Alien Agenda

topic posted Sun, May 11, 2008 - 1:10 PM by  offlineBernhard
Hi all!

I wrote a 3 part series on the topic of UFO’s, Aliens, Abductions and the Question of Contact
It didn't fit on my blog, so I posted it here:

www.bernhardguenther.com/Alien...da.htm
www.bernhardguenther.com/Alien...a2.htm
www.bernhardguenther.com/Alien...a3.htm

Feel free to check it out. Any comments and insights are always appreciated.

Peace.
B:-)
posted by:
Bernhard
California
  • Re: LOL

    Sun, May 11, 2008 - 2:24 PM
    yep, thee "plot" iz thicker than mud lets say........

    and yes, thee "knew age" haz ben highly "N fested" N filtrated buy certain B ingz, wont get N2 specifix........

    best summary eye've scene iz thee on B low this post on starseed tribe.......

    eye didnt reed thee whole manuskript kapt however eye saw N konlusion sekshun thee "knew age koncept" ov "what will b iz mint 2 B" type mentallity........"B all light, dont acknowledge "negativity".........

    this was spoken ov buy kapt eris and m'eye self on latest kaptz blog.......

    and az yule C if U look at thee summary ov witch we speek, it kleerly states that know, thee higher D menshunal B ingz, hue man oar otherwise, from "other worlds", thee true galaktik federayshun(s), dew knot inner fear with thee free will evolutionary process ov life UNLESS a situayshun Re: choirs such "divine inner vention", kuz from thee standpoint ov hue manz facing thee D limma ov "alien N vasion", B it psykologikally kovert oar phyzikally overt (witch iz what did happen weigh back when), it duznt appear 2 me that, if theze "alienz" who wanna "kontrol thee hue manz" have thee teknology that they have shown 2 have and moor, how wood hue manity D fend itself, eh?

    eye/we siriusly pose this kwestion B kuz there iz definately truth N thee furthering attempt(s) from certain fallen races 2 kontrol thee hue manz, yet there R MANY mutlitudes ov "guardian angels" hear 2 definately assist, at whatever level knead B........

    this iz, N deed, 4 THEE REKORD

    0mega13
    0ver&awaiting kontakt ;;>))))
    • Re: ;;>)))

      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 4:39 PM
      sew eye wood like 2 start with saying that eye/we agree with U bernhard wholeheartedly N Re: guardz 2 thee "knew age" " channelingz" and what knot, and with thee "passivity" that iz "preached" with N that genre az well.......like N thee "bible", "turn thee other cheek" type "kondishunning", az well az "whatever happenz waz mint 2 B"......yeah, tell that 2 thee native "americans", oar 2 thee tibeten monks, etc.......

      however, N Re: guardz 2 "galaktik federayshun/kontakt" scenarios:

      az haz be stated N other manuskripts, there iz what we will Re: fur 2 az a "renegade GF"......a "federayshun" prezenting itself az "benevolent" "angelik B ingz" hear 2 "save earth from itself".........

      now, eye ask U and whoever else, this kwestion........

      what dew U feel about thee term "divine protekshun"?

      eye personally have herd men E testimonials from others who R thoroughly konvinced that they, at one point oar another, was "saved from death" via "guardian angel(s)"..........

      often times, both on a planetary az well az individual level, "divine protekshun" goes "un-scene" 4 thee most part........

      however, with thee apparent N tent on B half ov certain "fallen races" 2 sumhow further N slave and oar feed off ov hue manity, given what they've shown 2 B kapable ov thus far, whats 2 stop them from fullfilling their agenda(s)?

      what, U gonna sit there kross legged and meditate those B ingz away? along with all their kray Z teknologikjal D vices, biochemikal warfare abilities? heck even on thee lowest level, "martial law" wood B diffikult 4 thee populace 2 fend off given thee komplacency thee majority haz thus far shown........

      sew bernhard, az a neighbor wood assist a neighbor N diffikult periods, we will asisit on whatever level necessary, when and if, tho m'eye guess iz moor like "when" rather than "if"........kuz thee "false federayshun" and thee "earth govts" (R one N thee same) havent shown N E sines N thee very least az 2 their N tent on letting up with their agendas.......

      and thee timing ov korse, during a "grand awakening/stellar aktivayshun" gives weigh 4 thee potential 4 thee "fallen ones" 2 Re: gain their "komposure", az another main protokol iz that NO ONE IZ 2 B LEFT OUT OV ATTUNEMENT.......duz knot state "limited 2 earth hue manz"........
      • Re: from 2012 tribe

        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 5:28 PM

        thank U davidsjelly, hour sentiments exaktly:

        davidsjelly writes:

        "the problem is Bernhard... in order to point out the specific disinformation it would require me to write up an essay about 20% as long as yours... and that is a waste of my time. so it is sufficient for me to simply state the obvious... which is that your essay is nothing more than the spreading of other peoples mis and disinformation."

