southern churches over slavery before the Civil War. African American Baptists. Korean Baptists. And there are Baptists like Jimmy Carter and Martin Luther King Jr.

Baptists have no church hierarchy. Each church is supremely autonomous and self-supporting. And all people, they believe, have not only the freedom but the responsibility to interpret the Bible as it speaks to them and to seek God on their own terms. But in recent years, the world has come to equate all Baptists with only the denomination's most conservative branch.

"When you have to spend your time in explain-and-defend mode, saying, 'I'm not one of those Baptists,' it gets in the way of explaining who you are," said Pat Eddington, a Baptist Temple member who's been pushing for the name change. "A lot of people see us as surrendering to the Southern Baptist Convention. To me, the difference is, they've already won."

In its 100 years, Baptist Temple has survived a lot: two moves, floods, a fire, a secretary who ran off with the collection money and a pastor's wife who ran off with the chairman of the deacons. But perhaps the biggest crisis is this: In recent years, as the old guard has faded into nursing homes or died, only one new person has joined the church. And like many newer members, Gayle Reuter said she joined in spite of the name. "I never dreamed it was progressive," she said.

Reuter joined because of the people, she said, and because of the good works the church does. She doesn't really care about the name. "But I'm concerned that if people don't come inside in the first place, because of the name, we may not be able to continue," she said. "If there's a chance that we won't make it, then the name could be really critical."

With lunch finished, it was time to vote. Yellow ballots and pencils made their way around the room. Three members disappeared into another room to count. Church bylaws require a majority vote of two-thirds of the 37 members present.

Helen and Sam Dickens had already decided to vote no. They joined the church in 1945 as young newlyweds and remember week-long revivals, songfests, crowded church suppers and the days of five choirs and lively softball, bowling and basketball teams. They love the name Baptist Temple. "It's worked all these years; why change it?" Helen lamented before the vote.

In minutes, the counting committee returned with the results. Ten voted to keep name. One abstained. And 26 members, just 1.4 votes more the majority required, won the day. Baptist Temple will henceforth be known as "Commonwealth Baptist Church."

In the end, members compromised. They changed their name but could not leave their Baptist roots behind. Instead, they'll add a tagline, something that explains their kind of Baptist, such as "A Progressive Community of Faith."

As people filed out, Thomason breathed a sigh of relief. Changing the name is no magic bullet. "It's not like we change the name and next Sunday 200 people will be at worship," he said. But it's a start. Although he won't be around to see it.

Thomason, who became pastor in 2004, got caught up in the church's struggle for identity and survival. Some blamed him, not just the name, for failing to bring in new people and asked him to resign. He preached his last on Sunday. Then he, too, like the newly named church, like Abraham, will step out into an unknown future, on nothing more than faith.

Source http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/07/AR2008060700924.html

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Could somebody please tell me why this is acceptable?

Pam — Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:55:36 GMT

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=91368009

Christian leaders meet privately with Obama

from The Associated Press

CHICAGO June 11, 2008, 02:43 am ET · Barack Obama discussed Darfur, the Iraq war, gay rights, abortion and other issues Tuesday with Christian leaders, including conservatives who have been criticized for praising the Democratic presidential candidate.

Bishop T.D. Jakes, a prominent black clergyman who heads a Dallas megachurch, said Obama took questions, listened to participants and discussed his "personal journey of faith."

The discussion "went absolutely everywhere," Jakes told The Associated Press, and "just about every Christian stripe was represented in that room."

Jakes, who does not endorse candidates and said he also hopes to meet with Republican presidential candidate John McCain, said some participants clearly have political differences with Obama. The senator's support for abortion rights and gay rights, among other issues, draws opposition from religious conservatives. Some conservatives have criticized Jakes for praising Obama.

Jakes said the meeting, at a law firm's offices, seemed designed to prompt a wide discussion rather than to result in commitments from either Obama or those attending. Others familiar with the meeting said some participants agreed to attend only because it would be private.

Rich Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs of the National Association of Evangelicals, an umbrella organization for evangelical churches and ministries, said Obama asked participants to share "anything that's on your mind that is of concern to you."

