There is much more at stake ahead of us besides this election. For the first time in my life at age 35 I have lost hope in the political process in the United States. I truly believe that putting your faith in any of the candidates could be harmful to your future. Obama is backed by Zbigniew Brzezinski who wrote "The Grand Chessboard." All of the candidates are bought by corporations following a common model not much different from the Bush team. Who ever wins the election will inherit the worst crap in U.S. history. "Watch what they do...and stop listening to what they say." -Noam Chompsky

You'll see the next administration turning it's focus to Africa...AFRICOM. Wake up people! Save yourself and make the right decisions in your life without relying so much on politicians and fabricated speeches.
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Glenny
SF Bay Area
  • Here's the deal. I don't rely on ANYONE for ANYTHING to give me the experience of life that I want to have... much less a politician.

    I think that Obama WILL make an extraordinary president, but that is NOT what's going to make MY life extraordinary. I AM!

    I just think it's HIGH time that there was a leader of this nation that I actually respected and resonated with. I think it's HIGH time that this nation had a leader that had INTEGRITY and was HONEST. I think it's HIGH time that this nation had a leader that is a realist AND can look on the bright side and fight for a future that stems from unity, possibility and passion.

    I'm over having ridiculously LOW expectations of our leaders. I'm ready to have one that thinks BIG and acts like he has a freaking clue.

    I'm ready to have a 'leader' like Barack Obama with infinite promise in the face of all the crap that he is going to inherit.

    There is no quick fix for what Bush, and for that matter, Slick Willy, dumped on us. I do think that the stage can be set to shift into another mode of thinking and being altogether. I know this because it is already happening. People inspired by this man are doing thing they've never done before, like donating to school programs and cleaning up neighborhoods, etc.. It's a movement. It's not about HIM. It's about what WE are ready to step into in OUR consciousness. He just does a great job at lighting the torch that WE get to run with.

    I don't personally need a leader as I am my own leader, but I do recognize the impact that a capable, inspirational leader can have on the populace. A little bit of inspiration can go a heck of a long way. Lord knows this nation and this world has been without that for WAY to long on the global leader stage.

    Bring it on, Barack.

    I am the one I've been waiting for. You are the leader I've been waiting for. I don't need you, but I sure as hell appreciate you.

    Peace.
    • I wish I had more hope like you do in the political process. I'm glad that you have a positive outlook in general. Personally I think the entire political process is a lost cause due to the structure of corporate power over government. Any candidate that ends up in the White House will be controlled by Bilderberg.... otherwise destroyed politically or physically. Look what happened to John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy.
      Naturally I would choose Obama over Hilary if I chose to vote this year but I refuse to vote. This will be the first time in my life that I choose not to vote. My vote will be through action...not by ballot. A vote by boycott is actually more powerful than this worthless corporate election. This nation lost it's true liberty and freedom in 1913 to the Federal Reserve and the IRS. The United Nations was also created to spread world domination under a "friendly name." This is a fact of history and not my opinion. What we have today appears to be freedom but it's really not. None of the candidates talk about restoring the Constitution and dismantling the Patriot Act. Bush made sure that all of this was set in place. If you understood the Patriot Act..then you'd understand that the election no longer really matters. This nation has been hijacked by greedy rich private bankers that control oil, military defense contractors and the fiat currency called the dollar. People who believe in this election don't really understand history. Obama is advised by an evil man named Brzezinsky Zbigniew. I'm sure Obama has good intentions but he will be controlled by corporate power. The issues like health care and education etc...are important things but nothing compared to what's really at stake.
      • Glenny, my hope is not in the political process. It is in me. It is in you. It is in my community, in our communities. It is in what I believe to be the intrinsic good nature of people.

        There isn't anything that you just said about the Federal Reserve, the IRS or the corporattocracy that I'm not already aware of. I know within 'the system' how free we aren't. It will take nothing short of a mass uprising by the people to change that.

        Will that happen? I don't know. How bad do conditions have to get for that to happen? I don't know. But it must. You are right. Much is at stake. We can't depend upon any one leader to overhaul the system, but we can have a leader that WANTS to move us in the right direction at least. I'm willing to give Barack the benefit of the doubt in making his own decisions. He strikes me as an independent thinker. I doubt he'll be a puppet like Bush. Bush doesn't have much choice about that. He doesn't have a brain.

        Just so you know, Barack HAS stated that he will restore our civil liberties as established by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. He intends to repeal the aspects of the Patriot Act that are most harmful to our civil rights. He happens to LOVE the Constitution. He was a Constitutional scholar and lectured on it for 10 years at a University in Chicago. He speaks about being a president who respects and upholds the Constitution.

