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"“Although the maximum extension of survival time varied between experiments, the effect was quite robust. On average, 77 percent of the worms exposed to H2S outlived the untreated worms,” Roth said. The mean life span of worms grown in an atmosphere laced with hydrogen sulfide was 9.6 days greater than that of the untreated population, a longevity increase of 70 percent.

Most genes that influence life span in C. elegans act on one of three genetic pathways: those that control insulin/IGF (insulin growth factor) signaling, those that control mitochondrial function and those that modulate the effects of dietary restriction.

Roth and colleagues ruled out hydrogen sulfide’s influence on each of these pathways. Instead, they suspect it acts through a different mechanism. One theory is that exposure to H2S naturally regulates the activity of a gene called SIR-2.1, which has been shown to influence life span in many organisms, including the nematode.
Previous studies have found that over-expression of this gene increases the longevity of C. elegans by 18 percent to 20 percent."

In other words... If you are going to live 100 years, it would extend your life to 170... If you are say 50-60 or younger, you will be alive in 2110, by which time there will have been enough advanced in age extension that you could live for another 1000, or at least 500. By 2610 you should be able to have extensions to live to be 1000 easy. By 3010 you should be able to live for tens of thousands... BTW the Buddha Maitreya is said to manifest when Humans live for 80,000 years... Most Buddhists think this will be sometime in the Year 3000...
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    Sat, August 28, 2010 - 6:51 PM
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      Sat, August 28, 2010 - 6:51 PM
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        Sat, August 28, 2010 - 6:57 PM
        not bad, but durk pearson so far ahead of him
        i have yet to read of another that even came close to him and sandy shaw
        the book: LIFE EXTENSION
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          Sat, August 28, 2010 - 7:00 PM
          Add this to greatest best seller ever by diamonds:
          FIT FOR LIFE
          and you can learn more than you have understood
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            Sun, August 29, 2010 - 6:32 PM
            "and you can learn more than you have understood "
            More than I can Understand? I doubt that.
            And as far as that goes, I have been researching Life Extension for a very long time. I know some insiders on the Telomerase experiments. The hush hush ones... Anyway... We already have clinical immortality. The super rich will be able to get it in less than 5 years... Some high ups in the Military Industrial Complex probably already have it. As well as high ups in the Club of Rome...
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              Sun, August 29, 2010 - 6:36 PM
              For us "Surfs", Bee Pollen, Royal Jelly and Goji Berries would allow one to extend life 30-50 years. Of course eating foods rich in anti-oxidants, omega 3, DHA, and Organic Raw Food Diet helps. Also eating smaller meals (Which you will find is all you need when you live on super-foods). Good genetics helps too. People on both sides of my family tend to live 90-100+...
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              Sun, August 29, 2010 - 6:40 PM
              Sorry, or more than I "have Understood"... I doubt that very much too.
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                Sun, August 29, 2010 - 6:51 PM
                gee, when you can come close to durk pearson/sandy shaw
                have you got anything before 1983 that you wrote or even researched?
                then what about 1987: fit for life
                these 2 books stand at the top
                so what it took me a good ten years just to begin to understand what they presented
                and then when you begin to look at the appendex or bibliography of each book
                and begin to read where they sourced
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                  Wed, September 1, 2010 - 12:15 PM
                  "have you got anything before 1983 that you wrote or even researched? "

                  Date of research have nothing to do with anything. In fact the more recent research, or researching recently, is more pertinent information has a tenancy to compound.

                  "so what it took me a good ten years just to begin to understand what they presented "

                  Really? I understood it on the first read.

                  "then when you begin to look at the appendex or bibliography of each book
                  and begin to read where they sourced "

                  Yeah, I read most of their sources before I read them (Durk Pearson & Sandy Shaw).
                  Like I said. I am extremely well studied on the matter.
                  My main point, is not to assume. You should instead ask.

