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I don't think Cheney will run next presidential election, he'd lose.

I really don't know who republicans would run, no one stands out. Lott would have been a shoe in if he hadn't been disgraced. Maybe Frist, but not for president.

I suspect republicans might run a woman, but it's not likely.

For democrats, I suspect Bayh as vice president. Obama someday, but not in 4 years. Not clinton.
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    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:00 AM
    what, no one wants to talk about the next election? Too soon?
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      Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:09 AM
      I just don't have a guess.
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        Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:12 AM
        I suspect whoever we see sponsoring all the upcoming legislation and being grafted to bush's ass will be the next candidate.
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          Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:18 AM
          Grafed to his ass? Don't know if I'd want to be prez that bad!

          Ummm....I like Guiliani, McCain, Frist, the usuals.

          For some reason I think it will be a relativly unkown. Although I have heard a theory it will be Jeb Bush...I don't think so. He's got like a 70% approval rating here, but I don't know that he even wants to be president, and I think taking over from his brother would be too much for the electorate to go for, too royal.

          Other than that....
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            Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:23 AM
            MCain would never make it, same reason as guiliani.

            So long as republicans depend on conservatives, neither of those two has a chance of a civil liberty in a bush administration.

            I agree though, it will have to be an unknown. I'll say this though, Kerry conceeding in a timely manner will be a benefit to the next democrat candidate.

            You can forget about Jeb, I can virtually guarantee that if Jeb even makes a peep, the "No more kings" line will come out. He doesn't stand a chance.

            I wonder if there's a site somewhere that details what all the presidents and vice presidents states are.
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              Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:30 AM
              None that I know of.

              Well, we've got four years to ponder on this. I think McCain could make it, especially after Bush. It would be a wise move, also. He could bring people like me back into the party and solidify existing support. Those who oppose him are the same ass holes I'd like to see split from the GOP. They have the attitude of "I'd rather be right and lose, than wrong and win"...ok, then go form a splinter party and be smug 'till your hearts content.

              Guiliani would be a tougher sell. Ideally, it'd be a McCain/Guiliani ticket, that has a better chance than one with Guiliani on top. Again, if not for the religous assholes, he'd be a sure thing.
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                Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:34 AM
                It's not just religious jerks who don't like McCain, the chickenhawks don't like him, and the anti-campaign finance people. Plus there are people who won't ever forgive him for not supporting bush 100% on all his policy pieces.
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                  Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:35 AM
                  McCains service is commendable, but he doesnt have a commanding presence. He talks like a little boy.
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                    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:43 AM
                    I disagree. He talks like someone who expects people to listen to reason.
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                    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 8:52 PM
                    I don't trust McCain.
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                    Tue, November 9, 2004 - 8:28 PM
                    McCain talks like a little boy? Are you kidding me?!?!? And Bush doesn't?!?!? Give me a break!

                    He doesn't have a commanding presense? Is that a joke?? And Bush does?!?
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              Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:30 AM
              Don't be surprised if congress, with Bush' support, accelerates certain agendas that normally wouldn't get passed, i.e. allowing non-US born Americans to run for office. If there is no valid Republican out there, they can create their own. You know who I am talking about too.
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                Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:35 AM
                You know, I'm not 100% sure, but I'm reasonably sure Arnold would never make it to the white house. The things people accept and tolerate in a governor or mayor aren't usually forgiven on a larger scale.

                Jesse Ventura wouldn't ever make it to the senate, for example. Arnie could get to the House, maybe, but I doubt any higher.
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                  Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:44 AM
                  Compare Reagan to Arnold. Besides being actors, they share a lot of similarities - charm, looks, wit, they've both managed the worlds 6th largest economy....

                  What could hold him back? Fondling women? Already out in the open.
                  He would draw voters like no other.. anyone that has seen his movies, young and old, black, hispanic, white, would vote for him on popularity alone. And for those that doubted his smarts from his bonehead movies, they will see him a successful business man (dont say it because i know you are thinking it! - lol) and he will Kerry them too.
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                    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:45 AM
                    dont forget his kennedy connection, too.
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                      Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:49 AM
                      Yes, but would that help or hurt?
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                    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:48 AM
                    "What could hold him back? Fondling women? Already out in the open. "

                    In california perhaps. In a larger stage, would people not think to themselves "oh great, another clinton?"