        I have no doubt that he will. I haven't heard Hillary or McCain speak to this. They may have, but I certainly haven't heard about it.

        Anyway, gotta run.

        Keep fighting the good fight. It really is up to US.
        • Very well said, Kalla B!

          I feel obliged to respond to the comments about Z. Brzezinski. He may be ONE of Obama's advisors, but he's far from the only one. Samantha Power will probably, I think, have a high-profile role in the foreign policy of an Obama administration, probably much higher than Brzezinski's. Power's views are forged by the concepts of human rights and social justice, and a foreign policy informed by those concerns will be much more humane and globally caring than the policies of the last two or three administrations have been.
          • "much more humane" is correct. It seems that the Obama speeches are just put more politely than Bush's arrogant way of speaking. Obama calls for removal of troops in Iraq to end the war, but his plan calls for continued support for the region using Iraq as a U.S. military command center. This leaves tens of thousands of troops in the region to support the oil operations. What Obama really means is pulling most of the troops out to appeal to the voters. This doesn't end the war....?????? My point is any president will be forced to comply with oil interests of this Nation. They just make it seem more humane in the speeches. Watch what he does. It won't be nearly as bad as Bush but it will be along the same corporate interest. It doesn't matter how good your intentions are if your bosses are corporate war criminals.
            • Glen, where are you getting your information from? Because Obama has stated that he will remove one to two combat brigades each month and have all combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. He has also left the contingency that if Al Qaeda builds bases in Iraq he will leave sufficient troupes to deal with that problem. I think we all agree that Al Qaeda is a serious threat to this country, yet we all agree that they are not currently present in any organized format in that nation. And yet again you come back to Barack being tied to corporate interests. Where does that come from? It is a grass roots campaign sans major corporate donors. Of course every president is going to have to keep oil in this country until such a time as we are free of dependancy on that substance. Would you rather we expand offshore drilling along the Pacific Coast? How about up in Alaska? I mean it's an entire state populated by less than the population of San Francisco. Hell, it's about 570,000 square miles with less than two people per square mile. Don't want to use oil? Cool, earn the money in this economy to go solar, go off the grid by buying sufficient solar storage cells so you don't have to deal with PG&E, figure out a way to manufacture that solar system without using fossil fuels, figure out a computer and internet access without fossil fuels, etc.

              My point is that there is no easy answer to truly going oil free without a complete tear down of the global economy (not just the USA). We'll get there, but likely not in our lifetimes. But for the first time in my life we have a candidate that has them running scared. For the first time we have a candidate that they consider dangerous. 80% carbon reduction by 2050 is a fucking aggressive plan when you weigh in to account how truly dependant we are on crude (taking in to account that 20% of crude is used for gasoline, 10% for diesel, 4% for jet fuel, and the balance for industrial manufacturing and LPG). Yeah, we need oil. I hate that we need oil. But I am goddamned glad that Obama is taking a realistic, non-pipe dream approach to addressing the issue. And I'm also glad that the oil companies are fighting him tooth and nail and losing every time. We have them scared. He has them scared. That makes me smile a little bit more than I have been for a long time.
              • To be honest I'm not following the election details or campaign details at all. I just don't have the hope or energy to watch it. My information is from various things I read on the internet too many to list. You are right that we live in a world that is completely dependent on oil because the oil corporations planned it that way. My info about Obama leaving troops and bases in the middle east is from oilempire.com
                U.S. troops will remain in the region placed at key bases in Iraq, near the border of Iran, along the border of Syria and of course in Saudi Arabia. It seems that Obama will remove the major brigades but he won't end the occupation of bases and troops entirely. Hillary won't do it is she wins and certainly McCain won't even come close. You know far more about the Obama campaign than I do and I hope you're right. I seriously hope I'm wrong about everything I say because I want somebody to prevail and make things better. I'm just not convinced until I see it happen.
                • Okay, cool. Good update. I understand that some people don't take a detailed interest in politics. I'm a junkie with this stuff. This is my personal Super Bowl, Crack Cocaine, and Porn Addictions all rolled in to one. I read biographies like most people read cereal boxes. I hesitate at Protest Sites because I have typically found them to be slanted and often erroneous. I've never reviewed the OilEmpire.com site, but I assure you that I will over the weekend.

                  Don't lose Hope, Glenny. That is exactly what the dominant paradigm shoots for. If we remove hope we remove dreams. A lack of dreams is a lack of imagination. What we are on the path for is a return of imagination; a return of 'what if'. Obama isn't my ideal without compromise. But he is pretty goddamned close.

