Shopping for used bike in SF - where to look?

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What are the best places to search for used Harleys in and around SF?

I've been looking on craigslist, and there are quite a few bikes there.

Are there any other places you guys would recommend searching?

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  • Re: Shopping for used bike in SF - where to look?

    Thu, November 13, 2008 - 3:24 PM
    So you wanna see more than you get on CL?

    Try phoning Frisco Choppers or any other motorcycle shops that might have a bulletin board up.
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      Mon, November 17, 2008 - 9:37 PM
      also try cycle trader. they're online as well at www.cycletrader.com
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        Mon, November 17, 2008 - 10:18 PM
        craig's list
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          Tue, November 18, 2008 - 1:10 AM
          oh right... craigslist. Great idea.
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            Sat, November 22, 2008 - 10:43 PM
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              Sun, November 23, 2008 - 4:32 PM
              Maybe Motojava.com
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                Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:12 PM
                How's it going? The market must be flooded. The Auto Trader down here in So Cal doesn't have alot surprizingly. I'm gonna put up another post. Harley's taking orders for the 750 XZ (?) 1200 super sporty, it's a rad bike, best thing HD has. Goin for 10,XXX, about 11 OTD.
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                  Mon, December 8, 2008 - 2:02 PM

                  I found one on craigslist. It's a 2000 xlh, with _tons_ of extras. And,I got a very good price on it.

                  It's great to have a bike again. :-)

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                    Re: Shopping for used bike in SF - where to look?

                    Wed, December 17, 2008 - 11:57 PM
                    nice one, Adam.
                    don let anyone call the sportster a girl bike, either.
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                      Sun, December 21, 2008 - 11:08 PM
                      > don let anyone call the sportster a girl bike, either.

                      My Sportster has been redone in flat black, and is covered in in skulls. I've gotten quite a few compliments on it, and so far no one has called it a girl's bike. :-)
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                        Sat, December 27, 2008 - 1:57 PM
                        wait. . . . a sportster iz NOT a gurls bike?. . . hmmmm. . .who knew?
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                          Sun, December 28, 2008 - 10:05 AM
                          Oooh, I didn't realize that skulls all over your bike made it a less of a girl's bike. Sorry about that.

                          Good luck, ride safe, and get used to people calling your Sportster a girl's bike or Skirtster. Those names have been around longer than you have (since about 1960 when the big bike guys started lumping Pportsters and K models in with the lighter British bikes when they heaped their scorn).

                          Skirtster's are a relatively inexpensive way to say "I own a Harley". They CAN be made into a respectable hotrod, however. I did it too in the old days (the early 80s, to you Generation Y types). Yup, I rode a girl's bike for a while, while my '49 ULH flathead 80 incher was being rebuilt. I bought a '72 iron-barrel Skirtster for $1200 in 1982, put the motor in a D&D Cycles rigid (Paughco before it was Paughco), AFTER I added lightened and balanced 4 5/8" S&S flywheels, Sifton Minus-Minus cams, Sifton lifters, an S&S Super B carb, a Morris magneto and a 48 tooth rear sprocket on a 18x4" disc alloy rear wheel (less rolling resistance to eat up horsepower and torque), a dual disc 19x3.5" alloy wheeled front end and (wide footprint added stability), with everything drilled and lightened, and I had a 395lb, 77cu.", 10.8 second @ 112mph drag bike with a license plate and headlight that ran on pump gas for less than $4000, the cost of a complete basket-case 74" big-twin back then. Took a couple of pink slips from people who wanted to call it what it was- a GIRL'S BIKE and were certain their 88inch stroker big-twin could take it in the 1/8th mile. It was, too... a girl's bike, that is. Gave it to my ex-wife eventually.

                          The big downside of this kind of hop-up, even on today's motors, is that they break more easily, and cost more to fix when they do. They also wear out sooner and get crummy gas mileage, compared to stock. It's cheaper in the long run to buy a 5 year old Dyna or Softail. No, they're not "fast" or "quick", but they ARE a helluva lot more fun (AND more substantial on the long road) to ride.

