Mercury is very dangerous

topic posted Fri, February 9, 2007 - 8:37 AM by  offlineLars
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Use of mercury is mentioned in One of the Aghora books.I think its the first one.Its very dangerous so i wanted to make sure everyone knows this.Some of the stories in the book are folklore and not meant to be taken literally
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Mercury is highly toxic. Mercury accumulates in body tissues and organs and causes adverse health problems. It enters the body through inhalation of mercury vapors or by skin absorption when handling the substance. Depending on the level and frequency of exposure to elemental mercury, it may take long periods of time ranging from months to years to rid the body of it. This is an ever-evolving threat given the ways that magico-religious mercury is used. No correlation has been made yet between mercury poisoning and religious practices, and once individuals experience mercury exposure, their symptoms, upon fist examination, are most often attributed to other maladies.



Mercury poses extreme health hazards to young children who spend a considerable amount of time crawling on the floor. Sprinkling mercury on the floor and mixing it with soapy solutions to wash the floor liberate mercury vapor into the room air. This exposes the inhabitants to elevated levels of mercury vapor. This affects not only the current inhabitants, but any future inhabitants who will live in that particular dwelling because mercury is highly absorptive and remains in the cracks of High level mercury exposure can result in severe neurological damage and alter the functions of the nervous system. Human lungs readily absorb 75-85% of inhaled elemental mercury vapor, allowing it to diffuse across the alveolar membranes and attack red blood cells and the central nervous system. High temperatures play a crucial role in mercury vaporization. The boiling point of liquid mercury is 356.9*C, so when mercury is burned in a candle, whose flame is hotter than 500*C, harmful mercury vapors fill the room and seep into peoples' lungs.



Fetuses, infants, and small children appear to be particularly at risk. A fetus's exposure to mercury may not be apparent at birth but may reveal themselves in later childhood as learning diabilities, deficits in language, cognitive, and motor skill development. Since mercury poisoning can also be spread through breast milk, breast-fed infants may be at a higher risk.

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  • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

    Fri, February 9, 2007 - 10:00 AM
    Mercury is used in Ayurveda but it has to be changed - I forget the terminology.

    I don't think that the people on this tribe are breaking open their thermometers and doing mercury experiments.
    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

      Fri, February 9, 2007 - 10:27 AM
      Mercury undergoes shodhana (purification) before it is used medicinally (in Ayurveda and Siddha). There are a series of steps known as samskaras which "humanize" the mercury and potentiate it before it becomes fit to be ingested.
      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

        Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:00 AM
        > There are a series of steps known as samskaras which "humanize" the mercury and potentiate it before it becomes fit to be ingested.
        *****
        Then either the mercury is bound into a compound which renders it non- or less toxic, or it's your standard ayurvedic mumbo jumbo and not any different than eating animal testicles to increase male potency.
        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

          Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:09 AM
          >>Then either the mercury is bound into a compound which renders it non- or less toxic,

          well yeah.

          anyone else see that Ayurveda movie? it cracked me up - "now m,y wife will eat the mercury!" "now I will swallow poison! see, I know how to mix things so they aren't dangerous!"
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            Re: Mercury is amrita!

            Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:54 AM
            if you know how to,
            if your bodily processes have become
            highly evolved,
            then you don't need to transform the mercury
            prior to consuming it;
            your body will do that automatically
            I certainly can't transmute it,
            but knew a few people that could
            alchemical masters from India
            there was this one technique where mercury
            is placed in a glass bowl
            and heated from underneath with blue-flamed torch-lighters
            and after the necessary chemical changes occured
            the mercury is scooped up with three fingers
            and spread horizontally over the forhead
            for rapid absorption through the bloodstream
            similar to how Shaivites put three horizontal lines
            of sandalwood paste or ash on their forheads.
            I accidently took mercury once,
            it was laced on some seeds I ate six years ago,
            but was just trace amounts so I didn't die
            but had intense vomitting
            and felt altered consciousness from it,
            in a good way, like temporarily suspending
            the ego mechanism, lots of energy in my forhead.
            I agree with Saul, noone here is dumb enough
            to break open thermometers and eat the mercury lol
            plus its in the swordfish, and other seafood,
            so good time to cut down on consumption of ocean life!
            Om
            • Re: Mercury is amrita!

              Fri, February 9, 2007 - 12:05 PM
              or switch to short-lived animals that don't accumulate much of it - actually the most eco- and human-friendly food you could be eating if you're on the west coast of california is squid, because they have a very short lifespan and they spawn in the MILLIONS so they are renewable.

              I don't eat 'em tho because I have a soft spot for cephalopods.
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                Re: Mercury is amrita!