        "you've been so suckered it's almost comical... were it not so sad."

        ""as for your style... yeahhh.... it sucks. and it's not about you being direct... it's about your inability to be credible and thus persuasive. your very choice of opening words and statements makes that clear. if what you propose is true... you wouldn't bother telling us all about all the 'ridicule', 'disbelief' and 'blind belief' you experience."

        "you are fear mongering. and as for you saying "I'm sorry you got scared.".... you only prove yourself to be playing the fool."

        >>>"What has my profession, personal life and your accusation/attack do with this essay?"

        "as far as i can tell... you put all the effort and time into spreading this fear as a means to not only give yourself something to do in your spare time... but also to increase eyeballs to your profile and site and so advertise your "healing" services. not to mention, the more dis-ease you create in people and the world around you... the more clients you and those of your ilk will attract."

        "you are a charlatan Bernhard. unlike your reference to blowjobs... my mention of you advertising here on Tribe for Reiki at $45 an hour is truth. "

        deep sofa alien reiki attunements now only 39.95 plus tax.........hehehe
        • Re: from 2012 tribe

          Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:26 AM
          Makes me wonder, what is the difference between "fear-mongering" vs. "being realistic"?
          I think, sometimes, negativity should be acknowledged. If you keep sweeping dirt underneath the rug long enough, then one day when you pull up the rug, you could get a sneezy-allergy attack from the dust!
          People should be willing to acknowledge their anger, fear, jealousy, dramas, traumas, and other stuckness. It's better not to be RULED by things like resentment though.... as it is impossible for resentment and joy to live together....
          • Re: from 2012 tribe

            Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:50 AM
            Great insight Linda!

            I'd like to clarify some points here, becasue bedouin is spreading personal attacks on me here with his "buddy" David from the 2012 tribe.
            Here's my response to it from 2012.tribe.net/thread/a1d...1bbeaf1af00


            Here's "my deal", since I'm being accused of being a charlatan.

            Reiki, works for me, I have gotten amazing sessions and it had a good effect on my over all well being.
            I also don;t want to waste my time arguing about the "effectiveness" of that healing modality with people who either haven't ever received it, or do not know much about body and energy-work to begin with. It's pointless. So indulge in you humor about it. I'm not offended, nor do I take it serious. It amuses me actually.

            I do not need to defend myself. I can live off my work and people seems to like it, otherwise why would they come back?

            Many times before I have offered free sessions, no matter what style, from deep tissue to "energy work" to some members of this forum, including David.

            I have also many time asked David if he would like to meet up for some tea/coffee since we both live in LA area and just talk face to face in order to undo some misunderstandings and our "feuds" over all these years. It actually seems he's feeding off that conflict, as he keeps attacking me.

            He is talking about love and hugging and being loving and compassionate, etc.....but he doesn't seem to follow his own words.

            We live in times of change. we all want love and peace in our lives and the world, don't we?

            If so, why not make the effort right here between us?
            I ask you David, why do you keep attacking me personally while ignoring my offerings to you?

            Don't you think we could heal this and move beyond it?

            I'm up for getting together,as I said before.
            Just write me a private message through tribe and we can set something up.

            In any case I'd appreciate it to stop attacking me personally without giving any effort to get to know me better and not relating to the topic at hand.

            I apologize for the blowjob comment. It was uncalled for. I just felt irritated by your personal attack, which I thought was uncalled for as well.



            In regards to my essay, which I thought was the topic of this thread, I did change some things, even the ones David suggested.
            I was really trying to give a good overview of this phenomena without hiding behind some wish wash talk.
            In that sense it is more direct and to the point. English is my second language and I'm not familiar with many terms, gramma and otherwise, or of how to say things "correctly". I'm not a trained writer or journalist. I just write the way it comes out and do my best to bring my point across, which I admit I do not always succeed in.

            It took me along time to write this and research it. I don't get paid for it.
            All I thought was that this subject might be welcomed here, by people wanting to know what is going on in the UFO/Alien filed.
            Is it all bogus and lies, is it "good" or "bad"? Well, this essay is just some food of thought about something I haven't seen covered on here.
            That's really all it is.