                  And I am sure you are aware of their products? www.life-enhancement.com/category.asp

                  Don't forget that native cultures have long known of ways to extend life. Modern Science is just now catching up.
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                    Wed, September 1, 2010 - 12:17 PM
                    Anyway, I try to be humble, then people have to try to challenge me. Grrr
                    Ruins the whole humble approach.
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    Wed, September 1, 2010 - 3:26 PM
    'most buddhists think that people will live til 80,000 in the year 3000'?

    LMAO!

    besides the comment not being remotely true..

    how exactly will you know that humans will live to 80000 unless humans already have lived til 80,000?...
    which would mean it would need to be the gregorianesque year 83000... no?
    or do I misunderstand you? ;)
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      Wed, September 1, 2010 - 4:36 PM
      "'most buddhists think that people will live til 80,000 in the year 3000'?"

      Ummm... NO... I did not say that. I don't even see how you read it that way...

      I said.
      "BTW the Buddha Maitreya is said to manifest when Humans live for 80,000 years... Most Buddhists think this will be sometime in the Year 3000..."

      Both of which ARE TRUE.

      "According to the Cakkavatti Sutta: The Wheel-turning Emperor, Digha Nikaya 26 of the Sutta Pitaka of the Pāli Canon), Maitreya Buddha will be born in a time when humans will live to an age of eighty thousand years, in the city of Ketumatī (present Benares), whose king will be the Cakkavattī Sankha."

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya
      www.basicbuddhism.org/index.cfm

      "Buddhist tradition divides the period between the death of Buddha and the manifestation of Maitreya in the actual universe into three divisions of time:
      I) Period of 500 years, 'the turning of the Wheel of the first Law'.
      II) Period of 1,000 years, period of deterioration of 'the law of images' [Sadharma pratirupaka].
      III) Period of 3000 years, 'the turning of the Wheel of the second Law', after which Maitreya will leave the Tushita heaven and come upon earth to 'establish the lost truths in all their purity.'"

      "Days of Dharma, Three Periods of Law
      In Buddhist lore, the Days of the Dharma (Buddhist Law) are divided into three periods, called the Three Periods of Law (Jp. = 三時 Sanji, Shōzōmatsu, Shozomatsu). There are various schemes used to represent the Days of the Dharma, with varying lengths for each period, but the below scheme is commonly recognized in Japan. Below text gives the Japanese spellings.

      1. First Phase. The Age of Shōbō (Shobo) 正法, which lasts 1,000 years following the death of the Historical Buddha, whose death was generally given as 949 BC in the old calendar. The first phase symbolizes the Turning of the Wheel of the Law (a metaphor for teaching the way to enlightenment); the first phase refers to the spread and acceptance of Buddhist teachings; sometimes known as the “Age of Correct Law,” it was considered a golden age, when followers had the capacity to understand and practice the Buddhist teachings.

      2. Second Phase. The Age of Zōbō (Zobo) 象法, which lasts 1,000 years; during this period the practice of the Law begins to deteriorate. Also called the “Age of Copied Law” or the “Age of the Imitation Law.”

      3. Last Phase. The Age of Mappō (Mappo) 末法, which lasts 3,000 years; during this period, the practice of the Law declines until no one follows the Buddhist tenets; also called the “Age of the Decline of the Law.”

      NOTE: Says scholar Robert E. Morrell, in his wonderful book “Kamakura Buddhism, A Minority Report:” Asian Humanities Press, Berkeley, California, 1987; ISBN 0-89581-849-3: "

      It could be argued that the Buddhist Year 3000 happened on the Gregorian Year 1973...

      "Claude Vorilhon (Raël) - claims that, in 1973, he was visited by extraterrestrial beings who informed him that he was to found a movement which would bring the world to a new enlightenment. Published his first book in 1973, concerning the alleged encounter. The International Raelian Movement currently has approximately 60,000 followers in 86 countries worldwide. Claims to be Maitreya, based on evidence such as the traditional year of Maitreya's arrival, the Buddhist year 3000. There are two calendars in Buddhism, corresponding to the Northern branch (1973 CE = "Northern" Buddhist year 3000) and Southern branch (1973 CE = "Southern" Buddhist year 2417). Other support for Raël's claim includes ancient Buddhist wall carvings allegedly depicting drawings of the arrival of UFOs in the mountains. According to the Raelian Movement, Rael's encounters with extraterrestrials took place in an inactive volcano which he had previously frequented."

