"SANTA FE, N.M. - A New Mexico appeals court on Friday ruled against a Los Alamos man who wanted to change his name to a phrase containing a popular four-letter obscenity.
The man appealed after a state district judge in Bernalillo County refused his request to change his name to "F--- Censorship!"
Judge Nan Nash ruled that the proposed name change was "obscene, offensive and would not comport with common decency." "
---- oh, the irony
"The man — whose current legal name is Variable — argued on appeal that it was improper government censorship to deny him the name change.
"We do not believe that the district court's action infringes on petitioner's right to free speech," a three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals said in its ruling.
The man has the right to call himself whatever he wants, unless there's fraud or misrepresentation involved, the judges said.
But once he seeks court approval for a name change, the court has the authority to turn him down on several grounds, including if the name is offensive to common decency and good taste, the judges ruled.
That law was clarified in a 2004 case in the same court that apparently involved the same petitioner. In that case, an Albuquerque man whose name was Snaphappy Fishsuit Mokiligon got the go-ahead from the appeals court to change his name to Variable "
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080...name_change
The man appealed after a state district judge in Bernalillo County refused his request to change his name to "F--- Censorship!"
Judge Nan Nash ruled that the proposed name change was "obscene, offensive and would not comport with common decency." "
---- oh, the irony
"The man — whose current legal name is Variable — argued on appeal that it was improper government censorship to deny him the name change.
"We do not believe that the district court's action infringes on petitioner's right to free speech," a three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals said in its ruling.
The man has the right to call himself whatever he wants, unless there's fraud or misrepresentation involved, the judges said.
But once he seeks court approval for a name change, the court has the authority to turn him down on several grounds, including if the name is offensive to common decency and good taste, the judges ruled.
That law was clarified in a 2004 case in the same court that apparently involved the same petitioner. In that case, an Albuquerque man whose name was Snaphappy Fishsuit Mokiligon got the go-ahead from the appeals court to change his name to Variable "
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080...name_change
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Mon, June 30, 2008 - 3:54 PMAwww. I love that. It makes sense that the court couldn't approve of it, though: think of the children!! The children, always. What if one of the little bastards started asking questions? Why then, an adult (especially an adult who is a judge) might feel discomfited, and we could not have that. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Mon, June 30, 2008 - 8:42 PMI realize there is a principle at stake, but I'm a bit partial to "Snaphappy Fishsuit Mokiligon"........
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Mon, June 30, 2008 - 8:53 PMyeah, Variable is great. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 1, 2008 - 5:00 AMI think they should take the law a step futher and mandate that parents must submit the name they wish to give the child before a panel of judjes for approval.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 1, 2008 - 7:20 AMEhhhhh....
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 1, 2008 - 8:32 AMWhat if your last name is "Crapp".....
and for whatever reason your mother decides to name you "Horace"??
true story
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 1, 2008 - 7:30 AMI hear that Germany and France each maintain an active list for acceptable baby names. Also, in France it is illegal to name your pet pig Napoleon.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 1, 2008 - 7:17 PMi actually had an aquaintance in elementary whose parents named him (i kid you not!)
Cambell Kidd!
And in college, i was TAing for a class and we had a girl on the roster named Amanda Fister. i'm just hoping it was her married name cuz otherwise her parents just weren't thinking!
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Wed, July 2, 2008 - 12:12 AMKnew a Charles in design school at Cal that insisted on being called "Chaz"
and an Xavier that only responded to "X-man".......
hated those guys.........
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Wed, July 2, 2008 - 6:10 AMi knew a guy from high school who changed his name to " Glorska Morggan Porgg" (hope i spelled it right) -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Wed, July 2, 2008 - 7:25 PMI petition that we claim the right to change other people's names, not just our own. After all, isn't it censorship to say we can't call other people by the names we like?