                Fri, February 9, 2007 - 1:12 PM
                what do you mean
                I have been eating mercury after I read the Aghora book


                and i am fine

                just kidding
                • Re: Mercury is amrita!

                  Mon, June 4, 2007 - 8:26 PM
                  I have been wearing and eating purified mercury after reading the aghora books for about seven years now and I am fine.

                  Not kidding.

                  I have a mercury shiva ling, mercury mala, cinabar powder, and my friend has brought back some bhamsa from India with gold and emrcury and we are doing just fine. Low quality mercury causes all kinds of diseases, high quality mercury cures all kinds of diseases.
        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

          Fri, February 9, 2007 - 5:29 PM
          >>Then either the mercury is bound into a compound which renders it non- or less toxic, or it's your standard ayurvedic mumbo jumbo and not any different than eating animal testicles to increase male potency.


          Dude, I was only explaining the methodology and terminology used in the system. It's not mumbo jumbo. There's no reason to be so cynical about so many concepts in Vedic vidya (which are obviously beyond your grasp). Obviously it is rendered non-toxic. Mercury is usually heated with sulfur to a certain temperature, if you're only interested in the "scientific" angle. But they developed the means to perfect it into a medicinal substance. It has to be heated just so, otherwise the mere formation of the chemical compound does not rid mercury of its toxic qualities. Bottom line: mercury compounds are exceptionally potent in serious disease, akin to modern-day steroids, yet without the serious adverse effects steroids produce.

          If you're serious about experiencing firsthand the incredible wealth of wisdom in Ayurveda (and I have a hard time believing you are, because of your constant "neti neti" attitude about Ayurveda, Yoga and Siddha), go see Dr. Lad in Albuquerque like I once said, and he will blow you away with his spot-on diagnosis, based only on feeling your pulse. Otherwise stop behaving like such a "scientific" elitist. Have the humility to acknowledge that there are some Vedic traditions that you just don't understand, instead of interpreting them with your myopic Western perspective.
          • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

            Fri, February 9, 2007 - 8:08 PM
            > There's no reason to be so cynical about so many concepts in Vedic vidya (which are obviously beyond your grasp).
            *****
            Ouch!

            > Bottom line: mercury compounds are exceptionally potent in serious disease, akin to modern-day steroids, yet without the serious adverse effects steroids produce.
            *****
            And this is confirmed by medical research, or is it your observation?

            > go see Dr. Lad in Albuquerque like I once said, and he will blow you away with his spot-on diagnosis, based only on feeling your pulse.
            *****
            If he'd agree to do it for free, I'd go.

            > Have the humility to acknowledge that there are some Vedic traditions that you just don't understand
            *****
            There are many, many Vedic traditions I don't understand. But I do understand the placebo effect, and I believe it operates in many more cases of alternative healing modalities than the practitioners of such are willing to admit.

            > instead of interpreting them with your myopic Western perspective.
            *****
            It's worked pretty well for me so far. ;)
            • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

              Fri, February 9, 2007 - 9:33 PM
              I'm happy you took my comments in the right spirit.


              >>And this is confirmed by medical research, or is it your observation?

              Many traditional Ayurvedic preparations have been subjected to modern research studies (Scott Gerson, M.D, PhD, is doing great work in the field. He is both a Western MD as well as a PhD in Ayurveda - niam.com/corp-web/current.htm). Here are studies done on Abana, on a polyherbal formulation manufactured by Himalaya which contains Makardhwaja (a mercury compound) - www.himalayahealthcare.com/rese...x.htm

              I also know personally of patients who have been treated by Ayurvedic physicians with such compounds, and their recovery has been dramatic. Several thousand years of empirical findings are good enough for me to have faith that when the compounds are prepared correctly, and the correct diagnosis has been made, they work more efficaciously than placebos and are a useful complement to allopathic drugs.



              > go see Dr. Lad in Albuquerque like I once said, and he will blow you away with his spot-on diagnosis, based only on feeling your pulse.
              *****
              >>If he'd agree to do it for free, I'd go.


              He didn't charge me a penny when I went to see him recently - and it was the first time I've ever met him. But then he has to make a living, you know, and is not running a charity service. =)


              >>There are many, many Vedic traditions I don't understand. But I do understand the placebo effect, and I believe it operates in many more cases of alternative healing modalities than the practitioners of such are willing to admit.


              Jody, I know of at least a few cases that vaidyas have been able to treat and *cure*, conditions allopathic medicine calls idiopathic ( the doctor has zero clue what is wrong). In such cases, patients have resorted to Ayurveda literally as a last resort, and the dramatic cures elicited lead me to be convinced that it's not a mere placebo effect happening. Heck, if placebo effect is all there is to the practice of medicine, why not just shut down the entire pharmaceutical industry? Why do we even prescribe drugs in the first place? Ayurvedic formulations are also medicinal, and have a precise pharmacological action as detailed in the texts. Just because they are manufactured using ancient and low-tech processes does not make them inferior or worthless or of questionable value.

