Networking while in school

topic posted Fri, June 1, 2007 - 8:40 AM by  offlineSiobhan
My mentor has been drilling into my head that it's really important to get out and socialize and network with professionals in my new career. Especially since I'm moving to a whole new place, where my current contacts dont really reach. I haven't moved yet, but I have sent out a dozen or so letters to acupuncturists that practice around my new home and plan to call all of them right after I've gotten settled in. I've been pleasantly surprised that two practictioners have actually taken the time to call me and wish me well. They both encouraged me to call them after I've moved and we've discussed my shadowing them in their practice.

I'm just tickled pink that this effort has produced any results this early. But I know that once my classes start, I'm going to be absolutely loaded with work. Does anybody here actively work at networking? How can you do that and still have time for work and study? Is there anyone here that finds this aspect easy?
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Siobhan
Philadelphia
  • Re: Networking while in school

    Sun, June 3, 2007 - 12:20 PM
    i have not had time to do this at all. i am almost finished with my second year - although i was going part time/ish and so it's my official first year and i have barely had time to step outside and see the sun but that's me. it takes me much longer to learn things than most people so i have to spend 3 or 4x the amount of time studying than my fellow students do. my closest friend in the program is going to school full time, has a part time job, goes out every night and goes to buddhist retreats several times a month, plus she takes extra classes outside of school on a regular basis. personally, that would kill me.

    as for networking while in school. i don't know. since it's a 4 year program there is plenty of time for that and plenty of time to meet acupuncturists along the way. i recently found someone whose style i respect and am going to try to intern with him, but not until my last year - he doesn't even take interns that aren't in their last year. the problem with just finding someone before you know what you're looking for is that every single practitioner practices the medicine completely differently. this was what shocked me the most. i haven't found 2 people who do the same things yet. after a couple of years however i did realize that i like the more traditional (pre mao) approach and am leaning towards that.

    i love some of my teacher's techniques, yet others i do not like at all and this came, for me, with knowledge, time and a basic understanding of the medicine.

    i think, though, if you have the time, then finding ppl to network with is a great idea. my school has quite a few part time jobs in acupuncture clinics and many students have taken these routes while still in school.

    what i have found the most helpful for me is going to a variety of acupuncturists for treatments. this gives me hands on experience as to what i like and don't like and what i want to learn more about. i have seen almost all of my teachers for at least 6 treatments, or more. i switch off and go to one for a month or two, then another, then another, etc. they explain what they are doing and why and i feel their energy and see if their approach physically works for me or not. they all offer student discounts. this is what has benefited me the most.

    on the other hand, going to our own clinic has been a disaster for me. although i learned a lot i got sicker than i've ever been and remained ill for 4 months straight. now i rarely go to our clinic.







    • Re: Networking while in school

      Sun, June 3, 2007 - 3:55 PM
      I can certainly see the benefit of being treated by many different acupuncturists multiple times. I'm sorry to hear that it had a detrimental effect on you. Have others had this experience? I've only been treated by two practictioners. I liked them both, but ended up being in an apprenticeship with one of them so now I'm really kinda biased. I'd really like to get a part time position at an acupunture clinic while I'm in school. I think it would help me to shift my paradigm.

      I think I should start looking at classes to see what's out there that I might be interested in. But maybe wait until after my first year to actually take outside classes.

      I really admire how hard you work on your education. Anybody who puts that much effort into something deserves all of the accolades they can get.
      • Re: Networking while in school

        Sat, June 9, 2007 - 10:47 PM
        Siobhan - I wanted to clear up that getting treated by many different acupuncturists was not detrimental - I have been that for about a year. What was detrimental was getting treated by many different students!!! That's how I got sick!!!! I have not have any negative experiences being treated from licensed acupuncturists and in the past year I have seen 5 different acupuncturists for a few months each. I find it's best to stick with one person for awhile, especially if herbs are involved!

        So you've already apprenticed!?! You are already way ahead of many!!!

        RE: classes - I can't help you there. Going to school pretty much full time, I am not able to take any more classes than I already have, learning all this new information is about all I can handle, but many people at my school do take outside classes!! Let me know what you find!! :) I personally am going to wait until my third year, after 2nd year comps and focus solely on acupuncture until then. After 2nd year I plan on taking some outside pulse diagnoses classes and some other stuff too.