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._claimants

      And that we are in the Era that Maitreya will manifest. Maitreya however, is not supposed to reign until the Satya Yuga. Which we are clearly not in yet. Many things about the year could be argued. It IS, however, generally excepted by Most Buddhists that it will be sometime in the year 3000. I suppose I could find more references for you that you can check....

      "how exactly will you know that humans will live to 80000 unless humans already have lived til 80,000?...
      which would mean it would need to be the gregorianesque year 83000... no?
      or do I misunderstand you? ;) "

      Obviously you did misunderstand me, and mis-quoted me.

      Humans have Lived 80,000 years before. Look to the Sumerian Kings List...
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List
      Though the longest Reigns of Kings were 28,000 years... I do not think Earth Humans have lived to 80,000 yet, But Galactic Humans have/do.

      As for the Gregorian Year? What does that have to do with anything. That is a recent Calendar "It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582"
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

      So only if the fictional character called "Jesus" died 82,000 years ago would it be 83,000 on the Gregorian. Remember what it is Timing. It is the year 5770 on the Hebrew Calendar. See my point. Gregorian has nothing to do with anything.

      September, 2010
      [Tibetan Year: 2137 | Buddha Era: 2554 B.E. | Kalachakra Year: 2067]
      Name of Tibetan year: Iron Tiger Year of the 17th Rabjung Cycle
      www.utbf.org/en/resources/calendar/

      As you see the Buddhist Calendar does not equal the same year as the Gregorian...
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        Wed, September 1, 2010 - 4:42 PM
        ""BTW the Buddha Maitreya is said to manifest when Humans live for 80,000 years... Most Buddhists think this will be sometime in the Year 3000..." "

        BTW these are both in reference to the Reign of Maitreya. I am NOT saying that "Most Buddhist think people will live until 80,000 in the year 3000."

        I am saying:
        Maitreya is said to manifest when Humans live for 80,000 years.
        Most Buddhists think this will be (Manifestation of Maitreya) sometime in the year 3000.

        I do personally believe Earth Humans will live for 80,000 years in the year 3000. Gregorian Year even. I am a Buddhist. Along with my traditional Lakota Practices and philosophies.
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          Wed, September 1, 2010 - 5:01 PM
          we are clashing over imprecise use of language.

          the reason I laughed is because you won't know if people are living for 80,000 years when the year 3000 arrives..
          it will be the year 83,000 when you know that.. ;0)
          so that would mean that if one of the alignments to keep an eye on for maitreya is 'when people live for 80,000 years' then there would be no way to qualify that maitreya were maitreya (based on that alignment) until 83,000..

          I appreciate its not as simple as that..
          and I see things totally differently anyway..
          and that's fine.
          I just get frustrated with the hugely limiting consciousness patterns of religions.

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            Wed, September 1, 2010 - 5:04 PM
            "The disappearance of Attainments, the disappearance of Method, the disappearance of Learning, the disappearance
            of the Symbols [the outward forms] and the disappearance of the Relics ... . "

            that much is true.
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              Wed, September 1, 2010 - 5:12 PM
              I feel a need to further explain.

              when prophecies of this nature are made, they are made based on the understanding in that moment, at that 'time' or 'state' of understanding...
              this does not make them absolutely accurate.

              there is a reason why the dissapearances are mentioned in relation to maitreya.. and there is a reason why the character is westernised with feet hanging down.. it is because of the understanding of energy, evolution and karmic balance that was realised, upon which the prophecy was made. the understanding was of the nature of experience and mind and so forth.. and understandings of the hows and why's of ignorance and comprehension.

              the prophecies are a reflection of what was envisioned to be the end result of the evolution of understanding and the karmic balancing.

              however.

              time was not fully understood.
              and enlightenment was not truly recognised for what it is.

              did I study buddhism to know this?
              I read about 20 pages of a standard reference.
              and it came back to me in no time at all.

              maitreya is now.
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                Wed, September 1, 2010 - 11:53 PM
                "maitreya is now. "

                Well, as I have stated already, Maitreya (yes a living breathing Earth Human), Could be alive now. He will not become the next Buddha until the Next World Age AKA Satya Yuga or in other words, not until after 2012. Maitreya was never considered to be an era. You are welcome to your opinion. It is not held by Most Buddhists or very many others period. However there IS an Era in which he is considered to manifest. We are living in that Era.

