who started it?
how is it formed?
who's in it?
is anyone allowed in? or can be a part of?
why is the word 'community' so important? why is it used?
is the word a replacement for the 80s and 90s 'networking'?
what is it for?
doing things good things for the "greater good", or for society in general...is well, good!
but what's it's in for you?
has anyone benefited here? and how?
why does it on one level.. appear a bit, semi-cult like to me?
and even... having the affect of sealing out part of the general world we live in?
also... why do you need a "reason" to party?
why not just party for the fun, and the hell of it?
why?
i am an easterner... and have found that, 8 times out of 10... someone smiling at me
and appearing to want to help, just wanted to screw me over. is it different in the west coast?
why don't i think so?
anyone?
anyone?
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Re: what is this community of which you speak of?
Tue, December 20, 2005 - 1:28 PMi'm not sure which community you mean, but in general...
who started it?
-communities evolve.
how is it formed?
-organically.
who's in it?
-those who naturally fit.
is anyone allowed in? or can be a part of?
-isn't it usually self selecting?
why is the word 'community' so important? why is it used?
-isn't that what it is? a group of people joining forces on some level(s) based on common goals/interests/needs/values.
is the word a replacement for the 80s and 90s 'networking'?
-to me, networking implies a more self-serving, rather than cooperative, intention.
what is it for?
-because we can accomplish more together than we can alone.
doing things good things for the "greater good", or for society in general...is well, good!
but what's it's in for you?
-seems like you just answered your own question, unless you don't feel like you benefit from a "greater good".
has anyone benefited here? and how?
-immensely! resources & knowledge get shared, work gets done faster/better, support nets form, close friendships & relationships are born & deepened, people are able to live their truths, and fucktons of fun are had in the process.
why does it on one level.. appear a bit, semi-cult like to me?
- what is "it"?
and even... having the affect of sealing out part of the general world we live in?
- we all in some way choose how we spend our time, and who with. sure, that eclipses other people/things, but every one, every community, does it. having your "peeps" does not necessarily breed closed-mindedness, if that's the argument you're making.
also... why do you need a "reason" to party?
- who says you do?
why not just party for the fun, and the hell of it?
- exactly.
i am an easterner... and have found that, 8 times out of 10... someone smiling at me
and appearing to want to help, just wanted to screw me over. is it different in the west coast?
-is it geographical? perhaps it is because you *expect* that people will screw you over, and in doing so you play a part in creating that experience for yourself.
why don't i think so?
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Re: what is this community of which you speak of?
Wed, December 21, 2005 - 1:53 AM<<i am an easterner... and have found that, 8 times out of 10... someone smiling at me
and appearing to want to help, just wanted to screw me over. is it different in the west coast? >>
Wow, I was blown away from your post. First I thought you were bitter and jaded, maybe you are, but then I got to the bottom and read this... Holly crap! If that is how it is in the East then I would have to say that the west is definitively, absolutely and incredibly different. But having been to the east I would say that I am either seriously naive, blind, both or life is all a matter of perspective and point of view. My advice is if you don't like how things are around you then look at yourself and change something within. You will be amazed at how the world around you will then change accordingly... Be well my friend. -
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Re: what is this community of which you speak of?
Wed, December 21, 2005 - 2:17 AM
"-is it geographical? perhaps it is because you *expect* that people will screw you over, and in doing so you play a part in creating that experience for yourself.
why don't i think so?
- why don't you try not thinking so, genuinely (not cynically) and see where it gets you?"
nope, i am not cynical.. just getting more realistic.
and i have dealt with many in business and on a personal level
and honeslty.. it's how it is.
the last guy i trusted, a couple of months ago... stole 100 bucks from me.
(nevermind my last partners, long story)
and strangely.. i'm not bitter or jaded either
i'm screwed up that way...
i read your posts... good answers
except for the one i quoted.
and i have a couple more.
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Re: what is this community of which you speak of?
Wed, January 4, 2006 - 5:19 PM"the last guy i trusted, a couple of months ago... stole 100 bucks from me. "
wow...is that really true, that the last time you trusted someone was months ago?
a thought: instead of requiring people to earn your *trust*, why not experiment with assuming they won't do something to deserve your *distrust* and see if that makes a difference in the number & frequency of negative experiences you have?
cuz we're all, you know, pretty powerful in that we have the ability to create the experiences we want in this world, and the choice whether or not to be a victim.
good luck to you!