"I think it's important to point out this isn't a group of people who are endorsing Obama," Cizik said in an interview. "People were asked for their insider wisdom and understanding of the religious community."

Mark DeMoss, a spokesman for the Rev. Franklin Graham, said Graham attended and asked Obama whether "he thought Jesus was the way to God, or merely a way." DeMoss declined to discuss Obama's response.

Graham, who succeeded his father as head of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, found the senator "impressive" and "warm," DeMoss said.

"He feels that dialogue with someone who may be president is useful whether or not you agree with them on everything or anything," DeMoss said. Graham expects to soon meet with Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

Joshua Dubois, the Obama campaign's director of faith outreach, said the meeting included "prominent evangelicals and other faith leaders" who "discussed policy issues and came together in conversation and prayer." Similar sessions will occur "in the months to come," he said.

About 30 people attended, the campaign said, but it released only three names: the Rev. Stephen Thurston, head of the National Baptist Convention of America, Inc., a historically black denomination; the Rev. T. Dewitt Smith, president of the Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc., which was home to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and other civil rights leaders; and Bishop Phillip Robert Cousin Sr., an A.M.E. clergyman and former NAACP board member.

Two sources familiar with the meeting, but who spoke on background because the session was private, said others attending included conservative Catholic constitutional lawyer Doug Kmiec; evangelical author Max Lucado of San Antonio; Cameron Strang, founder of Relevant Media, which is aimed at young Christians; the Rev. Luis Cortes of Esperanza USA; and Paul Corts, president of the Council of Christian Colleges and Universities.

Kmiec, an abortion opponent who worked for the Reagan administration's Justice Department, was denied Communion in April at a Mass for Catholic business people because he had endorsed Obama. Church leaders later apologized, according to syndicated columnist E.J. Dionne.

Cizik said the issues discussed Tuesday included "protecting the traditional family, same-sex marriage, gay rights, religious freedom, genocide, poverty and hunger in America, and how we might even improve America's standing in the world."

He said he told Obama: "Religious Americans want to know why is it you love this country and what it stands for and how we can make it better."

Cizik said participants agreed not to give specifics of Obama's responses to their questions, but that "there was nothing softball about this meeting and that's the way he said he wanted it."

Jakes said there was just a brief mention of Jeremiah Wright, Obama's former pastor, who became the focus of a political flare-up earlier in the year after videos of his sermons showed him cursing the government and accusing it of conspiring against blacks. Obama eventually broke with Wright and resigned from Trinity United Church of Christ.

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Gay Nature

Wizzard — Sat, 17 May 2008 15:47:47 GMT

A history of studies shows that gay sex and gay marriage even are completely natural despite all the Christianoid furor about the "unnatural" quality of such hanky-panky.

Here's the link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080516/sc_livescience/samesexcouplescommoninthewild

And for those who don't enjoy clicking on links, here is the complete article:

As gay couples celebrate their newfound right to marry in California and opposition groups rally to fight the ruling, many struggle with this question: Is homosexuality natural?

On this issue, Nature has spoken: Same-sex lovin' is common in hundreds of species, scientists say.

Roy and Silo, two male chinstrap penguins at New York's Central Park Zoo, were a couple for about six years, during which they nurtured a fertilized egg together (given to them by a zookeeper) and raised the young chick that hatched.

According to University of Oslo zoologist Petter Böckman, about 1,500 animal species are known to practice same-sex coupling, including bears, gorillas, flamingos, owls, salmon and many others.

If homosexuality is natural in the animal kingdom, then there is the question of why evolution hasn't eliminated this trait from the gene pool, since it doesn't lead to reproduction.

It may simply be for pleasure.

"Not every sexual act has a reproductive function," said Janet Mann, a biologist at Georgetown University who studies dolphins (homosexual behavior is very common in these marine mammals). "That's true of humans and non-humans."

Some scientists have proposed that being gay may serve its own evolutionary purpose.

"It could be a way that you strengthen bonds - that's one hypothesis," Mann told LiveScience. "Another is that it could be practice for heterosexual sex. Bottlenose dolphin calves mount each other a lot. That might benefit them later on."