                          Stock Skirtsters even today, they're too light for long freeway work without IronButt credentials, too heavy in the wrong places to be even a marginal "through the twisties" racer, and too underpowered to be an impressive bar-hopper. Of course, if you start with a 120ph, 1200cc Buell motor, put it in a lightweight rigid frame with the barest of necessities and every fuel-injection, cam, exhaust, and electronics hop-up option you can afford (but NOT adding additional weight with chrome skulls and "live to ride" badges all over), you CAN build a respectable 11-12 second bar hopper....... In the mean time, riding a Skirtster will get you used to the fact that there's a zillion morons out there who do NOT see you or your bike, and teach you how to "ride defensively or perish". They're also cheaper to fix when you crash, since you can often find a complete parts bike for a few thousand dollars.

                          It's what it is- a STARTER Harley for most people, male OR female, and the biggest bike most of the shorter women I know want to ride. Most of the women I know who do ride (those who don't ride Honda Shadows or whatnot, that is), ride either Dynas or Softails. A few ride baggers, but they're generally 5"9 or taller. So "girl's bike" has no real meaning anymore, except to degrade guys on Sportsters ;-).

                          If you want to ride a Skirtster that does NOT fit the "girl's bike" nickname, go take a look at the new 2009 XR-1200! It's Harley's European model designed to actually be a respectable contender in the hills (NOT, mind you, in competition with 1200cc Japanese of German bikes, just lightyears better handling and performing than any other Harley to date, except the Buell bikes). Our local service manager was one of the guys to put it through it's test-track torture for Harley's factory development crew, and he LOVES it (he rides a GERMAN dual-sport for his daily rider, by the way). Wanna know what? People will STILL say you're riding a girl's bike. They just won't mean it as deeply with that XR 1200. Hell, the tiny little gal at the local dealer who's riding a Buell Blast calls her bike "HALF a girl's bike", since it's the front cylinder only of a Sportster motor in the Blast!

                          We now return you to our more meaningful discussions. Ride safe.
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                            Sun, December 28, 2008 - 10:16 AM
                            I think that people who need to ascribe gender value to a machine are wasting a lot of time on something that says way more about themselves than the machine.
                            I know a man who put over half a million miles on his sportster, commuting and touring(with and without a sidecar). He's not terrible tall or big, the sportster just fits him best. I've seen a few guys with that body type, and families, hack their sportys. I know another old-timer who traveled around the country, 2-up, for years on a red sportster he called We Go.....again, it fits him best.
                            I could go on...but back in the old days (a bit before gen Y) they'd say these kids gotta learn for themselves.
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                            Mon, December 29, 2008 - 6:23 AM
                            Saucer of milk any one. . . . . . ?
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                              Mon, December 29, 2008 - 9:46 AM
                              Actually Harley built the sportster as an entry into the performance bike category.
                              Specifically to set speed records at bonneville.

                              One of my co-workers chopped a sportster and rides it around town as it's a great in-town ride. Light weight and easy to split lanes with. His lic plate; "SKRT3R"
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                                Tue, December 30, 2008 - 10:42 AM
                                >>"I think that people who need to ascribe gender value to a machine are wasting a lot of time on something that says way more about themselves than the machine. "<<

                                Actually, I really don't think it has anything to DO with gender, OR the machine. The first three woman I ever knew to ride rode either a rigid flathead, a rigid shovelhead, or in one case, a rigid panhead that she re-built completely herself after her ol' man was killed on it (RIP "Road Map" Lloyd). Calling it a Skirtster or a girl's bike is just an entertaining way to poke fun at someone who's relatively new to the Harley scene (since the Sportster IS considered a "starter Harley" today by many, including those who sell them). Nobody I know is calling a Buell 1200 a "girl's bike", it's based on the same motor, but then again, it's not sportin' obsolete 50 year old TT frame geometry with about one-half the horsepower-weight ratio of a similar displacement Japanese or German bike, like the Sportster is.

