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So after about a month of turning my meditation focus towards OBEs I DID IT....kinda. I just woke up from it about 10 mins ago. It was very real. I was laying down meditating (I prefer laying down over sitting), and I opened my eye to see a elderly black man laying across my body with an elbow on my chest. (Yeah, for real, it sounds odd but it was very real), I attemped to push him off with my arms, for what felt like, 5mins and then I look to realize my physical arms weren't moving (it was my astral body). I lifted my leg and had the same result, I could move every part of my body except for my chest (or heart?) because that was where the old man had his elbow. After getting no where wrestling with the man, I realized he was doing me a favor by holding my body down (I could see his mouth move but I couldn't hear him). I rolled over and out of my body then I was immediately back in my body. So I closed my eyes and rolled out, I stumbled down the hall and asked for sight. But when I opened my eyes I was back in my body with the old man still laying across me. I came back soon after.
I could stay out of my body until I tried to see... I couldn't hear the astral creatures either because the man was trying to talk to me and I heard nothing. So, any pointers for gaining vision and hearing while out of body?
I know the old black man sounds irregular, if anyone has comments on him I'd enjoy your response. I don't think he was negative, when I first saw him my reaction wasn't fear and he wasn't violent towards me... just holding me down, like I said, it seemed like he was doing me a favor.
I could stay out of my body until I tried to see... I couldn't hear the astral creatures either because the man was trying to talk to me and I heard nothing. So, any pointers for gaining vision and hearing while out of body?
I know the old black man sounds irregular, if anyone has comments on him I'd enjoy your response. I don't think he was negative, when I first saw him my reaction wasn't fear and he wasn't violent towards me... just holding me down, like I said, it seemed like he was doing me a favor.
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Re: I DID IT!!!!... kinda (Every time I tried to use vision it sent me back)
Mon, August 17, 2009 - 3:56 AMHey Matthew,
Wow, sounds like you are well on your way to venturing astrally whilst conscious! Awesome!
i've just begun this course,which i am finding very informative and sensible. Exremely safe too : )
Maybe you could have a look and see what you think of these teachings for astral projection, or
'Dream Yoga'....
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on many topics concerning Spiritual development and including audio 'lectures' on astral projection.
See what you think, I'd be interested to hear.
Love,
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Re: I DID IT!!!!... kinda (Every time I tried to use vision it sent me back)
Sat, August 29, 2009 - 5:45 AMMatthew,
I'm not sure in which way would this man doing you a favor by holding your body like that. Usually it can be hard as it is to step out of the body at the moment of split, not to mention when someone is holding you down like that. Only thing I can think of how he could help you like that is by ensuring you that you wont move your physical body while exiting it. Keep in mind though that there are all kinds of spirits in astral. Those with bad intentions don't want us to explore the astral, but fortunately they hang out mostly on lower levels, so no need to worry about them. I'm not saying the one you encounter was one of those, it could also be some helpful spirit, it's just good to use some protection (such as recitations, circle of protection etc.)so not to have risk of them ruining your projection and travel.
Regarding vision, are you sure your eyes were closed when you rolled out of body and wanted to open them? If you are sure about it then it is not uncommon that when opening the astral eyes, you accidentally open your physical eyes and return back. It's also common for people not to have sight while close to physical body, so it would be good to get away from it. When you get away from it and still don't have sight (without opening the astral eyes first), then you could try to ground yourself in the astral. You do this by touching or grabbing any astral object, floor works too. It is good to do this every time when in the astral, regardless if you have sight or not, and then repeating the grounding every once in a while. If you still wont have sight after grounding while away from physical body and then opening the eyes, then we can try something else.
Regarding the hearing, I'm not entirely sure but it could be that you were still not fully detached from the physical body and were still not using all of the astral senses. If that's the case then you should get the hearing as soon as you come out of the body.
Good luck,