Marlene Zuk, a biologist at the University of California, Riverside, suggested that gay individuals contribute to the gene pool of their community by nurturing their relatives' young without diverting resources by having their own offspring.

One thing that does seem to be exclusive to humans is homophobia.

"It's a very interesting question as to why anybody ever cares," Mann said. "There are different theories about why people find it threatening. Some think it disrupts male bonds, like you're not playing for the right team. The funny thing is that people say homosexuality is unnatural, that non-humans don't engage in homosexual behavior, but that's not true. Then they'll say it's base and animalistic."

Humans' resistance to the idea of homosexuality extends even to research on the behavior in animals. Scientists who study the topic are often accused of trying to forward an agenda, and their work can come under greater scrutiny than that of their colleagues who study other topics, Mann said

"It's kind of a shame because I think that probably is a reason why people don't look at it more," Mann said. "That's probably why we haven't gotten further. You would think we'd know more than we do by now."

--30--

I note that some 1500 species of animals are known to engage in gay sex, even gay marriage, so the argument that it is "unnatural" is simply untrue. And even gay marriage is known to occur in the wild as witness the two penguins referred to in the article. Together for six years and raising a chick on their own. Many human marriages don't last for six years.

And it is interesting that when this argument fails, the anti-joy faction shifts to the opposite tack, "Well, it's base and animalistic." Uh, excuse me, folks, humans are animals, right? I mean we're not vegetables (except for the Christianoids) and we're not minerals (except for the very strict Christianoids), so what does that leave? Why not let people find their bliss where they will and let them sort it out with God for themselves. Do they think God can't handle the job, that he needs their help?

The first rule of Christianity probably should not be "Love one another." That seems to upset the Christianoids anyway. The one rule they need most is, "Mind your own business."

With love under will,

Bob, Adastra,
The Wizzard of Jacksonville

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Magic trick costs teacher job

Krampus — Mon, 05 May 2008 18:04:06 GMT

Magic trick costs teacher job
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=79533

Substitute teacher Jim Piculas does a 30-second magic trick where a toothpick disappears then reappears.

But after performing it in front of a classroom at Rushe Middle School in Land 'O Lakes, Piculas said his job did a disappearing act of its own.

"I get a call the middle of the day from head of supervisor of substitute teachers. He says, 'Jim, we have a huge issue, you can't take any more assignments you need to come in right away,'" he said.

When Piculas went in,he learned his little magic trick cast a spell and went much farther than he'd hoped.

"I said, 'Well Pat, can you explain this to me?' 'You've been accused of wizardry,' [he said]. Wizardry?" he asked.

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How Many Christianoids Does it Take to Change a Light Bulb?

Bill_Dunlap — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 09:46:27 GMT

How Many Church Members Does it Take to Change A Light Bulb?

Charismatic: Only one. Hands already in the air.

Pentecostals: Ten. One to change the bulb, and nine to pray against the spirit of darkness.

Presbyterians: None. Lights will go on and off at predestined times.

Roman Catholic: None. Candles only.

Baptists: At least 15. One to change the light bulb, and three committees to approve the change and decide who brings the potato salad.

Episcopalians: Three. One to call the electrician, one to mix the drinks and one to talk about how much better the old one was.

Mormons: Five. One man to change the bulb, and four wives to tell him how to do it.

Unitarians: We choose not to make a statement either in favor of or against the need for a light bulb. However, if in your own journey you have found that light bulbs work for you, that is fine. You are invited to write a poem or compose a modern dance about your light bulb for the next Sunday service, in which we will explore a number of light bulb traditions including incandescent, fluorescent, three-way, long-life and tinted, all of which are equally valid paths to luminescence.

Methodists: Undetermined. Whether your light is bright, dull, or completely out, you are loved. You can be a light bulb, turnip bulb, or tulip bulb. Church-wide lighting service is planned for Sunday. Bring bulb of your choice and a covered dish.

Nazarene: Six. One woman to replace the bulb while five men review church lighting policy.

Lutherans: None. Lutherans don't believe in change.

Amish: What's a light bulb?