              BTW, gold ash (swarna bhasma) has been used in treating arthritis, among other conditions, for several thousand years by Ayurveda. Modern medicine has verified that gold salts are useful as anti-inflammatories and even uses them as such. Co-incidence? I think not. Same with reserpine (Rauwolfia serpentina) for hypertension, etc etc.



              • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                Fri, February 9, 2007 - 9:56 PM
                > Ayurvedic formulations are also medicinal, and have a precise pharmacological action as detailed in the texts.
                *****
                I have no doubt about this for some, or perhaps most ayurvedic medicines. But powdered human skull?
                • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                  Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:14 PM
                  Well, this *is* the Aghora tribe, so who cares?! .

                  But seriously, all the brouhaha arose only because whoever manufactured Ramdev's medicines did not label them disclosing all ingredients, as all commercial formulations are required to. Many devout Hindus will even ingest a little vibhuti as prasad without batting an eyelid, knowing well it contains minute amounts of human ash from the smashan. And of course the communists in India have their own agenda.

                  Anyway, even if they use human bone, it is probably in very minute quantities as a catalyst or potentiator for the other main ingredients, unlike Chinese Medicine, which relies more on the animal parts alone as medicine even today. Traditional Ayurveda used a lot of animal meat soups, organs etc, but modern pharmacies hardly use any animal material at all. Maybe < 2% of all ingredients in the pharmacopoeia. Human bone is even rarer still. It just made good copy for your blog ;)
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                    Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                    Sat, February 10, 2007 - 2:07 PM
                    > Anyway, even if they use human bone, it is probably in very minute quantities as a catalyst or potentiator for the other main ingredients
                    *****
                    But human bone isn't any different than animal bone, save for the presence of human protein material. Ground up bone is calcium plus those proteins and cell remnants. I find it superstitious to believe that human bone is going to have an action different than animal bone or any other source of calcium. It seems to me to be more about the beliefs fostered by the fact that it IS human bone that brings about whatever action it is supposed to have.

                    My issues with any system of oriental medicine is that the models which underlie them are all over the map. For instance, the Chinese system of Chi is quite different than the Hindu's prana. Do human bodies have two separate energy circuits that each of these methodologies work on? And why hasn't medical science found concomitant pathways? Does the body contain such a multitude of configurations that all the different systems work on each of the different configurations? It seems more likely that there are allopathic elements which work to varying degrees, and more superstitious elements, which still work as well, but only in conjunction with belief.
                    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                      Sat, February 10, 2007 - 3:11 PM
                      well, they seem to work - a lot of people who are resistant to that shit mentally seem to change their mind when they get acupuncture.

                      but those are good questions. I wonder the same thing.

                      on the other hand, the placebo effect rocks. mind over fucking matter. whatever gets the job done.
                      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                        Sat, February 10, 2007 - 3:28 PM
                        > a lot of people who are resistant to that shit mentally seem to change their mind when they get acupuncture.
                        *****
                        Of all the oriental systems, acupuncture is the one I would try first.

                        > the placebo effect rocks.
                        *****
                        Definitely. But I don't mind having a proven medical alternative to back it up.
                    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                      Sat, February 10, 2007 - 3:26 PM
                      >> "It seems more likely that there are allopathic elements which work to varying degrees, and more superstitious elements, which still work as well, but only in conjunction with belief."


                      ridiculous, Jody...what superstitious elements? no, belief isn't necessary... allopathy, as far as I can tell, is good for one thing only, and that usually falls into the department of keeping someone alive when the guts are blown out, or they've been in a car crash, etc....it never considers the disposition of the person, which can and does change often due to environmental and natural tendencies that the person may be exposed to daily. Allopathy simply doesn't care about such things ... sure mind over matter works for those with a strong powerful will and balanced disposition, it works great, but the people who are compromised in mind and body don't have either of those, which is why they are not well physically or mentally in the first place, and usually that is quite evident.
                      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                        Sat, February 10, 2007 - 3:46 PM
                        did you watch that Ayurveda video, Adya? I can't remember...

                        when I was in Varanasi there was this GREAT cook and restaurant owner who gave us a couple recipes and his food was so damn good...

                        he explained why: he took the same approach to food that Sadhakas take to the Gunas... balance and a holistic approach - to fuckin' food! and you know what? it was some of the best food I've ever had in my life. I think balance is SO key to just everything across the board.
                        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                          Sat, February 10, 2007 - 3:58 PM
                          I saw it....I liked the main Dr. they interviewed in the movie Brahmanand Swamigal - he seemed to know what he was doing.
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                            Sat, February 10, 2007 - 4:06 PM
                            yeah that guy I really liked. I would totally get treatment from him.