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Re: what is this community of which you speak of?
Thu, January 5, 2006 - 3:39 AMWell said Sinthia!
Yanni, I trust people first and let them lose it. For the most part people are wonderful, amazing and as much in need of love and trust as you yourself are Yanni.
Be open to the good in them and it might just manifest to you. If you give off the impression that you lack trust in them, some people's defences will automatically go up, and you both miss an opportunity to connect.
I just lent a good friend of mine a considerable sum of money. We have no written agreement and I can tell you that I don't lose a minute of sleep over it. The trust is complete and mutual.
Funny I look around at my life and I have that kind of relationship with LOTS of good people (and no I'm not going to lend money over the internet). I have the most amazing community of people around me. We evolved organically around a few good folk that attracted others and we are a close-nit but not cliquey group of friends.
I've met soooo many good people through a smile across a room or street that I can't even keep track of them all!!!
You are surrounded by them Yanni -- you just have to reach out to them with a truly open heart. It is a tall order but it is better to have loved and lost then never to have loved at all.
I have been betrayed or cheated in the past but I always assume that the other person was the one that lost out and I never assume the next person will do the same. We are all unique and one just has to have the emotional strength to bounce back and dust off and smile again at the next person to walk by... and mean it.
Hugs,
Yasir
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Re: what is this community of which you speak of?
Sat, September 2, 2006 - 4:12 PMwhat is this community of which you speak of? I believe the term here is being used in the abstract, There are many different types, with many different focuses, and aspects. If I am interpreting correctly, as a newbee here, I would think the definition would be a joint effort toward a common goal. As for the rest of your questions, I will answer as an individual with my own "community" goals and see if any of the information is something YOU find useful.
who started it? GOD, Then many others throughout history, until it trickled down to me. In reality all forms of society other than sometimes anarchy, are different types of communities. I'll let the anarchists argue for their views later.
how is it formed? When more than one person focuses on achieving the same goal together.
who's in it? Those who get off their Okole and do it.
A) is anyone allowed in? within reason. Rapists, murders, pedifiles and chronically lazy or disturbing people may be excepted.... B) or can be a part of? Sure, why not? you get what you give!
A) why is the word 'community' so important? I'm not certain the word is important, other than being a means to express a thought. But perhaps in your case, being misinterpreted, it is completely useless.
B) why is it used? See the first part of the answer to part (A)
is the word a replacement for the 80s and 90s 'networking'? I would think not. In general, networking was a way of making connections with people, but the goal was individually self serving. Community is more about making connections that serve everyone involved and perhaps future generations as well.
what is it for? Survival, making hard tasks easier, friendship, entertainment, access to a greater variety of skills and resources, and ONE LOVE Bradda. Get used to it.
doing things good things for the "greater good", or for society in general...is well, good!
but what's it's in for you? The same things that are in it for you, so why not do it?
A) has anyone benefited here? Do you mean on Earth, Yes! B) and how? look at history, every society is also a community. The benefits are why each and every society was formed. Again, there are many different types, with many different focuses, and aspects
why does it on one level.. appear a bit, semi-cult like to me? Because that's what your cult brainwashed you into believing. If you don't explore and research for yourself, then your only cerebral resource is the tainted information you have been given. That is not to say that there are not cults that form communities as well. Just that not all communities are cults, or have cultish requirements.
and even... having the affect of sealing out part of the general world we live in? Some MAY do as you say, but not all of them. Mine is an example of working with and along side the greater society. members.fortunecity.com/fbush2...de.html Just with a code that is less selfish than the, me, me, me philosophy.
also... why do you need a "reason" to party? Huh, I guess I missed the comment you are referring to.
why not just party for the fun, and the hell of it? Works for me, As long as the important stuff gets done.
why? You tell me.
i am an easterner... and have found that, 8 times out of 10... someone smiling at me
and appearing to want to help, just wanted to screw me over. is it different in the west coast? Well, It is on Hawaii. But I'll frown at you , or make a goofy face if it makes you feel better.
why don't i think so? you have had trouble dealing with life disappointments, and you need some psychological help. "Community" is a great way to find people to relate to, who can grow to love you in return, because you get what you give! And they don't charge you $60 to $200 an hour for YOU to figure out what YOU think your problem is.
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