I'll start us off by renaming Variable to Chuck Fensorship. He may not thank me for it, but at least he can't say I didn't give a Chuck. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Thu, July 3, 2008 - 1:16 AMAnd DT, you are now "Minkly Mufflemutt".
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Thu, July 3, 2008 - 8:14 AMthat's it.
i'm changing my name to Duty Free. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 8, 2008 - 10:25 AM> i'm changing my name to Duty Free. <
She said doodie. t-hee.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Thu, July 3, 2008 - 1:36 PMThe courts always know what is best ... for you. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Thu, July 3, 2008 - 3:07 PMeven in Australia ~
"Pat and Sheena are having difficulty making 4 Real their son's official name, however, as the Australian Marriages Offices (where parents are required to register their children's names) won't accept any name beginning with a number. So they're talking to the press, the government -- anyone who will listen -- in their fight to name their child how they choose."
www.parentdish.com/2007/06/...d-4-real/
I'll call you anything you want me to call you ~ especially if it is funny ~ I like to smile :)
love all-ways,
mem
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Fri, July 4, 2008 - 10:51 AMwhen i was 17 or so i got the idea into my head i might change my name to happy meal kotter.
i'm kinda glad i never did. though dave is kind of a boring name.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Fri, July 4, 2008 - 12:44 PMMethuselah Roentgen Maccabees -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Fri, July 4, 2008 - 12:44 PMIt has the advantage that your initials would be MRM. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Fri, July 4, 2008 - 2:29 PMMRM?
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sat, July 5, 2008 - 3:02 PMI guess the advantage is fostering confusion over a missed inside joke.
Now "MTM". that would be kickass, Rendall.
Mary Tyler Moore in the hizzo, G!!
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 8, 2008 - 11:40 AM>> I guess the advantage is fostering confusion over a missed inside joke. <<
'zactly, except it's even less motivated than fostering confusion as much as A Random Throwaway. If the initials had turned out to be PML, I'd have pointed out that as an advantage.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sat, July 5, 2008 - 8:58 PMI don't know what to say here, since I've had bad experiences defending my chosen name online. So, I just thought I'd introduce myself. Here's my youtube channel. youtube.com/user/variablast
I think the court screwed up here. I could have had a passport that suggested to every country I visited that they should Fuck Censorship!. That'd be a fairly easy way to spread the idea, it seems. I don't see what's obscene about opposing censorship and being for free speech. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sat, July 5, 2008 - 9:18 PMWelcome!!
(if this the real deal.)
Stop bothering people with your stillborn alt baloney!!
( if you are a poseur.)
Anyways, "...That'd be a fairly easy way to spread the idea, it seems."
Well, you can still tattoo it on your throat. That way it would be modest as compared to being on your forehead. Everybody everywhere you went would get the message.
And wow! The commitment to your message would come across loud and clear.
I'll do it if you do.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sat, July 5, 2008 - 9:21 PMawww, c'mon
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Sat, July 5, 2008 - 9:31 PM"awww, c'mon
props for the perfect placement of video at least. "
props-props-*clap clap clap*
You are an interwebs diva.
A bit toooooo perfect, wild...
Gotta cast out a little line curling back and forth over the surface to get them trout to rise.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sat, July 5, 2008 - 9:39 PMyou are my trout
you have risen
blessed mutherfuckin' be.
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 12:23 PMI did think it was a particularly good country song :)
love all-ways,
mem
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 6:12 AMThanks (it's the real deal).
I could tattoo it on my throat, but I don't really want to. Tell you what, if you get your name changed to Fuck Censorship! legally I'll tattoo it somewhere on my body in celebration. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 10:03 AMAnywhere you can get it changed. I don't think any of the 50 states will approve, but maybe I'm wrong. Prove me wrong and you'll have the tattoo you want on my body. (... What a weird desire for you to have though). -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 1:14 PMi have no clue as to what is going on.. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 1:22 PMSorry. I thought you were GrouchoSuave.