                            plus he cracked me up.

                            it was interesting as well because I've read a bit about the Cittars (Siddhas) and the poetry they wrote to communicate Ayurvedic medical procedures and they touched on that - I was surprised, I thought it was gonna be more new agey but it was pretty OG.
                    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                      Mon, April 14, 2008 - 7:53 AM
                      I see your point in this but I wouldn't always trust modern medical science. Thousands of years from now, the stuff we are giving in America will be just the same kind of mumbo jumbo you feel about human bone. As far as different systems for chi, and prana... There's no way to really pin down something that subtle and make an exact diagram. Why hasn't medical science found anything like that? Well they don't know everything do they. Medical science pushes poison into people's body every day through the pharm industry. I mean some of that stuff mind as well be mercury and human bone, seeing what is has done to people. No system is perfect, including and not limited to modern medical science. They think they know so much about the earth, humans, and space, they have all their fancy equipment and such... They have contributed a lot to humans but they also have taken a lot away. You pay for everything, nothing is free. Whenever the cure something un-naturally with their chemicals, another problem arises, and that's how the pharm companies make money. Look at all the people who are elderly on 8 different medications to live, paying all of their retirement to corporations because they think that these doctors and pharmaceutical companies actually know what they are talking about because they have labs and degrees. Humans will always never grap the whole picture whether it's a witch doctor, or Ayurveda doctor, or an American MD. They are only grasping part of the truth. If science knew everything about the universe, and they were allowed to know everything, there would be no more human condition because it could cure everything, and relieve all suffering. But you can never eliminate human suffering or suffering in general. Like I said when you eliminate one form of suffering, another will arise. If you are embodied than you will experience suffering period. When you are liberated from suffering, then you aren't going to have a body anymore. As long as you are here you will get sick, and be prone to ignorance, and self-delusion and all that.

                      Even things with healing properties, whether chemical or natural is still a placebo to a good degree. In fact without the placebo effect I don't think any medicine would work to any degree, you have to believe it's working. A good medicine is something you firmly believe will cure you, and if you firmly believe it, I can be sure that whether it's human ash or asprin it's going to work. I realize that there are properties of so many different things, but a good deal of it's "properties" are human belief in it. Even the best medicine wont work on anyone if they don't think they are going to get better. I have given friend of mine all kinds of herbal concoctions that have worked but I also make a big deal about HOW they are going to work and WHY it's going to work. They could be drinking rose water and get better with the kind of emphasis I put on it.

                      I don't believe everything that any one science or another says just because they say it. It has to apply to me, and work in my own universe of experience.

                      And this is just my thoughts by the way, I am not presenting this really as any kind of argument or solid truth. But it's an observation of mine.
  • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

    Fri, February 9, 2007 - 5:04 PM
    >>>"Fetuses, infants, and small children appear to be particularly at risk. A fetus's exposure to mercury may not be apparent at birth but may reveal themselves in later childhood as learning diabilities, deficits in language, cognitive, and motor skill development..."

    we all have been exposed to mercury whether we know or not, as it has been consistently added as a preservative beyond safe measures in most of the major vaccines in the west since the 1960's, and has caused the neurological disorder commonly known as Austism - now an epidemic, with the latest news that one in every 150 babies are now infected with the disorder, and it has no cure...
    In fact, China had no known cases of Autism until they started to administer western vaccines to their population...it gets worse than this, since most of the vaccines are tested on third world countries first...

    Yes, mercury is very dangerous! not a joke, and unfortunately, though I did not set out to make this my life work, I know far more on the subject than you could ever imagine....if you think you have ingested it, it must come out immediately before it binds to the brain or other organs and causes irreversible damage...
    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

      Fri, February 9, 2007 - 5:10 PM
      hey, ask any doctor - mercury in vaccines doesn't cause autism! it's all a myth!

      sigh.
      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

        Fri, February 9, 2007 - 5:19 PM
        yeah... I have a message from Ma for those Dr.'s....

        Ayurveda has treatments for mercury poisoning, certainly better than any western modality, but they must be administered either with the mercury or soon after it has been ingested or inhaled ...shooting it *directly*into the body ( as with vaccines) is far more toxic, and requires more intense and immediate methods of treatment...
        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

          Fri, February 9, 2007 - 5:23 PM
          yeah my ex has an autistic child and even the doctors were like, "oh, it's probably from the tainted MMR batches because of when he was vaccinated"... then they changed their tune. someone is in bed with someone powerful to keep that shit in the "crazy person" section of thinking.

          well, at least he is talking in sentences now. poor little guy. only took him what, 8 years?
          • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

            Fri, February 9, 2007 - 6:00 PM
            >>> "someone is in bed with someone powerful..."

            yeah, It's a very complicated scenario!


