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When you see images of the green man, Hermes, and the horned gods of many pagan religious paths, it is easy to deduce that the male role is important within out pagan society. When I was younger, I went from elder to elder seeking to understand my role as a male in the ways of the various pagan paths. Although my findings were varied, a single idea prevailed. One of a strong man, full of wisdom. A protector of the innocent and a hunter and provider.
This was somewhat different from the images I was exposed to as a younger pagan male. The men that made up most of the pagan community seemed to be a little more and a little less, when measured to this general sense or idea of a pagan man.
On first impressions of the male pagan, I saw a man full of strong drink, drumming from dusk until dawn, a savage sexual appetite, and servant to the woman of their choosing. On the other hand I could also see a man that cared about his own and all children. I found a wealth of teachings about the land we call mother, and the ways and order of the circle of life we all share.
I must say that many ways and experiences from the pagan men who influenced me greatly, were in my mind conflicting. How could a strong man be a hunter, provider and protector of his clan or those who he was sided and also be sub servant, nurturing and bow to what seemed like a lesser position within our religion?
The men, who I learned from, were all of these things and more. Why then would they seem to take a lesser position within our pagan community?
In talking to a man who had the greatest impact on me as a pagan young man, I learned a lot from my mentor and elder Pond hopper I think he had the greatest impact on me, because he seemed to always have time to answer my often strange questions. He took the time to explain this to me and what I noticed was these were teachings he himself actually lived by.
I remember getting into the subject of pagan male role models and I asked him who his were. His answer surprised me. He said ' the Grey Squirrel'.
His words hit home for me. 'You see, the Grey Squirrel helps his mate to make a house in the trees for the family, he helps her in gathering nuts and food for the long winter'. ' When a wayward bird comes along to attack him and his young, he becomes a fierce fighter, yet to see the male Grey Squirrel with his young, he is tender and playful.'
I thought on this and quickly replied to Pond hopper asking him, ' well what about sharks or fish, who eat their young or leave their young to fend for themselves, never becoming a part of their life?'
I realize his reply to me now was to make me think for myself. He said to me, ' Have you ever heard on the television or read in a paper where a man hurt one of his kids or left his family alone?'
Then he asked me...' Why do you think that is?'
Of course I had no idea at that age as to why. Later on he explained by simply asking, it is funny how we mirror nature and nature seems to mirror us? The fact is we are not being mirrored at all, because we are apart of this circle of life.
We must play our role in this circle. The only difference between the animals and us is the fact that we can choose. We can choose to either be like the Grey Squirrel or like the shark. I pondered this for many years and found a lot of honor in his teachings.
I slowly began to understand that a good pagan man could be fierce and strong when need be. He can be a hunter and he can be a teacher as well.
A mature pagan man also understands that he is apart of a larger circle as well and must learn to adapt, live and work within both the clan family and the natural circles he finds himself in. I learned that there is a natural order and there is a wisdom needed to be able to navigate this order. This is something the pagan male will strive to become comfortable with by making mistakes and testing his bounds.
Falling down, becomes our teacher and the prize is wisdom. I have fallen down a lot in my life and on my pagan path. For that, I thank the gods and pond hopper for the effort and the gift of time they took to raise me to be a pagan man.
I still strive to understand the mother Earth and her circle that I must be a part of. I learned that I would fall down and in doing so I will learn. I know now that the role of the pagan male is something different to all of us depending on the teachers we have had. The way we have gained our wisdom to navigate the circles we are in are important. They are as important and those elders who take the time to teach us.
I am reminded that in my life as a pagan male, I am a role model for those younger men who watch me. They look to me for the knowledge needed to find their place within the circle as hunters, providers, protectors, servants, and men of real wisdom. I know that I owe a debt to the circle of life.
I know now that Pond Hopper was a man that understood the need to lead by example. I also know that while I may fall down, this is not the end of me. To be strong enough to do that means that I am not relegated to a lesser role within the pagan religion. My role is very well defined and the gods and my mentors are my guides.
Author: Panisch Lockelear
Posted: July 27th. 2008 on Witchvox
This was somewhat different from the images I was exposed to as a younger pagan male. The men that made up most of the pagan community seemed to be a little more and a little less, when measured to this general sense or idea of a pagan man.
On first impressions of the male pagan, I saw a man full of strong drink, drumming from dusk until dawn, a savage sexual appetite, and servant to the woman of their choosing. On the other hand I could also see a man that cared about his own and all children. I found a wealth of teachings about the land we call mother, and the ways and order of the circle of life we all share.
I must say that many ways and experiences from the pagan men who influenced me greatly, were in my mind conflicting. How could a strong man be a hunter, provider and protector of his clan or those who he was sided and also be sub servant, nurturing and bow to what seemed like a lesser position within our religion?
The men, who I learned from, were all of these things and more. Why then would they seem to take a lesser position within our pagan community?
In talking to a man who had the greatest impact on me as a pagan young man, I learned a lot from my mentor and elder Pond hopper I think he had the greatest impact on me, because he seemed to always have time to answer my often strange questions. He took the time to explain this to me and what I noticed was these were teachings he himself actually lived by.