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That phony shroud's going on display again

Project_Mayhem — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:11:15 GMT

Oh thank heavens...LOL

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpost/news/story.html?id=83070f14-b729-4f72-b864-1233cc597510

Shroud of Turin to go back on display in 2010: pope

Father Vince Gulikers, pastor of the Holy Name of Mary Church in Windsor, Ont., examines a replica of the Shroud of Turin that was on display there in 2006.

VATICAN CITY - The Shroud of Turin, revered by many Christians as the cloth in which Jesus Christ was buried, will go on display again in the northern Italian city in 2010, Pope Benedict XVI said on Monday.

"Another solemn exhibition of the shroud" will take place in spring 2010, the pope said during an audience with pilgrims from Turin.

The display will be "a propitious occasion to contemplate this mysterious visage that speaks silently to men's hearts, inviting them to recognise the face of God," Benedict said.

The piece of linen some four metres long and one metre wide (12 by three feet), bearing what many believe to be the imprint of Christ's face around the time of his resurrection, was discovered in the mid-14th century in a church in northeastern France.

The relic has been a source of constant controversy.

Historians and scientists using carbon dating techniques say the cloth was fabricated between 1260 and 1390.

The Shroud of Turin was last exhibited in 2000 when then Pope John Paul II wanted the faithful attending that year's World Youth Day, in Rome, to have a chance to view it

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Opinion Piece

Bill_Dunlap — Thu, 22 May 2008 20:01:01 GMT

Jesus Arm-Wrestled Dinosaurs
Culture
by Allison Kilkenny | May 21, 2008 - 4:34pm

article tools: email | print | read more Allison Kilkenny

A recent ABC poll reports that 16% of U.S. science teachers are Creationists, and worse, one in eight of them admit to teaching Creationism as a kind of valid science in their classrooms .

There is such a thing as too much tolerance. Those of us born after 1980 were raised on a sugary diet of time-outs, love-ins, and diversity seminars. We are encouraged to discuss our feeling and always, always value the beliefs of our fellow citizens. As a result, America is a padded multicultural nation where every creed, ideology, and puny belief basks beneath the gentle rays of Credibility. After all, it's better to accept everything than risk excluding someone, somewhere.

Liberty's eagerness to clutch even the most retched, mutated gimp of a philosophy to her bosom sometimes results in absurd declarations getting absorbed into the national dialog. We begin to treat utter bullshit like truth.

This policy of tongue-kissing intellectual opponents who hold beliefs different than the status-quo is usually acceptable, oftentimes remarkable, and definitely essential in a democracy. Though, lurking in the shadows is the inevitable backlash of this institutionalized tolerance.

Institutionalized tolerance makes it taboo to condemn the practice of teachers teaching Creationism in the classroom. This intellectually bankrupt curriculum needs to be condemned because believing in a creator doesn't make it true. It's not true because no one can prove it's true. Belief is the opposite of science, which is knowledge attained through study or practice. Students can study the behavior of bacteria, plants, and animals, but God - along with all deities - belongs in the philosophy and religious studies classrooms.

Any other handling of religion vs. science is dangerous. The two must remain separate so we can continue to enjoy learned doctors and engineers, and not suffer from the constant paranoia that the lady operating on our brain, or the dude fixing our plane's engine, is a Jesus Kid who never went to college.

Some argue that Creationism is a legitimate spiritual alternative to the intellectual argument of Science. Except, the two aren't a ying-yang presentation of reality. Creationism is a theory. Science is real. The majority of sane individuals in this country have a duty to condemn crazy, fringe beliefs instead of incorporating them into educational curriculum lest we rear an entire generation of dumbasses, who have no idea which nations fought which wars, but they're pretty sure Jesus arm-wrestled dinosaurs and punishes gay people for being too fabulous.

The media is guided by this same kind of corrupt tolerance where the absurd global warming debate has entered its awkward period. The smart people in the room are exasperatedly eying each other with their palms up, wondering what else can we do to convince these assholes?