            Imo, allopathy doesn't seek to cure, just cover up...this is the root of the problem...they make too much $$$ keeping people sick..

            it will probably end humanity as we know it, cause no one will be able to function like they do now in the future if it keeps going on this way...it will certainly make people less competitive and end the rat race, cause these poor kids can barely take care of themselves and have very few desires....I know far too many who can't talk, feed themselves, or even meet their basic needs ...very sad : (
  • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

    Thu, March 8, 2007 - 10:02 PM
    I once read of a very pequiliar tantric (?) practice involving mercury. It was so outlandish that I wouldn't be surprised if it was in one of those Svoboda trilogy.

    The practise involves taking different fluids in through your erect penis. You start with water. Suck it up sufficiently, and you can move on to milk. Once you have mastered milk, move on to oil. The next step is mercury. If you can suck mercury up your tube, and properly transmute it, or whatever, then you have attained a level of mastery in which you can, during intercourse, draw the female fluids into yourself, mixing them with your own, making some form of amrit (nectar of immortality).

    Anybody experienced in this art? I'm rather curious.
    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

      Fri, March 9, 2007 - 9:10 PM
      "The practise involves taking different fluids in through your erect penis.."

      sounds like fun ;)
      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

        Fri, March 9, 2007 - 9:39 PM
        the thought of sitting over things trying to suck them into my penis sounds like a long and terribly boring process!

        I can just see my GF rolling her eyes as I sit there for hours trying to vacuum up substances when I could be worshipping Shakti in a living breathing woman!

        anyone read Kiss of The Yogini? I like that the Kaula transmission is presented kinda like an STD!
        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

          Mon, March 12, 2007 - 3:18 AM
          I once spoke to someone who knew about the process of purifying mercury....but he said it had to be done with care since even the slightest taint can lead to one's kidneys being irrepairably damaged.... :O
          • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

            Sun, March 18, 2007 - 6:21 AM
            Good morning dear ones!

            Mercury is Lord Shiva's sperm! And yes, it is "dangerous." Look at David Crow's "In Search of the Medicine Buddha" for lots of first hand work with great ayurvedins and alchenists in India and Nepal. It does a great job in setting the context and clarifying confusion on this challenging subject...

            What we take in needs to be purified and blessed - and so does what we imagine to be the "taker in," the self. May your healing and transformational practice bring you and your world that blessing and purification!

            Love and blessings and gratitude,

            Cliff
    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

      Mon, June 4, 2007 - 8:33 PM
      You skipped some steps there. after ghee comes honey. the mercury is also purified and this last step is done under the protection of either a Guru or a Bairavi.
      I am up to being able to urinate and than suck my urine back in but I need to have a totally empty intestines to do so.

      This is not so bizare. IT is something called "Yoga"
      It is in the first book of hatha yoga ever "Hatha Yoga Pradipka"
      Some people think that yoga is something that was invested by a guy from Los Angeles and is "Stretching weightloss"
      Yoga is not just stretching.
      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

        Mon, June 4, 2007 - 9:05 PM
        ha!

        I doubt anyone savvy enough to know what Aghoris are thinks that Yoga is just like Pilates or some shit like that.
        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

          Mon, June 4, 2007 - 9:17 PM
          I wasn't implying that people in this group were like that but who knows!?
          • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

            Mon, June 4, 2007 - 9:51 PM
            > I wasn't implying that people in this group were like that but who knows!?
            *****
            Believing we are as ignorant as that affords you the opportunity to feel superior here, doesn't it?
            • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

              Mon, June 4, 2007 - 11:20 PM
              I don't understand what you are saying but if you want me to explain what I meant by what I said I would be happy to.

              Did I unintentionally hurt someone's feelings?
              • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                Mon, June 4, 2007 - 11:23 PM
                If I did it was unintentional so get over it.

                This is a very knowledgeable group. I never post I mostly love to read what others post.
                • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                  Tue, June 5, 2007 - 10:08 AM
                  > If I did it was unintentional so get over it.
                  *****
                  If it was truly unintentional, maybe you need to more closely examine what you believe your intentions are.
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                    Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                    Tue, June 5, 2007 - 1:33 PM
                    I have mercury in my teeth and I am not dead!

                    :-D
                    • Unsu...
                       

                      Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                      Tue, June 5, 2007 - 1:34 PM
                      mercury won't kill you but over time it will make you go crazy...
                      • Unsu...
                         