                I do agree that Enlightenment is not truly recognized for what it is, by most.
                Time is still not fully understood, by most.
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                  Thu, September 2, 2010 - 12:18 AM
                  Time is a field of vibration, similar to other fields like EMF and Gravity. It is one of the many fields in unified field theory that create/manifest the physical universe. This field, like others, can be transversed and reversed. Or simply bypassed by going to a higher vibrational density of mater, outside of time. (however not yet outside of space, so not yet transcendental.) This means that Time as a Field of Manifestation can be bypassed and Time Travel is simply for any being that can do this. This is part of the Rainbow Body Manifestation of Buddhism. This is what certain Craft (UFOs) can do. This is hyper-dimensional physics. What is more impressive is bypassing Light. Which is 5th Dimensional in it's nature. Time is only 4th. Space continues from 3rd to 12th.

                  OKay now I am getting out there... Must be getting late. I hope I did not let too much slip and have to deal with things that are unpleasant do to that. There are many beings that do not want this type of information out there and they control this planet currently, but not for much longer. They have already lost most of their grip and many/most have left via portal technology. But that is another story for another time and another thread. You can find a lot of that in my blogs and in conversations I had with Mia, who left... due to pressure from said groups... She was a MILAB. I hope I did not get her into trouble. She could get out if she wanted to. (In Case she is still around watching...)
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                    Thu, September 2, 2010 - 12:22 AM
                    Matter*
                    Simple*
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                      Thu, September 2, 2010 - 12:25 AM
                      Like I said... My Typos are Frequent. My Usage of the Language is precise. I can't blame my keyboard this time... Proof reading would help. I tend to do it after the submit button is clicked... LOL
                      Though, I do think that Tribe Fucks with me on purpose. I could swear I typed it differently, but then it alters it. LOL
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            Wed, September 1, 2010 - 11:44 PM
            "the reason I laughed is because you won't know if people are living for 80,000 years when the year 3000 arrives..
            it will be the year 83,000 when you know that.. ;0) "

            No... If cells continue reproduce continuously, They reproduce continuously. In other words. Once Clinical Immortality is Achieved 80,000 years is merely a choice of the being in question. This has already been achieved. At least in-vitro. By the year 3000, it will be a choice for all people.

            What you seem to fail to realize it the prophesy itself. Regardless of whether people HAVE lived that long, they have the potential to. I am precise in my usage of the language, other than my typos, which are frequent. I understand your current argument. I do not agree with it. Expectant life span IS the life span regardless if you have lived that long as of yet. That is the context of the prophecy and what I was using. It DID NOT say that humans HAVE lived for life spans of 80,000 years, but that they would be CAPABLE of doing so.

            I get frustrated with the hugely limiting consciousness patterns of religions as well... Buddhism is not a Religion, it is a philosophy, and has done more for the expansion of consciousness than any other force on Earth (For Earth Humans) outside of Evolution and Ethnogens.
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              Thu, September 2, 2010 - 5:23 AM
              "No... If cells continue reproduce continuously, They reproduce continuously. In other words. Once Clinical Immortality is Achieved 80,000 years is merely a choice of the being in question. This has already been achieved. At least in-vitro. By the year 3000, it will be a choice for all people. "

              it is and always has been a choice right now. immortality is NOT born in a laboratory. you will find that there are ways and means for a spirit to die even if the body lives. there must be loving acceptance and karmic balance (no karmic actions) for such existence incarnationally; we are NOT the machines many scienctists appear to think we are.