But instead of presenting the science accurately and dutifully broadcasting our looming planetary doom, the media warps reality and for every legitimate scientist permitted on-air wailing time, there waits a showcase of peanut gallery idiots and cons, claiming all the science is wrong. Of course, many of these so-called neutral experts who dismiss global warming as a hoax work for the oil industry, but no matter. Remember: everyone gets to have their shot at the one Truth even if they're lying.

Dangerous doses of blind tolerance allow Creationism in the classroom and con men on the airwaves, just as an overdose of tolerance allows the GOP presidential candidate, John McCain, to parade around with a lunatic like John Hagee, whose latest crazy blathering included the sentiment that Hitler was only fulfilling the will of God.

Of course, all of this is only important if Americans value sane, rational discussion. In order to preserve a community of civil debate and steady intellectual evolution, certain theories and beliefs must fall by the wayside.

Education weeds out intruders like myths and rumors. The separation of politics from religion ensures that no religious hacks can get their grubby, swollen nubs on children and brainwash them into believing the sexist, racist, evil things uttered by the likes of John Hagee.

Otherwise, all ideas are treated as equals. Bad ideas like Creationism are taught as truth in the classroom. Bad ideas like global warming being a hoax are broadcast by the media. A bad idea like a religious zealot parading around with a GOP presidential candidate goes underreported by the mainstream media.

And in America, not all ideas should be treated as equal.

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Divine Interventions

MickD — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:52:11 GMT

I didn't invent them, I'm just passin' along the link:

http://www.divine-interventions.com/index2.php

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Lieberman compares Hagee to Moses

Project_Mayhem — Wed, 28 May 2008 17:40:03 GMT

what a fucking lunatic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-ttnadMKf0

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Here they go again.......

Catseye — Fri, 30 May 2008 00:41:26 GMT

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/38820.html

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Who Was This Jesus Guy Anyway?

Bill_Dunlap — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:43:25 GMT

http://softwarcraft.com/2008/05/24/what-was-jesus/

What Was Jesus

by By: Widget in Humor & Tech

There were 3 good arguments that Jesus could have been Black:

1. He called everyone “brother”
2. He liked Gospel
3. He couldn’t get a fair trial.

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish:

1. He went into His Fathers business.
2. He lived at home until he was 33.
3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his mother was sure he was God.

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus could have been Italian:

1. He talked with his hands.
2. He had wine with every meal.
3. He used olive oil.

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus could have been a Californian:

1. He never cut his hair.
2. He walked around barefoot all the time.
3. He started a new religion.

But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus could have been Irish:

1. He never got married.
2. He was always telling stories.
3. He loved green pastures.

But the most compelling evidence of all - 3 proofs that Jesus could have been a woman:

1. He fed a crowd at a moment’s notice when there was no food.
2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn’t get it.
3. And even when He was dead, He had to get up because there was more work to do.

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Pilots run out of fuel, pray, land near Jesus sign

Project_Mayhem — Fri, 30 May 2008 21:53:37 GMT

LMAO

WELLINGTON, New Zealand - It seemed like an almost literal answer to their prayers. When two New Zealand pilots ran out of fuel in a microlight airplane they offered prayers and were able to make an emergency landing in a field — coming to rest right next to a sign reading, "Jesus is Lord."

Grant Stubbs and Owen Wilson, both from the town of Blenheim on the country's South Island, were flying up the sloping valley of Pelorus Sound when the engine spluttered, coughed and died.

"My friend and I are both Christians so our immediate reaction in a life-threatening situation was to ask for God's help," Stubbs told The Associated Press on Wednesday

full story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24765324/

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'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Krampus — Mon, 12 May 2008 14:32:52 GMT

'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/11/iraq.humanrights

Two weeks ago, The Observer revealed how 17-year-old student Rand Abdel-Qader was beaten to death by her father after becoming infatuated with a British soldier in Basra. In this remarkable interview, Abdel-Qader Ali explains why he is unrepentant - and how police backed his actions. Afif Sarhan in Basra and Caroline Davies report.

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Papa Pilgrim dies in jail, unrepentant and alone

crisco_in_the_lbc — Mon, 26 May 2008 14:59:53 GMT

Papa Pilgrim dies in jail, unrepentant and alone
ROBERT HALE: Family patriarch was serving 14 year term for abuse.