                        Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                        Tue, June 5, 2007 - 1:36 PM
                        any powers you obtain from the use of mercuy will have some kind of karma associated with it. even if it is good karma you will still have to stay here and work it out...no going home to the devine any time soon for you! ;)
                        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                          Wed, June 6, 2007 - 12:59 AM
                          "any powers you obtain from the use of mercuy will have some kind of karma associated with it. even if it is good karma you will still have to stay here and work it out...no going home to the devine any time soon for you! ;)"

                          Do you know how right you are? This is why it is for Naths. If used right it can make it very hard for you to die. According to Svboda ONLY mercury medicines can prolong ones life past 200 years. Mercury being the only sentient element (according to some) a Nath can so identify him herself with fixed mercury that they will simply transfer their ahamkara to a different body when one gets tiresome. Ever since i was seven I used to say that Mercury is the real god (no offense to Shani!) In "The Ocean of Mercury," a beautiful rasavidya text, it says "There are two kinds, those who believe and those who do not believe."
                          I will start a tribe for those who do believe. -Amritan Hiranyam Ayim
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                            Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                            Wed, June 6, 2007 - 8:53 AM
                            so...
                            start the tribe already!

                            I am waiting for my invitation!!!!
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                              Wed, June 6, 2007 - 10:17 AM
                              if you accept the idea that one can become an Avadhuta or Jivanmukta, one's actions will not necessarily generate karma if performed without attachment.
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                                Re: Mercury is very dangerous

                                Wed, June 6, 2007 - 1:00 PM
                                i was just talking about all the regular yogi's on the tribe!!! :)
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                                  Wed, June 6, 2007 - 9:54 PM
                                  well in that case I think most everything can generate karma, if you subscribe to that viewpoint.

                                  anyway, personally I'm aiming high (and not for the air force!) and want to get to that state in this lifetime - if I don't, well... I have to burn off all the rest of the karmas anyway so anything goes!

                                  AGHORA - MOKSHA BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

                                  hehe
                                  • Re: Mercury is very holy

                                    Thu, June 7, 2007 - 6:33 PM
                                    Dear Ones,

                                    Om Namah Shivaya! Hello! I follow this thread with interest. I am ready to learn more. Who can speak clearly and openly of their own experience rather than hearsay and book knowledge? I look forward to your kind sharing.

                                    Lots of love and blessings and gratitude,

                                    Cliff
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                                      Re: Mercury is very holy

                                      Fri, June 8, 2007 - 10:53 PM
                                      >> Who can speak clearly and openly of their own experience

                                      My Guru (who is practicing ayurveda for more than 40 year) did learned Sidha vaidya (treatment using medicines created through metallurgy) from his guru (for almost 7 years) as part of ayurveda but he never practiced and also never recommends the use of sidha vaidya. Once I asked the reason for the same, and what he told me was that it needs a brilliant mind (+ a believer) and years of practice (under the guidance of a Guru) to perfect the art of creating medicine using this method (like using purified mercury) and if there is a slightest error then all these medicines will become absolutely poisons and kill a person sometime immediately or in long-term.

                                      I have also heard from another sidha vaidya practitioner that another reason for this practice to disappear was the strict diet and lifestyle restrictions that these medications demanded when they are consumed. Demands like a person should restrain himself/herself from making sex, taking spicy food, and even very specific directions to avoid food items like curd etc.

                                      It becomes very difficult for a patient to make sure he/she is strictly under these dietary/living conditions and any change to the life style (while under medication) can probably kill a person.

                                      Amazing fact about sidha vaidya is that it not alone cure very serious diseases in less than 14 days or so but it also improves the state of health of the patient to a totally new level. It almost rejuvenates the whole body. Sidha Vidya is still practiced in India and these medicines are prepared and consumed by thousands. Sen and Co from Calcutta is a company which used to (I am not sure if they still exist or not) provide these type of medicines commercially. My father had once procured such a medicine for a family member (almost 35 years back) and has seen (me too) amazing changes in the individual who consumed the medicine.

                                      An interesting related article banglapedia.search.com.bd/HT/A_0373.htm

                                      Since this science of medicine is highly powerful and there is a huge percentage of chance (luck, blessing from Guru and God) most of the time these medicines are given free of cost even though the cost of manufacturing is very high that only an extremely rich person can afford to make these at larger quantities. Probably this is also another reason for the science to die off : )

                                      I can share more with those inquisitive minds.

                                      May Shiva’s blessing be there up on you !
                                      • Re: Mercury is very holy

                                        Tue, June 19, 2007 - 5:01 PM
                                        I'm sorry I've been away from this tribe for awhile...your post is invaluable, Raj, and I deeply appreciate what you have shared...
                                        I would love to hear more about Sidha vaidya or anything relating to this subject, especially mercury poisoning detoxification methods...
                                        My work involves those who are very much alive, though seriously compromised ...