He was saying one way of bringing forth the issue of censorship was to tattoo it somewhere prominent. I was saying that I would do that in celebration if someone successfully changed their name to Fuck Censorship!. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 1:35 PMah
don't mind me, i'm out of my mind with moving preparation.
it will be several weeks before i make any kind of sense again... -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 1:47 PMI know how you feel. Moving is hard.
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Sun, July 6, 2008 - 1:48 PMI've already got some face and throat tattoos. They aren't as important as names, I find. -
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Sun, July 6, 2008 - 1:52 PMyeah, moving is a bitch
thankfully, i've been around tribe long enough to be perfectly comfortable
with posting random nonsense all over the place.
throat tattoos?
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Sun, July 6, 2008 - 4:50 PMOK, wild is losing her mind.
Even if there was something to do to help from this far of a remove, I don't know if I would: It's kinda charming. -
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Sun, July 6, 2008 - 5:07 PMXXO
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Mon, July 7, 2008 - 8:10 PMspeaking as someone who has legally changed her first name, i get why variable puts the emphasis on names over tattoos.
***Warning! Rant coming! Danger!! Turn back now!!!****
In the real world my legal first name is Jaybird, its not just a handle folks, and its the name i've used for most of my life. My close friends call me "Bird" or "birdie." My parents call me "Jay " or "birdie" as well, in fact it was my dad who first gave me that nickname when i was a little girl.
And yet, i would be an obscenely rich woman if i had a dollar for every time i had someone demand to know what my "real" name was. And they don't just ask once. They ask over and over again like impatient toddlers. It doesn't matter that i answer that Yes, this is my real name, and yes, it is my legal name: they chase their tails in circles to figure out what name is on my birth certificate.
i find it ironic that in such an individualistic society my own self knowledge that surfaced by the time i was five (literally true, i started introducing myself as different names by first grade, and it was set in stone by middle school) is less valuable that some name plucked out of the ether by two people who haven't even met their child yet.
And yet, despite the fact that its no longer uncommon for women to keep their maiden names, we're still in a society where the expectation is that *if* i get married i will easily and giddily give up my last name (a gift from my father) as if the wedding liscense is a change of ownership. Yes, i know how feminazi that sounds, but its true of our society and i'm not blaming anyone.
So lets take a moment and ponder this, shall we? How is it that the first name that my parents gave me is so damn important, and yet the same people have no issue whatsoever with changing my name in marriage! WTF, Seriously!
*** We now return to your regularly scheduled programing***
Look! A bunny fucking a chicken! Fuck censorship indeed!
people.tribe.net/c373336f-...af45d090ce
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 8, 2008 - 11:33 AMThere are gravity wells of expectation everywhere around us in which we all reside, and even the most normal of us have experiences that totter above and between where others live.
My name is balanced between 'Randall' and 'Wendall', and I constantly have to correct folks who have fallen into one or the other of their preconceptions. I've learned to do it deftly and kindly, and I have noticed nothing that distinguishes those who get my name correctly the first time from those who mistake it. I think it's just a matter of how much they have going on in their heads at the moment they first hear my name.
People who legally change their names are unusual, Jaybird, and outside of the bounds of expectation. I'm definitely curious about what motivated Variable to change his name to Variable, and finding out what his name was before his change is a first step. Not the most important step perhaps, but one of them.
Like it or not, you are connected forevermore to the name that your parents gave you. By hiding it, or not answering it, or getting defensive about it, you give it a power over you that you obviously don't want.
What if, when someone asks your 'real' name, you say 'Jaybird'. But what if, when they ask what name you had before that (or you were born with, or your parents gave you, etc), you just gave them what they want and move on? Or even added something like 'But that was never my real name, and I knew that from when I first heard it.'
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Re: Mr. Fuck Censorship
Tue, July 8, 2008 - 11:42 AMexcellent advice.
and my given name doesn't suit me - at all.
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