By TOM KIZZIA
tkizzia@adn.com

Published: May 26th, 2008 12:08 AM
Last Modified: May 26th, 2008 04:35 AM

He came to Alaska at the head of a sprawling, picturesque clan -- the last true wilderness family, as he put it when he battled the local park rangers. Robert Hale presented himself as a pious, Scripture-thumbing patriarch who just wanted to raise his 15 children far from the sin and temptations of the modern world. He settled in the mountains near McCarthy and called himself Papa Pilgrim.

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Robert Hale said God directed him to lead his family to live at a remote homestead.

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Hale was revealed in the end as a manipulative tyrant who kept his family illiterate and twisted his Bible teaching to justify torture and the violent sexual abuse of his oldest daughter.

He used to pray with his family that they all would die together. It was his "number one prayer," the children testified in court. Acquaintances once worried the prayer foretold a horrible cultlike suicide pact.

But on Saturday night, Hale died alone in an Anchorage jail. He was just months into a 14-year sentence for rape, coercion and incest.

Hale, 67, had been in poor health for years, and went into more rapid decline after his arrest in late 2005. At his sentencing last November, Hale's lawyer said he was being treated for advanced cirrhosis, diabetes and blood clots.

The family, now living in the Palmer area, is thriving in work, school and marriage.

"We felt we did all we could to reach out to him to get him to repent," said Joseph Hale, the eldest son, on Sunday. "But we have no reason to believe he repented before God."

Contact with his family had been limited by court order. Hale's wife, Kurina, and his five oldest sons were admitted to the jail for short visits Saturday. Hale was fading and unresponsive, the family said.

Jail staff said that when Hale was asked in his final days if he had anything to say to his family, he became silent and wouldn't talk, Joseph Hale said.

"To be honest, it's a relief that he will meet his destiny and we can go on in life without the burden of worrying about praying for him and where he stands before God," Joseph said.

Hale died about 9 p.m. in the medical segregation unit of the Anchorage Correctional Complex, where he had been in hospice care, according to the state Department of Corrections.

MAGNETIC PERSONALITY

It was the end of a remarkable journey that led from the wealthy suburbs of Fort Worth, Texas, through the '60s world of hippie communes and Jesus freaks, to a remote New Mexico ranch where Hale hid out with his fourth wife and built a family that revolved around him and his own interpretations of the Bible. His family lived in hardscrabble poverty, but they were taught to rub his feet, serve him special meals and call him "Lord."

Bobby Hale was known for a magnetic personality and a way with words even when he was a young man in Texas.

He was the son of I.B. Hale, an All-America football star and famed FBI agent. The Hale family were close friends with the family of soon-to-be governor John Connally. As a teenager, Connally later wrote, Bobby exerted a strange influence on his own teenaged daughter, Kathleen. When Bobby was 17, he and Kathleen eloped -- and he was alone with her two weeks later when she was shot fatally. A coroner's jury could find no evidence to conclude it was anything but an accident, but the Connally family blamed Bobby.

In 1962, Bobby and his twin brother were identified by the FBI as taking part in a break-in against Judith Exner, the mob-connected mistress of President John F. Kennedy. The event was later described, by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh, as a possible presidential blackmail scheme involving the boys' father, who had gone to work in security for the defense contractor General Dynamics. An investigation was dropped after the president was assassinated.

A footloose hippie decade followed: two more marriages, work in transcendental meditation and travel abroad for the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a role as male midwife on a commune, and eventually a born-again conversion. Hale also spent a week on the ranch of cult-leader Charles Manson, but the two men clashed, according to the mother of Kurina Bresler, the 16-year-old girl who would become his fourth wife and the mother of the Pilgrim clan.

'PREACHER BOB'

Hale was living at a hot spring in the California desert when he met Kurina in 1974. He later described the moment as a holy vision of the girl half his age who would bear him many children.

For many years, the growing family of "Preacher Bob" lived in the remote Sangre de Cristo Mountains of New Mexico, caretaking a high-country ranch owned by the actor Jack Nicholson. They left New Mexico in 1998 as the modern world was closing in, with new neighbors and curious police officers.

