In my experience, I have found many of the ladies find Ghede uncouth and rude.
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Fri, February 15, 2008 - 2:48 PMWhat is a Ghede -
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Fri, February 15, 2008 - 5:27 PMCrystal,
Ghedes are a family of lwa, which you may know as Baron, Samedehe etc
These are the Graveyard spirits and known for their Humour above all else.
In Haiti Ghede has many family members such as Criminale the Ghede who punishes criminals after Death. -
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Fri, February 15, 2008 - 6:05 PMI think it depends on temperment and company. Gede has always been with me, and i have plenty of female friends that adore his company and attention and attitude. -
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Sat, February 16, 2008 - 12:53 AMTravis,
Thank you. I too have a good relationship with this Lwa and find him to be fine. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:39 AMI love all the lwa's ..they all have a way with us.........they all play a part in our life ..one time or another...Ghede??;-) he's a sweet heart...i think hes always playing tricks on me..for what ever reason?? i dont know...?(LOL) but i know he holds some thing for me to learn....theres many storys and myths..regarding these lwa's even Ghede...good storys and bad...but all r lessons...making us understand ..we are not perfect..the Ghede family are very strong but very understanding when respected and understood..but i do understand what u mean Glenn..i have notice many men are drawn to ghede..i must of been a man in another life that never finished my mission with him....;-) cuz he is still on my tail(LOL)..but theres so much beauty to it.... -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 7:56 AMCC Thanks, I just find him to be a bit of a mans man, very rude in his humour yet when you see it is so funny as he treats all the same. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:14 AMI know what u mean....;-) whats crazy is that many will find him to be rude...i dont...(LOL) call me weird..i just love this lwa;s form of being...wanna know something crazy..he's so rude and nasty and has many other scarey things..but this is also a lwa's that protects small childen...he loves kids...Ghede dosent like small kids to die....he feels they need to live life..so he protects them from death it self...isnt that crazy..a lwa;s so feared and many that are scared of..has love for children..thats beautifull. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:16 AMpapa was behind the most successful storming of papa doc's personal mansion. over 100 gede showed up, to bust in his house, and demand his rum and cigars! -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:18 AMwow..travis...that i didnt know...plesae do share more. -
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Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:31 AMi will try and find the account and post it. it is a famous scene!
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Tue, February 19, 2008 - 6:44 PMThis is supernew to me so please excuse my ignorance for I am in infancy to a new and mystifying world but would it be safe for me to compare it to a cross between Elegua... Egun... and the Ibeji. -
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Tue, February 19, 2008 - 8:56 PMno, it would not be accurate, Papa Gede- Les Gede's are all descended from the first Gede- Gede Nibbo, who originally comes from Zaire, and the Ndemba cult. While Papa is depicted as a New World lwa, he is not. He is one of the original 16 Vodu, direct from Afrika. -
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Tue, February 19, 2008 - 8:57 PMHe does, however, share the Red and Black temple rays that ellegua also uses.
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Wed, February 20, 2008 - 3:25 PMTravis are the original 16 the Petro and Rada Lwa found in Haitian Tradition ? -
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Wed, February 20, 2008 - 7:54 PMboth temple rays- red/black - white/blue belong to the 16 primal lwa. One needs to draw a strick line between secular voudou and esoteric voudou. The dominican voudou discussed and linked to here, is exactly the same taught to me by my godfather years ago as esoteric voudou.
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Wed, February 20, 2008 - 8:22 AMcrstal..i do understand what u mean...but i would agree with travis...they may act the same in some paths..but their not alike at all.
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 11:46 AMNooooooooooooo many women have ghedes spirit usually u can tell when a woman has a ghede shell be loud will tell u the truth very sexual -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 12:19 PMthank u for shareing that with us lola..;-) but do explain....u stated ..they will tell u the truth very sexualy? -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 8:43 PMsorry I was in a hurry and forgot to put in the comma well women who carry Guedes are just the counterpart to the male versions they act in the same way loud,crude,sexual,dirty jokes,rum drinkers, smoke cigars they can hang with the boys and hold their own, dominating yet want a man that can prove hes stronger than they are -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 8:26 AMLola,
sounds like good fun to me !
My kinda woman that Ghede one. -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 9:28 AM;-) glenn ur silly. -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 12:05 PMcc cmon now,
what man in his right mind would not a woman who drinks rum and smokes cigars, a woman who can dance and do vodou its the ultimate. -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 12:32 PMwow..u make me out to seem..PERFECT!!................(WINK).......;-) -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 7:14 PMlove is in the air
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 7:47 AMu r funny drun...;-)
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 12:00 AMCC
Almost perfect LOL -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 7:50 AMglenn..what u mean? almost perfect??(LOl)..........giggle-giggle...................;-) hay i see it this way..thats better then none...wanna know something crazy...ever since geting on this tribe...noticed alot more that beleave this path..or are studying to understand it..i've met so many people on line regarding the haitian path.....im also on mysanteria.com and santeria lucumi community..and more and more this hidden path is coming out... -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:19 AMI heard from a Houngan that there are about 11 million Vodouists worldwide !