                    I think you're idealizing his chances. Lots of people won't vote for a foreigner, period, especially in the republican party. Let alone a "RINO".

                    Ugh, planet hollywood.
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                      Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:54 AM
                      JL it would help him. Think of this..if he can get elected in CA, a very liberal state over groping, he can do it on a larger scale. I don't think there is bigotry towards foreigners much anymore. If he was Indian and had a really thick accent, then yes, but he is white, good looking, famous, and has no more of speech issue than Giuliani does with his lisp, and we see his popularity.

                      His Kennedy connection would endear him to dems too. He will appeal to all on a high level.
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                        Wed, November 3, 2004 - 9:58 AM
                        And would a liberal state be more or less likely to give someone the benefit of the doubt than a conservative one?

                        No bigotry towards foreigners? Immigration issues slip your mind?

                        I wouldn't count on the "kennedy connection" helping him too much with dems, especially if he runs right after bush.
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                          Wed, November 3, 2004 - 10:06 AM
                          Depends on the issue I guess.

                          Maybe "I" am more accepting of foreigners than some. But, no offense, I think people on the right would be more willing to accept a male foreigner that they grew up with, watched daily, and are comfortable with, who has a track record in politics, than say a woman or a gay or lesbian.

                          He would be wise to use the Kennedy connection to woo the religious right also, which he could do successfully.
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                            Wed, November 3, 2004 - 10:09 AM
                            "I think people on the right would be more willing to accept a male foreigner that they grew up with, watched daily, and are comfortable with, who has a track record in politics, than say a woman or a gay or lesbian. "


                            None taken, I agree, but not with "He would be wise to use the Kennedy connection to woo the religious right also, which he could do successfully. "

                            I think the days of people using democrats to woo conservatives are long gone.
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                              Wed, November 3, 2004 - 10:12 AM
                              Ok, not "wise to use them", but he would be seen as more credible to those on the left, i.e. fans of Ted Kennedy (very left people) and what not.

                              Did you see him speak at the convention? He is quite the orator, captivating, and witty, and most importantly entertaining - a characteristic America loves.
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                                Wed, November 3, 2004 - 10:22 AM
                                eh, a lot's going to depend on intangibles. But I personally just don't see it, and I wouldn't vote for him.
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                                  Wed, November 3, 2004 - 10:42 AM
                                  Free burgers at Planet Hollywood for every vote...

                                  I see a 60% winning margin ;-)
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                                    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 11:16 AM
                                    until everyone gets the craps from the bad food.
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                                      Wed, November 3, 2004 - 11:39 AM
                                      Who cares about cops? Their opinion never really matters anyway as they are second class citizens.
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                                        Wed, November 3, 2004 - 11:44 AM
                                        You know how to bait me Orson. No doubt about it, but because I like you so much, I will let that go...for now. I would hate to open a huge can of whoop ass on you.
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                                          Wed, November 3, 2004 - 11:57 AM
                                          lol.. wait, didnt I say that police are wonderful human beings? You KNOW Im messing with your Robionator.
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                    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 11:13 AM
                    Sylvester Stallone all the way baby....

                    He can kick the terminators ass anytime and he was a porn star, so you just know all foreign politicians would have penis envy when President Stallone is in the room. Can you imagine all the first ladies?!?!
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      Wed, November 3, 2004 - 8:50 PM
      Condoleca Rice - President
      Zell Miller - Vice President
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        Thu, November 4, 2004 - 7:18 AM
        The day a black woman is nominated for president from the republicans is the day trent lott gives a lap dance to dennis hastert.
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          Tue, November 9, 2004 - 8:31 PM
          I'd rather see Hastert dance for Lott.....sexy.
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    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 11:16 AM
    How about Clint Eastwood? He is a solid Republican and all the cops would vote for him.
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      Tue, November 9, 2004 - 8:33 PM
      Does Clint Eastwood even know where he is? Last I heard he flopped running for mayor in a small town, then tried to brew his own beer.

      Dirty Harry be damned.

      And, no offense, I'm not too fond of the police, they cramp my style.

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