After several years bouncing around Alaska, they reached McCarthy in 2002.

Now known as the bluegrass-performing Pilgrim Family, they settled on an inholding inside Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and quickly became embroiled in an access battle with the National Park Service involving a bulldozer and a collapsed mining road. Hale's stand made him a hero for national property rights groups, though his McCarthy neighbors, liberal and conservative alike, soon tired of his self-righteous and demanding presence.

The family burst apart in 2005 after befriending another large Christian family from Palmer, the Buckinghams, who showed the Hale children another way of living. Hale reacted by locking up his oldest daughter in a shack in McCarthy and brutally raping her over several days, an incident later described in court.

The older children and Kurina turned against Hale, the Buckinghams brought the children to the Alaska State Troopers, and Hale was arrested after a two-week manhunt. The children later apologized to their McCarthy neighbors.

UNREPENTANT TO THE END

At his sentencing last November, Hale's children spoke one after another, describing years of torment at their father's hands. They agonized over never having seen past his threats of hellfire to uncover his own sexual abuses. They described his angry outbursts, his drinking, his "corrections" on the whipping barrel, and his teaching that it was OK to steal, poach game and lie to authorities.

"You taught all your children that wickedness was right," said one daughter in court that day. Another said he had used Biblical principles "to support your own lustful desires."

A son cited words from the last page of the Bible, a warning from Revelations about misusing Scripture: "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Hale, the silver-tongued innocent as always, denied everything in a three-hour courtroom defense. He blamed his wife and threatened "eternal judgment" on his accusers. He cringed, he begged his children to recant. "Now and then a man goes astray and open arms should await his return," he whimpered. There was not a moist eye in the court.

A private burial is being planned, with no date or place yet decided, the family said Sunday.

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Another Nut

crisco_in_the_lbc — Sat, 24 May 2008 18:32:03 GMT

What I saw last night was nuts

"According to a number of sources, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is planning to bring his first reactor on line sometime in September 2008, which is just about in line with what the Israeli Mossad had estimated back in 2003 when the full extent of Iran's secret nuclear program became known.

The Iranian announcement came on the heels of a surprise announcement by the government of Israel confirming it had entered into third-party peace talks with Syria's Bashar Assad. The surprising confirmation on Wednesday was the first acknowledged contact between the two parties in eight years, which will be mediated by Turkey. Equally surprising was a statement from the United States saying it had no objection to the talks. Previously, the U.S. had rejected any peace overtures toward Syria as long as it was sponsoring Hezbollah and Hamas. In fact, President Bush seemed to have been blindsided by the news. According to transcripts of an interview he granted to the Jerusalem Post, Bush responded to the news by stammering; "I expect an explanation, but I'm – he made a decision that he made – or no decisions have been made, except the idea of trying to get some dialogue moving, which is – and I know him well, and know that he is as concerned about Israeli security as any other person that's ever been the prime minister of Israel. And so I presume the decision is made."" (http://hallindsey.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1)

I actually wrote them and ask them to produce the documents that they use. When I see stuff like this, I do not counter them. I just want to inspect the source documents they use to write that post. I am an auditor by trade and if you make these claims, than hand over the damn documents.

I actually told them that I would leak to Moyers or Amy Goodman to expose this guy. And I can do this. I can just write an e-mail to Goodman or Moyer's people about this guy and if they think it is a good story, they would cover it. And the last thing this guy wants to deal with Bill Moyer.

Wow. I did that. Whoa Nellie!

This is guy is not lightweight. I took on Hal Lindsey. .One of the big boy Bible Prophecy guys. I wrote an e-mail and stated my point. In this era, people have the contact button. I use it.

And making this type of claim, you will be challenged..

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Vatican: It's ok to believe in aliens

Project_Mayhem — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:10:40 GMT

LOL

VATICAN CITY - The Vatican's chief astronomer says that believing in aliens does not contradict faith in God.

The Rev. Jose Gabriel Funes, the Jesuit director of the Vatican Observatory, said that the vastness of the universe means it is possible there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones.

