No I am a looser I am still on that God Auwful Effexor. But it does keep me above ground. Kinda like insulin to diabetics. I remember when they had pig and beef insulin that was used which was pretty rough for some to use. I think thats where we are with certain types of depression.

“The Antidepressant Solution” By Joseph Glenmullen M.D.
I highly recommend “The Antidepressant Solution” By Joseph Glenmullen M.D. This book is full of useful information!

www.prozacbacklash.com/

I can not say enough about this book. In my opinion doctors should be required to pass out this book with every sample blister pack of Antidepressants and they should all be made to read the book out loud to one another and then take a test!

This site is full of useful info for quitting and helping with depression

Drinking and Effexor

SSRi's and Alcohol
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fiddaman.blogspot.com/2009/11...hol.html

An interesting pdf file was sent to me from a fellow advocate last night. I only have the summary but it throws light on the subject of consuming alcohol whilst on SSRi's.

The findings:

from
Abstracts of the 9th World Congress of Biological Psychiatry, Paris, June 2009

P-10-004
Violence as a side - effect of antidepressants: Provocation by alcohol
David Menkes
University of Auckland, Waikato Clinical School, Hamilton, New Zealand
Andrew Herxheimer

Objectives: Based on case-reports and epidemiological data, we reported the rare induction of serious violence by antidepressant treatment (PLoS Med 3(9): e372). Given alcohol’s prevalence and tendency to disinhibit behaviour, we studied its association with SSRI-induced violence.

Methods: We analyzed some 200 cases drawn from our medicolegal practices, web-based patient discussion lists, and ADR reports to government authorities in Canada and the USA. Assessment was based on standard criteria for drug-effect causality (CIOMS), taking into account apparent sources of bias.

Results: A distinct syndrome of uncharacteristic disinhibition with alcohol was detected in 40 individuals of either sex during treatment with SSRIs or venlafaxine. Outcomes included 12 homicides (2 of which were double), suicide, serious assault, unintended sexual intercourse, and other damaging or markedly embarrassing social behaviour. In the majority of cases, memory for the episode was lacking, often completely so. For most individuals, modest or usual amounts of alcohol were involved, with evidence that these had been well tolerated before antidepressant treatment,and after its discontinuation (challenge-dechallenge). In several cases, re-exposure to the same or related antidepressant reproduced the phenomenon (rechallenge).

Conclusions: We identify a distinct and forensically important interaction between alcohol and SSRI antidepressants. Aggregated pharmacovigilance data (in preparation) corroborate the existence of this phenomenon. We suggest that antidepressant product warnings regarding alcohol, hitherto non-specific and unhelpful, will need to be reconsidered.

Very true

DO NOT SUDDENLY QUIT ANY SSNRI, SSRI or MAOI!

Half life of various antidepressants

Effexor and effexor XR 5 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 1 or 2

Cymbalta half-life 12 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 1 or 2


Antidepressant______halflife_______Frequency of withdrawal reactions

Effexor____________5 hours_____________78%
Paxil_____________21 hours_____________66%
Zoloft____________26 hours_____________60%
Prozac___________4-6 days_____________14%

Source: “The Antidepressant Solution”
by Joseph Glenmullen, M.D.

Luvox half-life 15.6 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 2-3

Serzone half-life 11 to 24 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 2-3

Paxil CR half-life 21 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 2-3

Paxil half-life 21 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 2-3

Wellbutrin and Wellbutrin SR or XL half-life 21 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 2-3

Zoloft half-life 26 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 3-4

Lexapro half-life 27-32 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 3-5

Remeron half-life 20-40 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 3-5

Celexa half-life 35 hours Typical onset of withdrawal Day 3-6

Prozac half-life 4 to 6 days Typical onset of withdrawal Day 2-3 weeks

source “The Antidepressant Solution” By Joseph Glenmullen, M.D.

Serzone
•Serzone (nefazodone), also properly an SNRI. The brand name Serzone has been withdrawn from use in the U.S. and several other countries due to the possibility of liver failure, but the generic nefazodone is still available.
It is no longer available in Europe or Canada. I am always skeptical of a wonder drug don't think I would ever buy into any drug again unless I was dying then I would still think hard on it.