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 12:47 PMwow..thats alot! and to think..those r just the ones we know about... -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 2:16 PMI don´t know about you there, but here i have three women friends that draw Ghede, specifically Ghede Limbo, whom is said to be the most sexual crude of the ghedes, and so they behave when they are mounted by him. So they are men when they have this ghede in "the head", and no a simple man, a bizarre man, lascivous, kinky, rude, sexually explicit, even i heard them say, "My d..ick is itching" (could you imagine that?). I know another woman that draws another ghedè, lui ghede, who is said to be Ghede Limbo brother, and when they are together they flirt with every woman that is at the voodoo party. -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 3:11 PMomg!!..;-) now that i never seen....and i've been around many lwa's...i've never seen ghede mounted..i work with him and know things..but never seen that..thats must look crazy..well to those that dont understand his nature.. -
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Wed, April 16, 2008 - 9:00 AMWell, i supose that you have never seen ghede mounted maybe because you live in USA, but here in Dominican Republica, is very often to see caballos de misterio que montan a Guedè, in fact Ghedes are one of the most popular forces in the dominican voudou, for both male and female "cheval de mysteres". -
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Wed, April 16, 2008 - 12:05 PMThe Horse of Mysteries !
Chris does this have anything to do with the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
I heard this is a good study guide for Vodouists.
CC Ghede mounting someone is the funniest moments you will ever have on a good day.
His Humour is crude yet funny and non stop then he gets serious, pigs aload of food in one mouthful and tries to talk with a mouth full of food. He is just the funniest of Lwa and cheers me up no end as he places no value on sex or death and sees both as Human Foolery. -
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Thu, April 17, 2008 - 3:49 PMYou are so funny Glenn, well let me guess if this has to do with the four apocalypse horsemen..... NAH!, but you are right ghedes are crude, and funny too, in their same way. And by the way, the next april 19th is the day of Saint Expedito, whom is the catholic saint (at least here in DR) for Guede Limbo, the most crude, happy, kinky, and yet popular of the Guedes, and in many altars and voodoo centers at least if they don´t throw a voodoo party, well everybody will honor that Loa. Oh my god you couldn´t imagine how sarcastic he can be, and how sexually explicit singing songs with sexual lyrics like "My bone is so big that goes form here to New York and comes back" (you understand that bone is other thing). -
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 2:58 PMthe guedes are hilarious to me! i saw a guede feel up a OLD ( 87 ) grandmother in a ceremony and i thought i would pee my pants it was so funny...she was trying to get away from him,she was hobbling with a cane,she had the panty hose rolled up to her knees and black lace up easy walkers, he was patiently pursuing her, rubbing on her booty and rolling his eyes...just hilarious!
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 3:12 PMomg!!! voodu doll are u 4 real??? -
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 4:17 PMyes! at a vodou guede party. i laughed so much i thought i was going to be put out of the house. the guy who was possessed was a young good looking man- of course that just added to the hilarity. everybody else was NOT laughing,they were trying to get out of his way,too!
grrll, i will go to my deathbed giggling about it..the grandma trying to hobble away from him with her cane and curly gray wig,he licking his lips and grinding his hips...too much!
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Mon, April 21, 2008 - 4:28 PMmy mama said guede's once walked up to some ladies and asked them "how are your vaginas doing today? " i hope they are happy and well petted!" -
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Tue, April 22, 2008 - 10:37 AM;-0 omg!!..but i also heard storys about him..but not so much in detale..(LOL) thats crazy..something like Anaisa...shes something like an Ezulie freda..but Anaisa dont hold anything back...they say she calls her-self a slut when she comes down and that theres no better then her in that subject..but shes good.when she speaks..girrrrrrrrrl.. dont get her mad..she will rtake out all ur dirty closth out the closet(LOL) -
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Fri, April 25, 2008 - 12:15 PMVodoudoll, are you from Dominican REpublic? -
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Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:10 AMno sugar...i am from the american south....north carolina. -
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Sun, April 27, 2008 - 9:48 AMOh, North Carolina, my parents are living there now, in Fayetteville. But they dislike anything related to voodoo. Anyway is good to know that you live there. -
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Ghedes/ dont like vodou?
Sun, April 27, 2008 - 7:01 PMare your parents military? i lived in fayetteville for twelve years...went to college there. my husband is a retired officer. but i grew up in wilmington, on the coast.
my family doesn't like vodou either...but i have never let anything stop me from being me ( and that aint always good,lol! )
but, here is a good arguing point if you ever need one: when people start giving me grief about vodou, i start rattling off these facts...it SHAMES them and gives me a platform to counter-attack...
haiti is the worlds first black republic
haiti won its freedom from slavery...in a really horrible,bloody war
haiti suffered from racism and fear afterwards...americans did not want anything to do with haiti afterwards,for fear they would inspire american blacks to revolt.
it was a country of slaves...they really needed help and still do.
and this trend continued...and that is how vodou and haiti got this really maligned,racially motivated hatred, hyped up by hollywood and the christian right.
america still hates haiti...take a look at the haitian refugees
the african slaves in the states were brutally beaten,whipped and killed for practicing traditional african faith
haiti retained theirs because they threw off the chains and kept as much of their african culture as they could
THEN ASK, are you going to perpetuate the lies and racism by hating a religion, one of the oldest in the world, that helped a nation be free?
this usually backs the most virulent opposer down, because no one wants to publically named a racist!
btw...i use this on black american haters,too!
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Sun, May 4, 2008 - 1:50 PMWow, i like your way you are very straight in your opinions, and i like that. No my parents are not military, they are dominicans, just like me, and now, since a couple of months ago, they are living in the US, in Fayetteville, with my sister, who is a christian religious woman as they are too. So they dislike. But i don´t matter, because i am me, and they are they.
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