I remember getting into the subject of pagan male role models and I asked him who his were. His answer surprised me. He said ' the Grey Squirrel'.
His words hit home for me. 'You see, the Grey Squirrel helps his mate to make a house in the trees for the family, he helps her in gathering nuts and food for the long winter'. ' When a wayward bird comes along to attack him and his young, he becomes a fierce fighter, yet to see the male Grey Squirrel with his young, he is tender and playful.'
I thought on this and quickly replied to Pond hopper asking him, ' well what about sharks or fish, who eat their young or leave their young to fend for themselves, never becoming a part of their life?'
I realize his reply to me now was to make me think for myself. He said to me, ' Have you ever heard on the television or read in a paper where a man hurt one of his kids or left his family alone?'
Then he asked me...' Why do you think that is?'
Of course I had no idea at that age as to why. Later on he explained by simply asking, it is funny how we mirror nature and nature seems to mirror us? The fact is we are not being mirrored at all, because we are apart of this circle of life.
We must play our role in this circle. The only difference between the animals and us is the fact that we can choose. We can choose to either be like the Grey Squirrel or like the shark. I pondered this for many years and found a lot of honor in his teachings.
I slowly began to understand that a good pagan man could be fierce and strong when need be. He can be a hunter and he can be a teacher as well.
A mature pagan man also understands that he is apart of a larger circle as well and must learn to adapt, live and work within both the clan family and the natural circles he finds himself in. I learned that there is a natural order and there is a wisdom needed to be able to navigate this order. This is something the pagan male will strive to become comfortable with by making mistakes and testing his bounds.
Falling down, becomes our teacher and the prize is wisdom. I have fallen down a lot in my life and on my pagan path. For that, I thank the gods and pond hopper for the effort and the gift of time they took to raise me to be a pagan man.
I still strive to understand the mother Earth and her circle that I must be a part of. I learned that I would fall down and in doing so I will learn. I know now that the role of the pagan male is something different to all of us depending on the teachers we have had. The way we have gained our wisdom to navigate the circles we are in are important. They are as important and those elders who take the time to teach us.
I am reminded that in my life as a pagan male, I am a role model for those younger men who watch me. They look to me for the knowledge needed to find their place within the circle as hunters, providers, protectors, servants, and men of real wisdom. I know that I owe a debt to the circle of life.
I know now that Pond Hopper was a man that understood the need to lead by example. I also know that while I may fall down, this is not the end of me. To be strong enough to do that means that I am not relegated to a lesser role within the pagan religion. My role is very well defined and the gods and my mentors are my guides.
Author: Panisch Lockelear
Posted: July 27th. 2008 on Witchvox
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Re: The Pagan Man
Sun, November 23, 2008 - 11:21 AMAnd yet, though I find myself in the position of this role model, I find none for myself. The pagan communities I know are heavily female-biased, and all but one of the other men interested in "men's mysteries" are gay.
There seems very little or no interest in this subject among straight men outside myself.
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Re: The Pagan Man
Sun, November 23, 2008 - 5:56 PMAre you saying that gay men aren't "real men" and can't appreciate the "male mysteries"? -
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Re: The Pagan Man
Sun, November 23, 2008 - 9:36 PMI don't think he's saying that at all. All I hear him asking is why is it that only gay guys are into the male mysteries. He's wondering why his fellow hets aren't. -
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Re: The Pagan Man
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 11:12 AMI don't know why either. It's always perplexed me, but I think that maybe it has to do with some hetrosexual men having trouble breaking through the sterotype that society has placed on the "traditional " roles of men, both gay and straight, which is really infair. Alot of guys have problems expressing emotion because they think that's it's either a sign of weakness or they will be judged for it by their peers as "soft", or worse - as "homos".
It's my sincere prayer that society can break these sterotypes that are keeping us from uniting as a brotherhood. -
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Re: The Pagan Man
Mon, November 24, 2008 - 5:29 PMI agree with Acorn. Aside from everything else, you have to be sensitive to energy and put your ego aside to be a pagan. Monotheistic religions have priests, which a lot of men gravitate towards, but there is a lot of power there. Paganism doesn't have a government really, so it doesn't play into the power thing.
And it's hard to break the mold and be yourself. Boys are taught to be like all the other boys from an early age (don't play with this, do play with that, don't dress like this, etc). Gay men have not only had to break out of that in order to come out, but they also they have been rejected from "traditional" spiritual paths and so are more likely to search for an alternative.
That's my little idea at least.
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Re: The Pagan Man
Mon, February 9, 2009 - 8:17 PMI think a lot of what you have said here is spot on. And I very much understand the feeling of having a hard time finding fellow Het men who have much interest in the male mysteries. (Though the gay men I know who are involved are great guys and great friends. I wouldn't change them for the world.)
Like some of the posters, I had no real role models growing up and found the Pagan and Heathen community near me to be very female focused and sometimes even heavily biased against men.
I've been working on a website to be something of a resource for Pagan and Heathen Men and have often thought how wonderful it would be to try and start something like the Boy Scouts but for Pagan and Heathen youths who really need some good role models.