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Re: Why should a person with hypertension not eat black licorice?
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This is a fascinating question, and one that I was introduced to in my medical school courses. We had, as a case study, a hypertensive individual that was also a habitual licorice consumer. That is the key: habitual. Having licorice once in a while is not damaging, but over time, licorice ingestion can induce pseudoaldosteronism. Aldosterone is the adrenal hormone that acts on the kidney, telling it to retain water and sodium. This hormone also induces the loss of potassium, which is exchanged for sodium in the kidney. Licorice contains glycyrrhizin, which is absorbed as glycyrrhetinic acid. Glycyrrhizin, inhibits an enzyme called 11-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, which converts cortisol to cortisone. Cortisol, but not cortisone, binds to the aldosterone receptor in the kidney and mimicks the effects of aldosterone, which could explain the effects of licorice - a buildup of cortisol, which is recognized by the body as aldosterone. In fact, in a study by Bernardi et al (ref 3), healthy volunteers given 814mg of glycyrrhizin/day experienced hypokalemia and increased body weight (apparently due to water retention) after 1-2 weeks.
OK, so licorice causes pseudoaldosteronism. What does pseudoaldosteronism do? Kidney retention of water and sodium lead to increased blood volume. Increased blood volume leads to increased blood pressure (think of it as turning up the tap on a water hose - the more water, the more pressure on the hose). Abnormally increased blood pressure over time is called hypertension.
As a sidelight, the hypokalemia (reduced potassium) induced by licorice due to the retention of sodium over potassium, can also be dangerous. Hypokalemia is usually tolerated well by most people and is often discovered incidentially with a blood test. If serum potassium drops too low, however, people can experience muscle weakness (due to altered resting potential of the muscle cells), polyuria (lots of urine), polydipsia (lots of thirst) and in some cases can cause cardiac arrhytmias and other EKG changes, due to altered repolarization and increased automaticity.
I hope this helps!
Have a good day-
Ingrid
MadScientist
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Date: Mon Feb 18 11:13:37 2002
Posted By: Ingrid Dodge, Grad student, Immunology
Area of science: Medicine
ID: 1013803357.Me
Message:
Dear J:
www.madsci.org/posts/arch...1.Me.r.html
This is a fascinating question, and one that I was introduced to in my medical school courses. We had, as a case study, a hypertensive individual that was also a habitual licorice consumer. That is the key: habitual. Having licorice once in a while is not damaging, but over time, licorice ingestion can induce pseudoaldosteronism. Aldosterone is the adrenal hormone that acts on the kidney, telling it to retain water and sodium. This hormone also induces the loss of potassium, which is exchanged for sodium in the kidney. Licorice contains glycyrrhizin, which is absorbed as glycyrrhetinic acid. Glycyrrhizin, inhibits an enzyme called 11-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase, which converts cortisol to cortisone. Cortisol, but not cortisone, binds to the aldosterone receptor in the kidney and mimicks the effects of aldosterone, which could explain the effects of licorice - a buildup of cortisol, which is recognized by the body as aldosterone. In fact, in a study by Bernardi et al (ref 3), healthy volunteers given 814mg of glycyrrhizin/day experienced hypokalemia and increased body weight (apparently due to water retention) after 1-2 weeks.
OK, so licorice causes pseudoaldosteronism. What does pseudoaldosteronism do? Kidney retention of water and sodium lead to increased blood volume. Increased blood volume leads to increased blood pressure (think of it as turning up the tap on a water hose - the more water, the more pressure on the hose). Abnormally increased blood pressure over time is called hypertension.
As a sidelight, the hypokalemia (reduced potassium) induced by licorice due to the retention of sodium over potassium, can also be dangerous. Hypokalemia is usually tolerated well by most people and is often discovered incidentially with a blood test. If serum potassium drops too low, however, people can experience muscle weakness (due to altered resting potential of the muscle cells), polyuria (lots of urine), polydipsia (lots of thirst) and in some cases can cause cardiac arrhytmias and other EKG changes, due to altered repolarization and increased automaticity.
I hope this helps!
Have a good day-
Ingrid
MadScientist
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Date: Mon Feb 18 11:13:37 2002
Posted By: Ingrid Dodge, Grad student, Immunology
Area of science: Medicine
ID: 1013803357.Me
Message:
Dear J:
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Re: why hypertensive patients shouldn't take gan cao habitually
Tue, March 13, 2007 - 11:28 PMCan you explain why calcium channel blockers cause edema in the ankles? I don't buy this explaination, case study notwithstanding...One compound in licorice, glycyrrhizin, has been shown in experiments to lower bp in human volunteers(Benesky)...There are so many other factors at play than mentioned above... -
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Re: why hypertensive patients shouldn't take gan cao habitually
Tue, March 20, 2007 - 8:50 AMOMG! One of my best friends is HIV pos and addicted to licorice. He was having major edema issues lately and they were blaming his HIV drug regime. I have to tell him...oh boy, he's not gonna like hearing this one! -
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Re: why hypertensive patients shouldn't take gan cao habitually
Sat, March 24, 2007 - 10:39 PMFrom what I know it's when people use more than about 5 qin (15 gm. ) of licorice per day or the extract thereof. That's more than in most TCM formulas. DGL licorice doesn't count.
Some pharma drugs could probably change how much it takes to make a diff too ...
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Re: why hypertensive patients shouldn't take gan cao habitually
Sun, March 25, 2007 - 7:55 PMJason,
I can't explain why "calcium channel blockers cause edema in the ankles" - I merely cut and pasted an article here that was on my school's yahoo group because I found it relevant. Sorry, but I personally don't have any more information. -
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Re: why hypertensive patients shouldn't take gan cao habitually
Mon, March 26, 2007 - 11:52 PMOh, I didn't mean you, sorry, I was sort of addressing the author, - calcium channel blockers are drugs that LOWER bp and CAUSE edema in the ankles, so the author's science is off somewhat I think. I read an article online that said low doses of gan cao lower bp in hypertensives and high doses can raise it. Gancao is contraindicated in cases of extreme dampness most tcm books say, so probably that's what's up with the patient's condition in the case study. -
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Re: why hypertensive patients shouldn't take gan cao habitually
Fri, April 13, 2007 - 7:00 PMahhh yes understood! don't know how to reach the author though :)
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