        • Re: Networking while in school

          Mon, June 11, 2007 - 5:42 PM
          I've been apprenticing under an acupuncturist for about three years now, but up until about six months ago he was teaching me movement therapy, not acupuncture. He has already trained me in doing ryodoraku for a study that I have been working on, but golly, there is just something about the needles that I really dig.
          I finally talked him into letting me stick a needle into one of my own massage students who had come into my mentor's office for a treatment. After that, I was totally hooked.
          On one hand, I feel like I may be more prepared then the typical entering student. I have been listening to my mentor go on and on about stagnant qi, the five elements, ashi points and goodness knows what else. But right now I feel like I know just enough to be confused as hell. Probably a good place to start off a formal education, right?

          And I can understand how being treated by many different students could cause you to get totally out of wack. I dont like it when my own massage students work on me, I can only imagine how screwed up a person could get by multiple student acupuncturists. I hope that I dont wack too many people out while I'm learning.
  • Re: Networking while in school

    Tue, August 7, 2007 - 1:18 AM
    Siobhan,

    I work at the Acupuncture & Integrative Medicine College, Berkeley (aimc.edu) doing the marketing. I used to hear from a lot of students that they were worried about getting patients as interns, or knowing what to do when they graduated. At the same time, the thing we lacked in terms of marketing was word-of-mouth "buzz". We realized that we essentially had the same problem and the same solution: networking. Our big answer was to create classes in Practice Building for Acupuncturists.
    (aimc.edu/acupuncture-s...al.html#pe319)

    But one of the small answers is much simpler: carry business cards with you. I know, I know ... a lot of you are probably cringing. And some of you are saying, "well, duh!" It is really that simple. Get yourself some business cards and a carrying case to keep them crisp. Cards don't do well in a wallet after a month, so you have keep them flowing if you use a wallet.

    Make excuses to give them out. At the very moment you mention you are an acupuncture student, start reaching for your cards and interrupt yourself, "here, let me just give you my card." Even if people don't hang on to it, they are 1) impressed you are prepared, and 2) more likely to remember your name having seen it in print. And if they're anything like me, they'll write on the back of it where they met you (so be sure to leave space on the back for notes).

    We require our interns at AIMC Berkeley to purchase cards from us so that they represent us in a unified way. But we also subsidize the cost over the span of their internship if they are assiduous in passing them out. It's a win-win when interns recruit their own patients for our clinic, get practice for when they go out into the real world, feel successful one day, and are glad we helped them get there. I hope this little tidbit helps you get there too.
    • Re: Networking while in school

      Tue, August 7, 2007 - 1:26 AM
      Here's another tidbit I forgot about: pay attention to the audience, not just the speaker.

      If and when you find the time to go listen to a speaker talk on some subject of interest, be mindful of the audience. Often these are people that are like-minded folks that you may want to meet. That makes the networking much easier; you have something to talk about, and probably some things in common.

      Here's a trick for getting people to come to you: make the last question/comment before the break or end of the talk. Often there is time for audience questions, sometimes throughout the session. I find it is beneficial to form a thought-provoking question that gets both the audience and the speaker thinking (if possible), and when I ask it, I make sure to say something quick about myself to give people some context and a mnemonic to remember me by. If you've caught someone's attention with what you have to say, they may well approach you during the break or after the talk.

      AND, if you spend time at the end of the talk meeting people from the audience (giving out your business card and collecting theirs), the line to meet the speaker will die down, giving you more face-to-face time with him/her (if you want it).
      • Re: Networking while in school

        Wed, August 8, 2007 - 7:53 PM
        Ohhhhhh, great advice!!!! People have actually been asking me for my business card for the past 2 years but I don't have one yet as I'm not an intern yet. My school provides them for a discount too.

        Love the speaker advice as well !!!

        Thanks Taj!
      • Re: Networking while in school

        Thu, August 16, 2007 - 6:42 AM
        Thanks, Taj, for your suggestions. I used to harp on my massage students to always carry their business cards with them and would take them to festivals and faires so they could practice passing their cards out during conversation. It's amazing how ackward people feel when doing that until they're really used to it. Thanks for the reminder, I haven't made any new cards since I've moved to this area. I've been here long enough now that I'm just being bad.

        I love your suggestion about being the last one to make a question. I've never been one to ask questions at a seminar, but I have gone up to people afterwards who asked questions that I thought were interesting. Getting people to come to me is a great idea.

        I appreciate that you took the time to respond to my question. Thank you.

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