                  Obama in 08.
      • Glenny, I'm surprised it's taken you this long to become sick of the political process. Interesting to think that there are people like you who may just now be getting sick of it when I became disheartened and sick by it about 8 years ago. This is the first time in all that time that I have real honest to goodness hope for this country. It was back in 2000 when I finally figured out that the corporations run much of the government and also when I figured out that the political system is truly corrupt and screwed up. But I think we are on the right track for once in a long time.

        I hope you have a change of heart at some point before November and decide to vote. I always tell people that if you don't at least attempt to voice your opinion by voting that you have no right to bitch about anything that happens in government. Yes, I agree that the voting system is messed up. But I don't think it makes us voiceless. It has some merit, little as it may be. People's voices do get heard. And we all need to work together to make sure our voices are heard even louder.
        • Very true, but I think our voices are heard and then laughed at. I think it's more powerful to boycott as much corporate and banking interest as possible by action. This seems to be much more powerful than voting on a ballot or marching in a protest. I think what we fail to see is we want another president to lead us under the same corrupt system. The Federal Reserve System is basically what the Civil War was fought over. Our founding fathers wanted to avoid living under the same system in England. As long as it exists...corporations will always be more powerful than government.
  • Obama owes NOTHING to major corporations or lobbyists. That is a cornerstone of his campaign. Regarding him being unable to make a change, let me ask you this: Was Bush able to make a change?
    • Bush made change. And by made change i mean made change go in his pocket. The issue of lobbying is number one on my list of reasons i support Barack Obama. The only way that i believe we can change the government is to remove the influence of lobbyists and their stranglehold on Washington. Obama has worked on many different pieces of legislation to reduce lobbyists power, create transparency and oversight. It is an exciting time in America when you feel like the next President is going to work for you.

      Obama won't make a difference? Bush able to make change?

      George Bush did create change. Not in a good way. But look at what a President can do? Barack can make positive change if thats what he works on just like anyone else could. He is a once in a lifetime candidate. Maybe someday their will actually be a Obama political generation?
      • I hope that will work. I hope you are right. Anybody is better than Bush..even a cat or a dog. I certainly think Obama is the closest to what this country needs given the two choices that corporate America provided us. McCaine would be the nail in the coffin. But I think it's really important to take notice of who advises Obama. This is what ruined Obama for me. Read The Grand Chessboard.
        Notice the other NO NAME candidates during the debates didn't get nearly as much air time as the top 3 candidates recieved...??
        Obama, Hilary and McCaine were backed by major corporate heads giving them more time to speak. The others really had no voice and no chance. This is how this country works from the top to the bottom. The elected basically represents corporate America.
      • YES! ALL about the +!!!!!!!!

        OKAY, I DO realize I sound like I am "pushing?" about the HOPE thing!
        BUT, our thoughts make a huge difference!

        dr's said U wouldn't be the same~after my TBI!
        I thought & worked myself to LIFE!!!!!!!! ;)*

        I like Obamma's "newness"! FRESH! we need NEW & FRESH!
    • Yes! Bush made the most change in history. He ruined the country and left the next president with problems that are probably beyond fixing. We should also blame ourselves for not starting an uprise.
      • Bush hardly made the most change in history (read up on FDR, Hoover, Lincoln, etc.). But he certainly made the most change thus far in our lifetimes. But you seem to understand my point: A president, along with a sympathetic administration and cabinet, is able to affect massive amounts of change. Bush was hobbled by a seriously divided house and senate. I don't beleive the whole "He orchestrated 9-11" stuff for a second and personally think the movie Zeitgeist is full of more holes and tricky editing than most other End of the World-blockbusters. However I do believe that the scenarios and contingencies they have had mapped out for sheep control long before Li'l Bush was in office worked swimmingly in the wake of 9-11. Congress went along with it. The Senate went along with it. It opened the Pandora's Box of war, domestic spy...er The Patriot Act, etc.

        Don't kid yourself for a second about an uprising. What is it about people that think this is 1775 and we can survive an uprising? That would just give more fuel to restrictive legislation that would be passed. Obama is the closest thing we can have to a civilized, organized, uprising. And it is the one that scares the hell out of Washington DC because it can't be contained with laws or rubber bullets; it is the uprising from within and it is the uprising every person who wants true change should be throwing their energy behind.