                                It's impossible to ignore that many people- first and foremost- buy an IMAGE when they buy a Harley, particularly when you buy your FIRST Harley (although for most people on HDs, that image means little to them- they just love Harleys, the same way some people love Chevy or Mopar). Hell, the factory even addresses this "image" openly as "value added" in their advertising. If someone really wants to RIDE, for the price of a newer Sportster, you can get a whole LOT of Japanese comfort, performance and reliability. When someone buys a Sportster and then covers it in skulls or starts talking in "biker lingo" or pats himself on the back for riding a "Harley" as some kind of status symbol, it's just easy to see that this person thinks the image is most important, and at that point, it's FUN to annoy the shit outta people like that by indirectly questioning their manhood, as they're generally more susceptible to such ribbing and ridicule, since their desire for the image points out insecurities that make more lively targets.

                                I honestly think people do it because it's SATISFYING to watch a guy on a Sportster get all defensive and upset trying to argue that he's NOT riding a "girl's bike". We KNOW why he's on a Sportster- it's a helluva lot CHEAPER to get on the road that way than buying a new Dyna, Softail, or Road King! No problem, simple math! It makes sense. We GET IT! The ridicule has NOTHING to do with gender for most of us, I think, and everything to do with making fun of someone who's makin' themselves an easy target for jokes. It's a lot like someone describing a friend who likes to go dancing in fancy clothes as "a disco queen", even though he's a) not into disco, nor going to discos, nor dancing to disco music, and b) not a "queen", in any sense of the word (although he might look good in a garter belt and wig >;-). There's nothing wrong with dancing, and nothing wrong with enjoying it, but it's fun to watch him get defensive about meaningless things.

                                Someone who buys a Sportster, then puts on a faux-German beanie helmet (because he thinks it makes him look like a "real" biker to the rest of the world) and covers the bike with chrome skulls (the universal act for someone trying to convince himSELF that he's a badass), is just an easy target (if, however, they're REAL human skulls with the teeth removed to prevent identification, and maybe a bullet hole or two, you should probably let the guy alone ;-).

                                Let's not get too sensitive about the gender assignment, since for the most part, most of the women I know who ride, can and DO participate in the "girl's bike" jokes, since almost none of them are riding Sportsters in the first place.
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                                  Tue, December 30, 2008 - 12:03 PM
                                  Flat Track was way more popular than Bonneville, currently there's a young woman who's riding flat track (a 450, not HD) and she's taken some serious hits and she's still competing.
                                  XR 750 is still running in the open class. Kenny Coolbeth rides HD.
                                  So you idiot Hog riders oughtta keep you traps shut about Sporties and keep adding billit to your sleds, don't scrape up your bags, run a chrome bar under them.
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                                    Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:28 AM
                                    >>"XR 750 is still running in the open class. Kenny Coolbeth rides HD.
                                    So you idiot Hog riders oughtta keep you traps shut about Sporties and keep adding billit to your sleds, don't scrape up your bags, run a chrome bar under them."<<

                                    Hey Ron, nobody's been calling anyone names until YOU. Lighten up.
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                                      Fri, January 2, 2009 - 12:50 AM
                                      Just in case any of y'all are overly-sensitive about riding a Skirtster and want some ammunition to toss back at people who call yer Skirtster a Girl's Bike (so you don't call people names to their face and get beat up), point out that there is at least one famous guy who started a VERY famous motorcycle club based in Oakland, CA, who apparently did so on a, yup, you guessed it, Sportster, and continued to ride that Sporty throughout a large portion of the 60s (at the time, it WAS the best horsepower:weight ration going).

                                      swindlemagazine.com/issueico...y-barger/
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                                  Tue, December 30, 2008 - 1:05 PM
                                  Ok I wuz not gonna say anything but my afternoon just opened up and I have some time to rant. . . . . so here it iz. . .

                                  I rode metric fer 20 years. . . I loved my Hondas I currently ride a Suzuki DRZ 400 daily. Rain, snow, sleet, hail, you name it. . yes in the sun too. . .

                                  On weekends and fer them long trip I pull out my Softail (no wise cracks here plz)

                                  Now, while I rode metric I wuz snubbed many a time buy the Harley crew. The few biker bars I would go to also made me feel less than welcome because of my metric cruisers.