            The ones really interested in this subject can see what I'm trying to convey and it has nothing to do with me.
            All what this essay is about is showing some research people have come up with in that field and some conclusions and questions we may ask ourselves. Nothing more or less.

            I have no problem with constructive criticism. But personal insults not relating to the topic are uncalled for.

            The reason why I post it on my site is simply because it is my site to host all kinds of stuff, some of it which doesn't have to do with anything what I do professionally. Tribe sucks for posting longer posts and you can't use html editing.
            Blaming me for "hidden" advertisement for my bodywork practice, is quite lame. Considering the topic of the essay and the response the general public gives it, I'd probably shy "possible" clients away.
            My work as a massage therapist doesn't depend on my website anyway. Funny thing is, I have never gotten a client through my website. It's all word of mouth and it works just fine like that.

            So this is enough about me.
            I hope this resolved some issues/misunderstandings.
            • Re: from 2012 tribe

              Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:52 AM
              from the essay (3rd part):

              "It is in interesting to note these days, that if there is something presented which may not look that "pretty" in regards to our "future", it is automatically judged as "fear-mongering" or "being negative", especially in the "New Age Movement"
              However, we're just looking at some of the pieces of the puzzle and a possible emerging picture and resulting questions we may have to ask ourselves. Most of it is simply information from researchers who have been studying this phenomena for decades. What we do with it and how we react to it, be it fear, denial, discomfort, excitement, inspiration, etc., is up to each one of us.
              There is no fear on my side, nor do I try to infuse fear, but just look at something we all tend to dismiss so easily.
              If a person reacts to it with fear, maybe he/she needs to examine it within themselves, before blaming the author or the researchers, who are just showing something which not many people really have looked into deeply or are even aware of.

              "Discomfort" and "fear" can serve a purpose, if used/applied correctly. There is a chance for healing from a shamanic and esoteric perspective. It is good to put oneself into a state of vulnerability when looking at the "darker" aspects of our reality or of oneself, truly looking at it, facing it and not giving the ego a chance to explain it all away, so we can go back to our comfort zone and ultimately back to "sleep". Nor is it about buying into fear and panic.
              Sometimes things need to be confronted without automatically defending our beliefs and views and hence look at the world and us objectively, not only in regards to the UFO/Alien issue but in many other aspects as well. That's part of the awakening process and it is classic shamanic work."


              Towards the end of the essay I write:

              "Who is to judge what is a ”good” outcome to begin with? “Good” is a very subjective statement. What is a “good” outcome for the aliens, might be not so “good” for humanity and vicar versa. We need to understand our subjective limited view and perception of good/bad, dark/light in regards to the big scheme of creation and all Intelligent Life within.

              True spiritual work entails more than just focusing our intention on what is "possible". It means becoming aware and becoming aware/conscious entails seeing the world and oneself as it/one is, objectively, dark and light, without rose colored glasses on or projecting into it how we like it to be or not to be. Before we can create something new and better, we need to clearly see what is going on, in ourselves and in the world, otherwise more damage will be done and it's like a blind man stumbling around in a porcelain store.

              From the viewpoint of esoteric work, truth or objectivity should be one's principal goal. It’s interesting how the popular new age teachings these days promote subjectivity, to just focus on the self and shut out the “outside”, to ignore the “bad”, and keep manifesting reality according to one’s subjective desires and wishes. Is this really what spirituality and conscious evolution is all about?"



              In the end I just ask some questions and have some speculations based on what I've come across.
              Not sure if anyone has actually really took the time and read it to the end, but somehow I feel I'm being judged of being negative and a fear-mongerer without anyone really having made the effort to read the full article and trying to understand what I'm talking about.
              I'm not saying that everyone should read it, but the ones blaming me for being just "negative", shouldn't judge so quick, until they have actually read the whole thing.

              In anyway, non of what I wrote is scary or fearful to me. It just IS.
              • Re: starseed trance mishuns ;;>)))

                Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:44 PM
                I do not need to defend myself."

                yet U R dewing just that ;;>)))


                " I can live off my work and people seems to like it, otherwise why would they come back? "

                lets Re: phrase that and sea what we C

                eye kan live off other people and they seam 2 knot mined it.......otherwise, Y wood they kome back?

                now lets answer that kwestion, only a "guess" eye know....still...