        Obama in 08.
        • I hope you're right. What spooks me is that every president who was brave enough to stand up to the elite "Bankers" was basically shot or crashed in an airplane. I believe people must boycott all corporate oil and banking interests as much as possible to make a difference. As a reward..the Feds put your face on a coin or dollar after you are eliminated.
          • Huh? Reagan stood up to Bankers? Ford did? Because Kennedy sure as hell didn't, Lincoln had other matters on his mind, and Garfield and McKinley never made it to mint. Roosevelt, Jackson and Truman don't count because they lived. Dude, c'mon, check your facts. The only presidents I'm aware were in a plane crash were former Rwandan President Habyarimana and President Cyprien Ntaryamira of Burundi back in 1994(ish)
            • Sorry my statements above are vague, but Kennedy did stand up to the Federal Reserve. What do mean he sure as hell didn't? Read about executive order 11110. They gunned Kennedy down before he could sign it. Roosevelt in the 1930's closed banks and made it illegal to own gold. This means he's acting with interest for the Feds. I think Reagan questioned the Federal Reserve and demanded an investigation but never truly attempted to end the production of fiat currency.
              Lincoln I believe...was killed because he threatened the Rothschilds' commodity speculations. He also refused to accept high interest loans from the Rothschilds' to finance the war and found other honest means to finance the war. This pissed off the Rothschilds' who are basically the FEDS..and so they hired a gunman to kill him. That's what I believe happened to Lincoln besides..he had other things on his mind. Who knows what really happened? You believe what you believe. Check your facts.
              • You aren't seriously talking about Executive Order 11110 and the whole Jim Marrs stuff are you? Crossfire is just one of his fine conspiracy theory books. Let's look at some of the other titles this guy has managed to get printed:

                The Terror Conspiracy: Deception, 9/11 (fair enough, but read below. zeitgeist much?)

                PSI Spies: The True Story of America's Psychic Warfare Program

                Rule by Secrecy : The Hidden History That Connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramid

                Look, maybe we should take this conversation private because it really has nothing to do with this tribe. But I gotta be honest in that I'm not much on Conspiracy Theorists. My girlfriend had me sit down and watch Zeitgeist, and I'll be honest I wanted to believe that it was at least somewhat of a theory. However Michael Moore's disservice to that possibility has been so completely discredited as to have compelled me to take a hard look at Zeitgeist. That movie is so full of misleading fabrications that I am convinced the 9/11 theorists are grasping at straws under the best possible conditions and lying through their teeth at the worst.

                With respect to Executive Order 11110, Marrs' understanding of the federal reserve system and the implications of that order are pedestrian to the point of non-existent. The fact is that the Federal Reserve never was involved in underwriting bonds. Additionally, the contention that removing the metallic securities backing up Silver Certificates in favor of the gold standard is completely erronious. We haven't been on the gold standard since the mid-1930s. Plus the dollar wasn't all that weak during the Kennedy administration.

                Regarding Lincoln, the whole International Bankers Upset because he found other ways to finance the civil war is one of a half dozen theories (including the one that he was killed by the Roman Catholic Church). He was killed by a racist confederate, plain and simple.

                We can take this private, but to tell the truth I'm really not in to debating a conspiracy buff. There is a difference between a fact and a conspiracy theory and the stuff you are citing is so far out of left field to suggest to me that it won't be a productive conversation.
  • BUT have seen the choices? HE IS THE BEST!
    I am 38 & I am shocked at what this country has become!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ~PITIFUL!
    have HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    we need to be + for our future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • Barrack publicly stated that he would not hesitate to defend America from TERRORISTS. This is not a war on Terrorism. Terrorism is a tactic. This is a war for global domination and oil. His stance on the war seems vague. I'm not convinced with his stance on the war until he says this war was completely illegal and should be stopped completely. ALL TROOPS, every single one of them including the bases and oil contractors should be removed from the region. Complete control should be given back to the Iraqi people regardless of what happens. Barrack will not end this war. He will pull most of the troops out in waves leaving the bases and thousands of troops in the region to maintain "security." The U.S. military has the capacity to destroy most of the world with one nuclear submarine. This is not an issue of defending America against terrorists. This is global domination and control of natural resources. The U.S. is fully capable of defending the homeland. We don't need to be there. Obama can't stop the oil corporations. Just watch and see. Our choices are limited to 3 corporate puppets who might mean well but won't make a real difference. Explain why all the other candidates never received the same amount of air time to speak during the debates. They were eliminated quickly without having equal time to speak. The election process is rigged. Prove to me that it's not. Obama seems to be the best choice among corporate puppets. I agree.