                                  So now. . that I sit upon my American steel . . . the very same crew that would not acknowledge me on the roads prior all give me the “low salute” every time I ride past.

                                  I’ll go so far as to say I attended a local biker meeting recently on my Suzuki and when I pulled up I could hear mumbles under some guys breath. . . when I pulled my full face off they were all like. . .Hey Nick! We did not know it was you! What the hell you doing on that thing?

                                  My reply was “things I can not do on a Harley”. . . . .

                                  Guess like a big family with lots of siblings the older ones will inevitably pick on the younger ones like a right of passage.

                                  I guess riding a Skirtster is like being a freshman in school again. . . . you have to pay your dues if ya wanna sing the blues as Ringo says. . . .

                                  I still say it’s a chick bike. . . . . so? Wadaya gonna do about it?

                                  Peace –N.
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                                  Tue, December 30, 2008 - 1:11 PM
                                  Tattoo:

                                  I'm amused with your post. After all, I am the guy who just bought a sportster covered in chrome skulls. And, it did come with a faux-German beanie helmet. :-)

                                  My favorite though, is the guys who buy huge Electra Glides, keep them stock, and wear matching Harley(tm) jackets and sunglasses.

                                  I think the reason for calling the Sportster a "girl's bike" probably just comes down to the size and weight of the bike. I'm 5'8", and the bike is a bit small for me. Someone who is 5'2" would be able to ride it, not problem. However, a guy who is 6'2" would look like a joke on my bike.
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                                    Fri, January 2, 2009 - 1:47 AM
                                    Adam, "guys who ride Electra Glides" and "keep them stock" are often doing that for the same reason lots of people keep their new motorcycle stock- warranty issues. Once you've put non-factory parts on something, the dealer can, and often will, disallow any warranty work, depending on what parts are replaced, from exhaust to handlebars.

                                    Besides, for many people, a stock bagger is exactly what they want.

                                    Just a thought........
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                                      Fri, January 2, 2009 - 3:28 PM
                                      It would be had for me to pick from Harley's offerings currently. I would look at the XR1200 first.
                                      I like baggers pre evo more like pre 70. Panhead baggers are the coolest (with the hard bags).
                                      Sometimes I see a stripped down twinkie I like, like a Dyna with a carburetor.
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                                      Fri, January 2, 2009 - 4:59 PM
                                      Tattoo:

                                      Thanks for the Sunny Barger reminder.

                                      > Once you've put non-factory parts on something, the dealer can, and often will, disallow any warranty work...

                                      Take this with a huge grain of salt, but the Harley imagine is one of being a bad assed rebel. I see some great irony in people attempting to fit that Harley bad assed image, while worrying about their bike's warranty. :-)
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                                        Sat, January 3, 2009 - 7:43 PM
                                        >>"Take this with a huge grain of salt, but the Harley imagine is one of being a bad assed rebel. I see some great irony in people attempting to fit that Harley bad assed image, while worrying about their bike's warranty. :-) "<<

                                        So, you're suggesting that people who either a) ARE bad-ass rebels, or b) want to LOOK like a bad-ass rebel, don't give as shit about paying for repairs that they shouldn't have to pay for? What about the fact that, as I stated before, most riders I know don't give a shit about the image any more than the guy in a Dodge? When someone with endless cash buys a new bike, sure, repairs aren't a hassle, but for most of us making payments, a sheared oil pump drive key (something you can't predict, and can and does occasionally happen) means you'll shell out $3,500 for a new motor if your warranty is void. I've already had my front brake rotors and spedometer replaced, at NO cost to me, because I DO give a shit about my warranty. Spent 25 years on Harleys, and this is the first bike I've purchased new, and I, for one, do NOT want to pay for repairs on a new bike because of a faulty part (like the speedo face decal that had a bubble in it, leading the dealer to replace a $350 speedo!). Please think twice.....
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                                          Sat, January 3, 2009 - 9:44 PM
                                          I like old bikes and bikes that are customised. I do not nesessarily like them customised past functioning. I also like performance bikes like GP road racers, flat trackers, cafe racers. I like older dirt bikes.
                                          I have a couple of older harleys and a KTM supermoto. One harley is running and I love to ride it, it's a 72 shovel in a wishbone frame. It has an S&S stroker kit and the original oil pump.
                                          I just don't like new harleys. I know plenty of people, friends, who own new harleys and some have old bikes along with their new baggers.
                                          Pardon my out look. I don't particularly like the current Harley culture.
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                                            Sun, January 4, 2009 - 9:34 AM
                                            >>"Pardon my out look. I don't particularly like the current Harley culture. "<<

