Necessary reading

topic posted Wed, May 13, 2009 - 12:48 AM by  nigel
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Can anybody recommend any good books on a Steampunk theme?

I'll start with:
Micheal Moorcock's Warlord of the Air
Philip Reeve's Mortal Engine
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  • Re: Necessary reading

    Sat, June 6, 2009 - 6:05 AM
    I really enjoyed reading the "His Dark Materials" trilogy by Philip Pullman. It is less in the sci-fi and more on the fantasy side of things, but still has that feel to it. And I know it's technically "young adult" fiction, but I think it's mostly that the main characters are only 12, and there's a coming-of-age component, that puts it there. Without being vulgar or overly graphic, it really didn't feel dumbed-down or neutered for the sake of kids, and the plot really moves well. Made me cry a few times, too. I couldn't put it down and I'm 30, lol.

    Skip the movie "The Golden Compass", though, unless you just want the imagery (which is incredible), because I think they got some vital things wrong and kind of screwed up the ending really badly compared to the book. Drove me rather insane. Also, I didn't buy Nicole Kidman in that role at all, but that could be just me.
    • Re: Necessary reading

      Sat, June 6, 2009 - 10:19 PM
      I actually liked the movie better than the book, but I'm not sure I want to see the sequel(s). I couldn't finish the books, either.Too sad.
      But I loved the cinematography, and Nicole's out of context style-and I am Not a Nicole Kidman fan by any means.
      • Re: Necessary reading

        Sun, June 7, 2009 - 2:46 PM
        oh.... dear.

        Yes; the movie got it entirely wrong; reading the alethiometer was Lyra's intuitive ability / natural talent - not a mystical trance filled with psychedelia, but an innate understanding of the symbols and their relationships. That essential gaffe fairly enervated the rest of the story; the plot of the HDM trilogy makes no sense if her ability is a magical gimme - there's no reason or purpose behind any of the action if she needn't read the Golden Compass to learn any truth.



        No one's mentioned The Difference Engine (William Gibson and Bruce Sterling) which certainly seems a seminal steampunk and excellently rendered alt-history. Bonus points for revealing the insane and hellish consequences of a steampunk society.
  • Re: Necessary reading

    Mon, June 8, 2009 - 1:42 AM
    HIS DARK MATERIALS
    A work of true genius. I'm not ashamed to say I cried when Lee Scrby and Hester died. (I cried again when I heard it on the audio version) So many good ideas.
    The film was I'm afraid - pants. A typical Hollywood adaptation of a difficult subject. Lets fillet out all the contraversial stuff and go for a bland money maker. Shame it is the difficult content that makes the trilogy what it is.
  • Re: Necessary reading

    Mon, June 8, 2009 - 5:58 AM
    I'm reading China Mieville's The Scar right now. All his books are steampunk fiction. I really don't like the main character in this book, but the setting is fantastic.
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      Mon, June 8, 2009 - 7:25 AM
      I always get a strong sense of RPGs from Mieville. There's something about it that makes me think of him sitting around high with his friends rolling dice.

      Not that Perdido Street Station wasn't truly enjoyable.
      • Re: Necessary reading

        Mon, June 8, 2009 - 10:10 AM
        "The Growth of the Steam Engine" by Thurston. I picked this up at Dan Web Books in Oakland. The stuff people were building in the mid 1800's is as fantastic as anything in a historical fiction account. Example; there was a man named Gurney who built a steam carriage that used legs as the driving source, this was in 1827 and he drove it for two years about London ,sometimes going as many as 85 miles in 10 hrs out of town, including stops.
        In 1804 a man named Evans built the "Oruktor Amphibolis" a Amphibous steam boat with wheels and a paddle wheel and actualy used it.

        It is unfortunate that this book has been out of print since 1878 but I am going to scan some of the more unusual stuff and do a small handbook perhaps. There are at least a few good sci-fi books there.
  • Re: Necessary reading

    Tue, June 9, 2009 - 5:35 PM
    I'd go with Jay Lake's works... particularly the first two books he's released of his new series "Mainspring" & "Escapement"

    Though at any given moment, I can't always say I "love" these books... I still recommend them. They're fascinating.

    And I'm not just biased 'cos he's a local boy. *innocent blink*
  • Re: Necessary reading

    Tue, June 9, 2009 - 11:46 PM
    Anyone else read Infernal Devices by K.W Jeter. I never finished it although the parts I have read are quite good and set a lot of the look and feel of what has come later.

    I am also fond of
    "A
    Descriptive and Historical account
    of
    Hydraulic and other machines
    for
    Raising Water
    Ancient and Modern <- this should be in blackletter font.
    With Observation on Various Subjects
    connected with the
    Mechanical Arts:
    Including the progressive development of
    THE STEAM ENGINE ..."

    This is just the top of the title page There is a full paragraph of subjects in the book followed by

    "Illustrated by nearly three hundred engravings

    Fourteenth edition

    Revised and Corrected - To which is added a supplement

    BY THOMAS EWBANK <- in large block caps no less - after all this is the Author.

    (I am not going to type in the quote from Robertson's India)

    New York
    Derby And Jackson
    1858 "

    The copyright page states "Entered according to the act of Congress, in the Year 1842, by Thomas Ewbank, in the clerk's office of the southern district of New York."

    It is 603 pages and over an inch and a half thick. The spine just says "Ewbank's Hydraulics and Mechanics."

    I found this at the Dickens fair Bookseller's, a Decade or two back sometime in the 1980s. This book is the definitive in required reading. (I am particularly fond of the digression titled "the history of the fork." Tracing the history of that useful device from the Italian renaissance.) This thing was Ewbank's blog and he writes what ever comes to him. I doubt he had an editor on the other hand it is amazing how much common knowledge has been forgotten, or dismissed as obsolete and irrelevant.

    In any case, I would recommend seeking out these old textbooks. Decorators used to buy them by the yard to fill bookcases in older homes. Most booksellers do not bother with such trivialities. As primary source materials, they are wonderful. I steal from the nearly three hundred engravings all the time.

    I also consider Dickens's _Little Dorrit_ to be an early Science Fiction (Now Steampunk novel.) This was recently adapted (and revised and stereotyped for modern audiences on PBS.) Get the book. Dickens never tells the reader what the invention is. It is shown in an engraving and is nothing other than the Difference or Analytical engine. The cams can quite clearly be seen in the engraving and the outline of the Difference engine is in the background. Dickens was good friends with Babbage and in the novel The inventor Doyce, speaks with Babbage's voice.

    Which of course brings us to Babbage's own _Passages of a Philosopher_ , In effect his Autobiography. And the root source of t he Ada Myth.


















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