                                        feel free to PM me..

                                        Om Namoh Sivayah!
                                        • Re: Mercury is very holy

                                          Tue, June 19, 2007 - 8:09 PM
                                          there are people making this stuff right now, I met an ayurvedic doctor at the Ayurvedic conference who makes these preparations in India, his name was Parteb, there are others doing it as well, I have a book here called"alchemy and metallic preparations in Ayurveda" but I would never do it from a book, its far too complicated.
                                          • Re: Mercury is very holy

                                            Tue, June 26, 2007 - 4:40 PM
                                            Om Namah Shivaya!

                                            Yes, it is clear that direct personal guidance and supervision is needed, at every stage of the process and at every level of our being. Thank you!

                                            Love and blessings and gratitude,

                                            Cliff
                                            • Re: Mercury is very holy

                                              Sat, November 10, 2007 - 1:35 PM
                                              Thank you all for this wonderful discussion. Raj you have been most gracious with your info, I have found it to be fascinating. I too have read in the first Aghora book of this mercury recipe. It peaked my interest as well. So I asked a dear friend and fellow medicine man about it , he's a medical qi-gung instructor , he told me that in Chinese medicine there is a form of wood mercury that is safe, as for where to get it I did not ask.
                                              At that moment in time I did not wish to be immortal nor did my fellow medicine man friend for that matter. Allthough that may change so I filed it in my brain somewhere to tell all those interested at this moment.
                                              As for a good ayurvedic pracitioner in LA- I heard of one I think may be around Fairfax in Hollywood. Since I forget and it's been years since I lived there let me refer you to my dear friend and person I consider to be a master teacher Prof. Sasi of the Vedic Healing Institute in LA. Surely he will know. BTW This man grew up with Mata Amritananda Mayi Devi- Amma and many other great satguru's for his father knew them all and introduced him to many as a child and through adulthood.
                                              310 397 2405 or www.vedichealinginstitute.com His fiance Alexandra is also a wonderful Reiki instructor. These two are such jems, lighthearted , caring and fantastic teachers that have much to knowledge to share. Having been initiated by them both in such things as the Gaia-tri mantra and the Shiva mantra, vedic healing teachings/techniques as well as receiving my Reiki Mastership. Prof. Sasi also blessed the Iraivan Shiva temple in Kaui. A place all interested in Hinduism or Shiva should pilgrimage to, highly recommended. One can pick up the biggest rudraksha's to your hearts content in their forest.


                                              Prof. Sasi He's the best palmist ever,(please don't ask to have him read you for free! lol) I myself had learned alot of palmistry in my youth and I knew my possible time of death was at age 40, I am now older , he was the only one who had the balls to see or to tell me , I of course surpassed it and now have what's called the eye of the dragon dot (found that out through a Grand Master ) which Prof. Sasi confirmed. All others except one old Russian priest I have called out as charlatans. Once I asked Sasi how many years it would take to learn palmistry from him and he laughed and said five years. For me having lived through my own death I am not currently interested in being immortal. Allthough I do have a friend I highly suspect is one , if I change my mind I will ask him. Unfortunately he is not on tribe nor does he have an email account. (so don't ask) He is hesitant about talking about his age, so we speak of the universe and other energetic topics. Maybe at some point he will get an email, i will ask him.

                                              If one wishes to learn them mantras properly I highly recommend the Vedic Healing Institute in LA. Yes guidance wherever possible from a master/satguru/rishi etc is of course recommended. lol

                                              As far as the Ayurvedic Institute in NM , I went once for the oil treatment (pachamkarma sp?) on the recommendation from a friend and great master oil maker Krishna Madappa of Taos NM and their oil consultant (see sacredoilsofkrishna.com) and unfortunately Dr. Vasant Lad was not there that day. So I waited for hours to see a dr and when I did he again kept me waiting. So when I did go in to see the dr. (forgot which) he was about to tell me what I needed I stopped him and asked him to let me tell him. Everything on his list I said and his mouth dropped open. So I walked out with the things I needed yet later noticed that much of their oils I had expired and their herbs were not very fresh. Unfortunately I could not return them because I was far away when I noticed. So ask them to check out how old things are before you order this was a few years ago so hopefully they have improved.
                                              Perhaps I may move back to NM and go to Chinese Medicine school maybe in abq or santa fe If so I may study at the Ayurvedic institute too from time to time if I can. I have 2 recomendations to go there from both Prof. Sasi and Krishna Madappa who of course are both friends with Dr. Vasant Lad yet what they can practice here in the states is very limited so I feel sofar more inclined to go to Chinese medicine allthough Ayurveda will always also be a field of study as well for me, since all medicines interest me.
                                              Jody please refrain from asking medicine people to work for free. We work our whole lives to study and help others heal themselves often giving away our medicines to those in need who are impoverished. These things cost money to replace at our own expense. We never ask it of others to do there mechanical, technical or secretarial work for free. Do you ask your car mechanic to fix your car for free? Would you want and trust a car mechanic who fixed your car for free? In order for healing to occur there should be some type of exchange between the one who wants healing and the practitioner. The one who needs help should reciprocate in some way, not always necessarily money can be done in service as well of some kind. Otherwise the work is not appreciated nor respected and then how can it be as effective if one does not feel it has value. How then will it have value to heal the one who needs it.