                                            I'm still trying to figure out where (and what) the hell "current Harley culture" is! Where does one go to experience this "culture"? I mean, each town I've spent much time in seems to have one “bike” bar, and each bar crowd has its own personality, some vastly different than those just a quarter-hour away.

                                            I've seen a thousand different descriptions of motorcycle lifestyles in my lifetime, and they're all "big brush" descriptions like yours. I get the feeling you might even be confusing Harley factory advertising and image-peddling with an existing, homogeneous culture, or could you be assigning experience from the slice of local “modern Harley” culture you've been exposed to, with a worldwide lifestyle?. The ONLY thing I think of that you could be so down on as "Harley culture" is either "the strange folks at the yuppie-biker bar down the street"- I can't help with that- or that uber-romanticized "imaginary culture" the Harley factory created for a world of yuppie consumers just dying to finally be "cool". Not even the yuppies who buy the bikes hoping to be cool actually live in that imaginary culture. It's a fiction.

                                            I mean, do you see why I'm still thrown by this question? There are so many different people on bikes that you get hundreds of individual "Harley" cultures within large cities, and those individual cultures may meet for exactly one day a year at their local toy-run in December, or once a week for three months each summer. If you mean "current HOG chapter culture in north-Texas", or "current smallish bike-club 1%er lifestyle in lower Michigan" or "current yuppie-on-new-Harley with faux-German-beanie-helmet in southern-California culture" or "current east-coast Harleycentric-bike-run culture" or "current toy-run culture" or "current state/local or cross-country touring-bike culture" or "current biker-bar culture in ________ city" or "current yuppies-trying-to-look-and-act-like-1%er-types culture", or "current off-duty-cops-on-Harleys culture" or "current Jesus-freak-bike-club culture", or "current big-city-lesbian-motorcycle-club culture" or "current movie-star-being-seen-on-his-Harley-and-then-in-the-tabloids culture", or "current..........", well, I hope you get the picture.

                                            By the way, since you've brought up what you like and ride, I can only assume you're trying to establish some kind of bona-fides here. Not sure why, but since it seems to matter to you: would I fit into "current Harley culture"? I only ever bought one new two years ago, but for 23 years prior, I built every other bike I've owned. The bikes I've built/owned and rode over the years since I started riding Harleys in 1982 include two '48 panheads, both 74" 4-speed/wishbone rigids, a '66 generator shovel and a '69 generator shovel, both 4 speed swingarm bikes, and the aforementioned stroker Skirster rigid drag-bike/bar-hopper. Except for the Skirty-bar-hopper and the first '48 for the first year or so, they all had 3.5 gallon two-piece tanks with two-light or three-light dashboards, 16" rear 21" front wheeled, apehanger/wide-glide steered, with full hinged rear fenders and hard-leather bags. They almost all fit the "bobbed bagger" definition I guess, and that 19" or 21" front wheel, the stripped wide-glide with narrowed fenders are identical to some of the first changes proto-bikers ever made to their surplus military bikes right after WWII. I built my bikes to fit the way I liked to ride, or I did until about 2 years ago when my back couldn't take it and I needed a new, cushy bike.

                                            The good news? the new 96" Road King rides, performs, and handles better than any old bagger or bobber I've owned, and only the Skirtster was faster/quicker, and it’d damned well better be, since it was lighter by half, and had just about every pump-gas hi-performance mod short of a blower or turbo. You should try renting a new bagger for a week. The ride is light-years better than I ever imagined, and more medium-long-distance fun than I ever had in the past.

                                            Ride safe. Lemme know when and where you find this culture of which you speak, please?

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