                Y dew they kome back?

                lets C....yer probably a really sweet person....kind, gentle...loving....atleast thats what eye've gathered from thee yeerz ov know wing U on tribe........

                and may B they want 2 "support" yore work....and theres nothing "wrong" with that, thats fore shore.......eye "mentally support" all who strive 4 moor konducive planet.....

                however, may B another reason others keep koming back sur bernhard iz that they "B leave" N "reiki" sew much, and even tho it iz a valid teknology, it iz all sew knot fully understood hear even buy men E ov thee sew kalled "reiki masters", much less those who have stumbled on2 thee idea......and tho there R men E who will disagree ov korse, thee weigh N witch it iz B ing "used" iz knot only N thee "placebo" scents, all sew N thee "kareer/monetary/making a living from" scents........

                what davidsjelly had 2 say was alot ov what eye was gonna say......eye just used what he sed N a "hear hear!" kinda weigh.....eye didnt C it az an "attack" deer sur......we R simply trying 2 make a point....a SIRIUSLY MAJOR point......Re: guarding a much bigger pikture than say thee personal dynamix B tween U and david, oar others who have issues with eech other....we all have 2 truly kome 2gether rite now kapt.....BIG TIME

                and hears Y....moor than N E thing altho all thee reasons R highly yet subtly extremely interkonnekted.....bernhards "alien agenda"

                1st off, how wood hue manity fend off an "alien N vasion" ov thee sorts bernhard speeks ov if hue manity kant even get along with itself/each other? hhhmmm?

                2nd, even tho bernhards essay was well ritten and thoroughly dun 4 thee most part, it was still quite a bit "fear ridden".....knot that what sum races R kapable ov iznt "skary".....just look at thee result ov thee "alien N vasion" that occured hear 1000's ov years ago....now we have planet ameriKKKa, land ov the greed home ov thee slave.......

                however, fear iz what theze B ingz want U 2 feel.....its one ov thee lower D menshunal freak went C's they feed off ov....

                at thee risk ov sounding all knew age cheezy fluffy duffy, we knead sum SIRIUS love goin on hear....and 2 have that we must have FULL AND UTMOST AND THOROUGH KOMPREHENSION ov what it iz that we're deeling with az a planet........

                basikally we have 2 scenarios occuring at once......thee "planetary awakening" and thee "illuminati agenda"

                given one kan "B leave" N "reiki" then lets kontinue that journey ov "energy workings" shall we?

                az kapt manjushri (and men E others) kan verify, thee origional earth hue manz were very advanced spiritually/teknologikally.....without thee long N depth store E, a partikular legion ov B ingz, "fallen from konshusness" az we say, "N vaded" gaia with ill N tent....this iz thee "alien N vasion" hue manz X ternalize......

                along with this scenario was (and still iz yet will finally "kome 2 a hed" sooner than later) "galaktik drama" eye guess one kood say, where N legions and groupingz ov lower D menshunal konshuss B ingz "withdrew" from thee "main stellar kouncels", what sum wood crudely kall "galaktik federayshun", az well az theze "renegade" B ingz 4md their own "galaktik federayshun"....and this, it appears, iz kauzing quite a bit ov konfusion 2 say thee very least.......

                knot only that.......thee reason that it was sew "E Z" 4 theze B ingz 2 "high jack" thee planet iz dew 2 thee fakt that thee moor advanced hue manz that were hear were knot thee fighting type....did knot battle......have simple meanz ov "D fense", just knot "offensery weaponry".......there4 a komplete withdrawal from gaia was N 0rder.....4 those that managed 2 eskape that iz......

                sew theze lower vibrayshunal B ingz B gan genetik procedures N 0rder 2 kreate a morr "dumbed down" version ov thee origional hue manz, scents thee origional hue man kolonies had KNOT konsented 2 this N trusion.......

                sew 0ver thee follow wing 10,000 years oar sew societies were kreated around thee planet, formed 2 fit a very partikular mined set......

                well, 0ver a relatively short period ov time, civilizayshuns "rose and fell", and now itg iz a kommon thought that what iz occuring now iz just thee next step N that "pattern"......know....tiz thee END ov sed "pattern", az well az thee "end" ov a "great cycle".......

                thats Y thee kalender "ends" at "2012".....kuz now its gonna B A "WHOLE KNEW" ballgame folks.......

                altho, az bernhard will tell ya, we're knot outta thee woods yet sew 2 speek........

                kuz thee ones who "highjaked" earth, knew/know whats happening now, that witch B gan building N momentum round 100 gregorian yeers ago........

                and sew thee "illuminati" set N moshun several taktix ov thee psykologikal nature 2 distort thee data, distrakt thee masses, and further their genetik (and other) agenda(s).........