                                              Om Shri Gayatri Namaha
                                              Tushita
  • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

    Sun, November 11, 2007 - 9:09 PM
    Havent read all the stuff here.One fact :
    Mercury is the Semen of Lord Shiva.
    HaHaHa
    • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

      Sun, November 11, 2007 - 9:26 PM
      Thats why it is dangerous.
      • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

        Mon, November 12, 2007 - 3:09 AM
        n dats y He is called "Paradeshwar"
        • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

          Tue, April 1, 2008 - 8:34 AM
          Can we have the moderator's opinion here in this topic?
          Do you think this topic needs moderation?
          I am so happy to see so many of the informative posts here.
          Just a thought
          Tushita
          • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

            Tue, April 1, 2008 - 1:11 PM
            you rang?

            what would you like my opinion on?
            • Re: Mercury is very dangerous

              Thu, April 3, 2008 - 11:25 PM
              This thread brother if you feel it is necessary?
              Just a thought. Think we are all aware mrcury is dangerous;)
              Namaste to one and ALL
              • Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                Mon, April 7, 2008 - 12:03 AM
                This thread title and original post is insulting, stupid and not fitting with this tribe. Just my two cents.
                • Re: Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                  Mon, April 7, 2008 - 8:56 AM
                  > [this] thread title and original post is insulting, stupid
                  *****
                  Tell that to this guy:

                  > severe poisoning from long-term exposure to mercury
                  > vapor sent a Las Vegas 17-year-old youth to a hospital's
                  > intensive care unit for a week, and the exposure may cause
                  > lifelong effects.

                  www.medicalnewstoday.com/artic...62.php
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                    Mon, April 7, 2008 - 11:22 PM

                    This tribe should be invitation only.
                    • Re: Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                      Tue, April 8, 2008 - 1:48 AM
                      > This tribe should be invitation only.
                      *****
                      It's a cold, hard fact, my friend. Mercury is a highly toxic poison.
                      • Re: Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                        Tue, April 8, 2008 - 1:56 AM
                        heh. if it was invitation only, you'd both still be here.

                        my response to the original poster still stands - I don't think anyone here needs to be warned of the dangers of unaltered mercury. we are adults. anyone who is practicing ayurveda utilizing mercury is going to have much more experience in handling the material than I do. I doubt very highly that learning about Aghoris or picking up one of Svoboda's books means one is gonna break open their thermometer and start playing with mercury in ignorant bliss.

                        that said, my opinion as to this thread is that while I thought the original post was a bit hysterical, some interesting discussion has come up that is worth retaining for posterity, unless everyone involved in the discussion wants to cut and paste only their own comments (which I don't expect everyone to do) or I selectively delete posts (which I will NOT do unless someone drops some highly offensive bullshit or spam).
                        • Re: Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                          Sat, April 12, 2008 - 3:40 AM
                          heh. if it was invitation only, you'd both still be here.

                          I thanked the witches for this earlier!

                          Cold mercury Hard mercury .....All different stuff.

                          Here is one line for yall from the Ocean Of Mercury

                          "He who eats cow meat and drinks the liquor of immortality, I consider to be one of the lineage and a connoisseuer in the science of mercury. Others experts in the science of mercury are inferior."
                          • Re: Mercury is the goal of Yoga

                            Sat, April 12, 2008 - 3:53 AM
                            "The Sinner who, considereing himself to be liberated through his knowledge of the absolute, disparages mercury, loses my protection even for a billion rebirths. He is born as a dog, O Goddess , for as many as a thousand births; by offending mercury, he is reborn as a cat for 30 million births, a donkey for a hundred thousand births, a crow for a hundred thousands births, a worm for a hundred thousand births, A wild cock for a hundred thousand births, and a vulture for a hundred thousand births. He who talks to or who has bodily contact with those who are revillers of mercury, he too becomes afflicted with sorrows for as many as a thousand rebirths. "

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