In an interview published Tuesday by Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, Funes said that such a notion "doesn't contradict our faith" because aliens would still be God's creatures

full story at link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24598508/

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Religious belief on the Aussie 2001 Census

Krampus — Wed, 14 May 2008 21:52:52 GMT

From Jesus Christ to Jedi Knight – validity and viability of new religious movements in late modernity

Debra McCormick
School of Social and Political Enquiry
Monash University Victoria
http://eprints.qut.edu.au/archive/00006636/01/6636.pdf

Abstract
In 2001, a widely distributed email urged people to indicate ‘Jedi’ (from the movie Star Wars) as their religious affiliation on the National Census to be undertaken that year. The email, which may have originated from a prank, stated that if large enough numbers of people declared an affiliation to Jedi, the government would be forced to include it as a religion in future censuses. More than 70,000 Australians and 390,000 Britons heeded the call to action and recorded Jedi as their religion in the 2001 census. While the majority of people claiming affiliation to Jedism probably did so in a spirit of fun and/or rebellion, research suggests there are members of society who take the ‘religion’ quite seriously. The introduction and establishment of new religious beliefs once reliant on migration or trade is now facilitated by a global sharing of ideas through mass media and communications technology. Using Jediism and the events surrounding the 2001 National Census in Australia, Britain and New Zealand as examples, this paper explores the legality of new religious movements and; the
question of whether the study of a religion based on popular culture can provide relevant discourse on late modern religious environments, attitudes, and participation or if it should simply be dismissed as a passing fad. The results of this research will contribute to the body of knowledge relating to changes in religious affiliation in Australia.

I thought the Jedi-ism part was funny.

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McCain's "Spirtiual Advisor" Worse Than Obama's

Wizzard — Thu, 08 May 2008 19:05:35 GMT

If you want to get a look at Fundie arrogance and stupidity at its worst (I hope it's the worst), check out this video of the man John McCain calls a "great spiritual advisor".

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/38133-mccain-s-spiritual-guide-wants-america-to-destroy-islam?utm_source=rgemail

I'm sorry, but this is worse than any nonsense the Catholics have tried to shove at us. This clown actually believes (or claims to believe) that the USA was founded to oppose and eventually destroy Islam. He almost makes bin Laden seem like a moderate.

Of course, this would help to explain why McCain has no problem with keeping troops in the Middle-east for the next century or so.

With love under will,

Bob, Adastra,
The Wizzard of Jacksonville

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Diabetes a "Test of Faith" or a "Spiritual attack"

trouble-sturm — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:02:30 GMT

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2S4_VL61HrJgLKWc4HOixPEj4KAD90B5R7G0

Another failed faith healing.

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Red Letter Day

Wizzard — Sat, 17 May 2008 16:04:13 GMT

Rejoice, dear hearts. Today I have reached 666 profile views on Tribe. Hurrah! Today I am a bad, bad person!

Not that I have any particular superstitions about the number itself, of course; that's for the ignorant Christianoids. Six hundred three score and six is simply the solar number in occult studies and has a positive significance. Why it was chosen for the number of the name of the beast is anyone's guess (and pretty much everyone has guessed at one time or another). The idea that this number is peculiar to Satan is hogwash. The "Beast" of Revelation is not the Devil, for one thing his number is "the number of a man" , not the number of a mythical fallen angel. And yes, Aleister Crowley appropriated this number for his own; it still bothers me how many people take this at face value as measured by their own limited understanding and believe he was declaring some kind of Satanism by it. They have utterly failed to notice that he emphasized the positive side of the symbolism, not the negative. They also fail to notice that he was laughing at their ignorance.

Some people never learn--and the first thing they fail to learn is how to pay attention.

With love under will,

Bob, Adastra,
The Wizzard of Jacksonville

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Huckabee wants to run as McCain's Veep.

Mon, 19 May 2008 07:09:54 GMT

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/16321249/detail.html?rss=ny&psp=nationalnews

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Boy, fundie's don't like Sarah Mclachlan

AsherahsDaddy — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:57:37 GMT

What a bunch of dumbasses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83hfW2bjmM&feature=related

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