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  <title>New ESA Mars proposals... - Mars - tribe.net</title>
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    <title>Re: New ESA Mars proposals...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Yoshi</name>
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    <id>http://tribes.tribe.net/thread/c7063362-1399-4364-8a3b-e3d91d0ad690#4930f7ca-5d1e-40e3-afb4-171f165591bf</id>
    <updated>2005-04-13T19:20:02Z</updated>
    <published>2005-04-13T19:20:02Z</published>
    <summary type="html">And by the time humans go to Mars, say conservatively in 20 years or so (though I'd prefer much sooner), the trip might be made shorter due to nuclear (pronounced "nookyalur", of course) propulsion, vis-a-vis the Prometheus Project.  But we shall see...</summary>
    <dc:creator>Yoshi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-04-13T19:20:02Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: New ESA Mars proposals...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Gem E</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://tribes.tribe.net/thread/c7063362-1399-4364-8a3b-e3d91d0ad690#d21b8480-8154-4fec-a9cc-87aaadcb1139</id>
    <updated>2005-04-13T19:14:58Z</updated>
    <published>2005-04-13T19:14:58Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Humans will keep shooting for Mars. It is just too close and too tantalizing to be left alone for long. Eventually, one group will send robots which will retrieve material and return it to Earth. Sooner or later humans will go, despite the enormous risks involved. Mars after all is right next door.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Gem E</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-04-13T19:14:58Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: New ESA Mars proposals...</title>
    <link rel="alternate" href="http://tribes.tribe.net/thread/c7063362-1399-4364-8a3b-e3d91d0ad690#2098c06d-f62e-4e72-a242-2015bc59639f" />
    <author>
      <name>Adam</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://tribes.tribe.net/thread/c7063362-1399-4364-8a3b-e3d91d0ad690#2098c06d-f62e-4e72-a242-2015bc59639f</id>
    <updated>2005-04-13T03:12:27Z</updated>
    <published>2005-04-13T03:12:27Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Good post Yoshi!&#xD;
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The article brings up an important prerequisite step we have all forgotten about when discussing a manned trip to the red planet: We still have to successfully get an unmanned vehicle to safely return before we go sending human guinea pigs out there.  The article says they are aiming at a 2016 deadline for that.  &#xD;
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I hope Europe's next launch works better than the last one.  That was sad.  You'd think that Mars' low gravity would make it easier to soft land on.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-04-13T03:12:27Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>New ESA Mars proposals...</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Yoshi</name>
    </author>
    <id>http://tribes.tribe.net/thread/c7063362-1399-4364-8a3b-e3d91d0ad690#95cd820e-4564-4e1f-a4e1-cad3f389d5f0</id>
    <updated>2005-04-08T13:36:28Z</updated>
    <published>2005-04-08T13:36:28Z</published>
    <summary type="html">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4423883.stm</summary>
    <dc:creator>Yoshi</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2005-04-08T13:36:28Z</dc:date>
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