                thee 1st was thee "war ov thee worlds"....."1930"'s oar sew......

                then thee rozweld incident........

                then hollywood helped bring back thee war ov thee worlds via marz attacks, independence day, alien, etc......

                and then there were thee moor "benevolent" movies such az "ET", klose N kounters ov thee 3rd kind, and star trek.....

                ah, star trek.....even tho it was a bit "cheesy" N sum ov its kontext (especially opening line "...where no "man"? haz gone B4....hehe..n e weigh)........however it prezents thee idea ov an "alliance" ov races ov multiple makeup and origin who have united az a galaktik kommunity, who travel all most limitlessly around thee kozmos........exchanging ideas, kross pollinayshuns ov kulture, yet diffikult 2 konvey with prezent kondishuning........

                and then, about 30 yeerz ago, this fallen legion B gan N filtrayting thee "knew age kommunity" aka "starseeds", with N tent 2 thwart thee mishun ov global awakening.......

                sew this "guardian alliance", "stellar kouncels" assist and 0ver sea thee realmz occording 2 level ov experience........

                and know, they will knot intervene with evolution ov konshusness with few excepshuns......and those few excepshuns, few az they may B, R ov vital knowing......

                mainly dew 2 thee fakt that hue manz, at prezent, and this sed with all dew Re: spekt, R "sum what ill equipped" 2 deel with such az thee wrath ov a race N tent on domin nation........

                and then theres this.......

                thee "awakening".......itz knot just 4 hue manz..........

                another prime direktive, thee one alongside thee intervention protokols, iz "no ONE iz 2 B left out ov attunment"

                Re: pete: no "ONE", knot limited 2 "hue manz" ov thee konventional scents.........

                sew we have a most D lightful inner resting scenario hear.......

                kuz sum, like bernhard, seam 2 think "N E ET appearing 2 "help" iz a trick....B ware"......

                witch leaves hue manity 2 figure out how 2 get out ov thee red tape earth iz tied up with......

                theze B ingz have earth hostage and their using "red tape" and other psykologikal and sum phyzikal meenz 2 keep it az a hostage.....

                yet thee 0mega point approaches......

                and it all komez out N thee wash az they say......

                oh, and buy thee weigh, deep sofa reiki encounters now just 39.95 while supp lies last pricesmayvarysumrestrictionsapplyseestorefordetails

                0mega13
                0ver&@%#*&()!!!
                • Re: starseed trance mishuns ;;>)))

                  Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:49 PM
                  from "year 2012" tribe, kommentary from kapt manjushri

                  and THANK U kapt manjushri

                  "I agree, that Earth Humans need to learn to fix their own problems and I agree that baby-sitting them would not help much..."

                  agreed......

                  "However, They are not even 'Aware' of the crimes being committed, much less able to do anything about it..."

                  AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

                  "However, They are not even 'Aware' of the crimes being committed, much less able to do anything about it..."

                  a MAIN POINT that weave ben attempting 2 make hear folks.......

                  "We have seen this with the other planets that the Draconians have gained control of... down to like 21 in the galaxy... we are one of last..."

                  and eye'll B darned if eye and thee otherz R gonna let this one die out.........

                  divine intervention protokol 93/93-13 DEFINATELY AN 0RDER.....eye mean in order.....hehe

                  SIRIUSLY

                  and again kapt manjushri......thank U
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                    Re: starseed trance mishuns ;;>)))

                    Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:05 PM
                    Divine Intervention by ETs or God in times of near nuclear-war or other Great Devastation....
                    Is like Mom running out in the middle of the street, to scoop up her toddler in time to keep him from being run over by a big truck approaching.....
                    At the same time, the toddler must complete potty training, and go to kindergarden one day, and then master elementary reading, writing, math...... and learn to get along well with the other kids and teacher, without being a bully or one of those kids who gets picked-on constantly.....
                    • Re: starseed trance mishuns ;;>)))

                      Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:50 PM
                      we fully agree linda.......

                      "the toddler must complete potty training, and go to kindergarden one day, and then master elementary reading, writing, math...... and learn to get along well with the other kids and teacher, without being a bully or one of those kids who gets picked-on constantly....."

                      however, when this iz moor than ob V us lee knot occuring, then.........

                      "Divine Intervention by ETs or God in times of near nuclear-war or other Great Devastation....
                      Is like Mom running out in the middle of the street, to scoop up her toddler in time to keep him from being run over by a big truck approaching....."