Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

topic posted Thu, February 12, 2009 - 4:22 PM by  Ben
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Am I right in assuming this is *not* a good idea?

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  • Re: Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

    Thu, February 12, 2009 - 7:40 PM
    Sorry to reply to my own post but...I just read that hydrogen peroxide is bad for spores.
    What about Liquid culture?
    • Re: Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

      Fri, February 13, 2009 - 8:29 AM
      If liquid culture is done properly you should not need to add peroxide. If you are getting contamination in culture then refining the process to prohibit that will be more effective than using peroxide.
      • Re: Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

        Fri, February 13, 2009 - 4:23 PM
        Not really *in* the culture...as my understanding is that spores react negatively to H202.
        I worry about contamination of substrate....and am curious about how inoculating peroxide treated sub with 'spore syringe' or LC
        would do.

        Thanks for the response though.
        • Re: Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

          Tue, February 17, 2009 - 9:49 PM
          I think the single best investment you can make is to get a laminar flow hood. You can pour your casings in front of it in addition to doing your jars. It does a beautiful job of keeping out unwelcome guests.
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    Re: Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

    Fri, September 11, 2009 - 10:50 AM
    peroxide acts by oxidizing any reactive substance it comes in contact with. it also neutralizes and evaporates fairly quickly. both qualities make it great for sterilizing but bad for anything you'd like to keep alive and thriving. i have used peroxide to quickly destroy small patches of contam on my substrates, but if you use a pressure cooker to sterilize, or even a large stock pot to pasteurize your sub, along with lamar flow hoods and simple sterile procedures you should idealy have no contam at all ;)
    • Re: Peroxide on Grain Substrates?

      Sat, September 12, 2009 - 12:30 AM
      If you are experiencing contamination in the initial colonization phase with spore or spawn, consider your substrate. Is it high in nutrient content? If you are using rye/grain or compost to spore or spawn into with liquid culture, the extra nutrients in these substrates can be attractive for other unwanted guests at your most vulnerable point in the process. If you have rudimentary sterilization procedures, consider changing to a less nutritious substrate for initial spawning or sporeing into.

      A good way to use highly nutritious spawn substrate, which is advantages for higher yields, is to buy presterilized compost/grain and just spawn into mycobags. Then when the mycobags are colonized, mix them in your fruiting substrate and you are pretty well protected if you have enough spawn, as mycelium will be faster at this point than other stuff most of the time.

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