              "Buddhism is not a Religion"

              I disagree. BUDDHA is not a religion.. and not a philosophy.
              Buddhism is both a philosophy and also in many cases a religion.
              the definitions in use determine the understanding and use of the words, thus we will not reach understanding without sharing of definitions... and my definitions are not the ones commonly in use on earth at this timing..
              philosophy = 'not knowing'.
              religion = 'repeatedly not knowing and being inflexible in that not knowing'.
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                Thu, September 2, 2010 - 1:30 PM
                Indeed. We are all capable of being immortal. It always has been a choice. There is no argument there. (Which you seem to want argue awfully bad right now, I am not sure why). Nope was not born in a laboratory.
                Thoth was the First Truly Immortal Earth Human (Body and Soul).
                I am not just talking about your Soul... BTW Soul and Spirit are two different things. Everyone is Born with Spirit, A Soul you must cultivate. Otherwise everyone would reincarnate, which they do not.
                We are not our bodies. Our Bodies ARE Machines.
                Anything can be made into a religion, that does not make it as a whole a religion.
                Interesting definitions.
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          Thu, September 2, 2010 - 12:07 AM
          "BTW the Buddha Maitreya is said to manifest when Humans live for 80,000 years... Most Buddhists think this will be sometime in the Year 3000."

          See, I do not say "HAVE" lived for 80,000 years.
          But that they do/can. Life Span, not life lived. That is what the sutras say.
          BTW, that is all I am saying to begin with... That this is SAID about Maitreya's manifestation... Which is all in reference to the other thread on 2012 uncensored about "Another one claims to be the "Buddha Maitreya"".

          tribes.tribe.net/2012the-e...c29edd9a99

          Om A Ra Pa Ca Na Dhih, Dhih, Dhih
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        Wed, September 1, 2010 - 4:47 PM
        Heck, there is obviously a bit of debate as to which "Buddhist Year" it even is. Southern? Northern? Tibetan? LOL
        Regardless, Miss quote out of context = not what I said or meant.
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        Wed, September 1, 2010 - 4:58 PM
        "Maitreya is a bodhisattva revered by Buddhists of most schools. His name derives from the Sanskrit word maitri meaning caring or "loving-kindness" (in Pali, metta.) He is one of the few deities depicted in paryanka asana -- seated with legs hanging, like a Westerner. He is currently believed to be functioning in the Tushita heaven, and will be born on earth for the benefit of beings 4, 000 years [or 5, 000, according to another source] after the passing of Shakyamuni Buddha.

        A scriptural source for this date is Shakyamuni's response to Shariputra's questions (The Surangama Sutra.) He responded that Maitreya would appear before the last of The Five Disappearances:

        The disappearance of Attainments, the disappearance of Method, the disappearance of Learning, the disappearance
        of the Symbols [the outward forms] and the disappearance of the Relics ... .

        And, regarding that last disappearance:

        Then when the Dharma of the Perfect Buddha is 5,000 years old, the relics, not receiving reverence and honor, will go to places where they can be received ... . "

        www.khandro.net/deity_maitreya.htm

        "Siddhārtha Gautama (Sanskrit: सिद्धार्थ गौतम; Pali: Siddhattha Gotama) was a spiritual teacher from ancient India who founded Buddhism.[1] In most Buddhist traditions, he is regarded as the Supreme Buddha (P. sammāsambuddha, S. samyaksaṃbuddha) of our age, "Buddha" meaning "awakened one" or "the enlightened one." [note 1] The time of his birth and death are uncertain: most early 20th-century historians dated his lifetime as c. 563 BCE to 483 BCE[2], but more recent opinion may be dating his death to between 411 and 400 BCE"

        483 BCE or 543 BCE...

        So 3500 or so for the 4000 year school and 4500 or so for the 5000 year school of thought.
        As I said it is debatable. However, MOST Buddhist think it will be "sometime" in the year 3000.
        Especially Tibetan Buddhists.

        Okay I got other things to do. I suggest you research it more on your own.

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