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(( WATCH THE VIDEO LINKED ABOVE - ALOT OF INTERESTING VIDEOS ON UFOs ))
"DID GOVERNMENT COVER UP UFOs?"
== LARRY KING: ==
- We begin with shocking allegations;
that UFO's have interfeared with missilies at U.S. Air Force bases,
and, aliens are monitoring Nuclear Warheads and bombs!
Our first guest claim;
UFO's have activated missilesystems at 5 airforce bases, in 5 different states..
they also claim: "A COVER UP!"
That the United States Government is keeping the information secret!
Former Air Force Officers and an Investigator are here with their storys:
Here in Los Angeles is Robert Haistings.
Hes author of "UFOs and nukes"
(I have the book right here,
the book is available at www.ufohastings.com
He has been investigating sightings at weaponsites for years.
Bob Salas is a fmr Captain (USAF) U.S. Air Force Base -
at the U.S. Air Force,
he was at Malmstrom Air Force base in 1967
when there were claim of UFO's cause missils to malfunction.
He's co-author of "Faded Giant".
Bob Jamison is with us, former U.S. Air Force Officer,
he was at Malmstrom as well in 1967,
and he sais his superiors told him:
"UFO's caused the malfunctions!"
...
And, in Peoyre Illinois, Dr. Bob Jacobs;
former 1st Lt. U.S. Air Force,
former U.S. Air Force photographic instrumentational Officer -
a UFO showed up on film, that he shot at 1964,
at Vandenburg Air Force base -
and that was later confiscated by CIA agents.
--------------
All of our guests are named 'Bob'
so Im gonna call them by their last names..
We'll start with Robert Hastings:
- What's YOUR explanation on UFOs at nuclear weaponsites?
== Robert Hastings replies: ==
- I can simply say after 35 years of research
that these incidents *HAVE* taken place!
There are hundreds of declassefied documents;
which indicate that UFOs have demonstrated a distinct
and on-going interest in our nuclear weapon sites!
Ive also interviewed nearly a hundred gentlemen
who were involved in these incidents, in various Air Force bases.
This is VERY WIDESPREAD.
What you are seeing here this evening, this is a TIP OF THE ICEBERG!
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- How do they cause the malfunction?
What do they do to cause something to NOT work?
== Reply from Robert Hastings: ==
- I think thats probably still an "unknown"...
Ah, I know that Boeing engineers attempted to duplicate some of the malfunctions,
they did succeeded in doing that, but they still cant determine what initially caused them.
Bob Salas could adress that...
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Bob, what happened at Malmstrom in 1967?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- 1967 I was on duty as Missile Launch Officer.
I get calls from my guards upstairs;
first I get one call saying that
"they're seeing strange lights flying in the sky",
and I didnt pay too much attention to that...
About 5 min later..
main security guard; the flight security controller calls down says
hes looking a glowing red object, very large,
hoovering over the front gate..
he wants to know what to do...
I tell him to secure the facility...
We hang up, I go to tell my Commanders..
So, within seconds of that call - my missiles start shutting down!
I recall loosing all .... (cant hear the word)
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- You didnt see the object?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- I didnt see the object,
because I was obliged to stay under ground,
in the capsul.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- By "shutting down", we mean what?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- By "shutting down", what I mean is;
they were NOT launchable...
they were in "No Go"-Condition; Disabled.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- How long to restart them?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- How long to restart?
Ah.. well, Im sure it took over a day.. and... maby
(nodds towards Bob Jamison)
== LARRY KING: ==
- Alright! And Bob Jamesson, you were there too, right?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Yes, sir.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- You were in the Air Force?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Yes, I was in the Air Force.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Were where you when this was happening?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- I was a missile targeting Officer,
I was at home, relaxing.
And I got a call from job control to tell me to come in.
A missile had gone down...
My job as a missile targeting officer was to bring'em back up.
and so I went in...
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- So you didnt see the incident, you just went to the missile?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- I went to the site.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Where is Malmstrom?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Its Great Falls Montana, just outside of Great Falls, Montana.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- What did you make of the story?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Well I know that ITS TRUE!
I went into job-control after I got to the hangar..
I was called in, went to the hangar, went to the job-control,
and I noticed...;
they have a map of the whole complex..
the green lights were the missiles were good...
BUT theres one small area with 10 red lights:
means those missils were out.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Is it possible they just malfunctioned?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- It doesnt happen...
VERY RARELY does a missile malfunction,
and I dont think any...
much more rarest would be 2 at the same time,
but NEVER 10!
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Bob Jacobs, where were you,
what were you filming, and where were you?
== Bob Jacobs replies: ==
- I was Officer in charge of Optical Instrumentation
at Vandenberg Air Force base from 1963 til 1966.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Thats California?
== Bob Jacobs replies: ==
- Thats California! Yes sir, right down at the coast.
And our job was to photograph, with highspeed instrumentation -
every missile launch from Vandenberg going down the test-range.
They wanted to find out if we could figure out a place
to put a telescope or we could get a side-view of the missile;
so we could see all three stages of powered flake.
So I went up to Big Sur California,
up on a U.S. Force serviceroad on Anderson Peak,
and I installed the telescopic site up there...
The Air Force flew in a huge cadaductic (?) scope from The Cape..
( B.U. Telescope )
it was built by Dr Walter Manning at the Boston University.
They put the telescope up there, and with that thing,
which had a focal length of 2500 inches;
we photographed an Atlas Missile
racing up out of the fog caver and flying down range..
We got all 3 stages of powered flight,
and as the dummy warhead and the package flew on down range
we were all celebrating the fact that we had
seen the thing, and accomplished the mission.
When I got back to the base with the film the next day,
I was called into the Office of Major Florence Mansmann..
and there were 3 people in grey suits standing in there..
There was a 16mm camera and screen set up.
Major Mansmann said: "Lt. Sit down and watch this!"
And he turned down the lights,
turned on the camera on the projector
and the film came on...
... and I recognized it;
as the film that we'd shot at Big Sur, the previous day...
.. for the end of the flight I was looking at Major Mansmann
and said "Pretty good stuff, huh sir!"
and he said: "Just watch this!"
.. And, as I watched.. the dummy warhead,
the chaff that was put out in front of it as a decoy,
to deflect the russian auto missile tracking radar (?)
.. everything was flying along..
and suddenly -
in the same direction that this was flying;
at about 8000 miles an hour (!)
an object came into the frame,
shot a beam of light at the warhead,
flew up to the top;
shot another beam of light at the warhead...
flew around the direction it was flying;
shot another beam of light at the warhead...
flew down, shot another beam of light at the warhead,
and flew out the same way it came in!
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
== Robert Hastings: ==
- The U.S. Government does NOT *obviously* appretiate
people such as myself, and these gentlemen
speaking out about this...
What were describing; on an ongoing basis,
decade after decade, at MULTIPLE Air Force bases,
- is disruption of our Nuclear missils...
== LARRY KING: ==
- We have an email from Kyle, in Plainville Mass:
"Why would UFO's only disable U.S. defence systems,
and not another country?
Is there a lesson to be learned in all this?"
- What do you think, maby.. Bob Salas,
they HAVE disabled other countries?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- They have!
I know that there have been events in the Soviet Union,
they have interfeared there...
..they've been seen in just any country you could name.
And, they DO disable communications, especially..
== LARRY KING: ==
- We have an email from Eric in Atlantis, Georgia:
"What could be done, if anything,
to force the U.S. Government, and/or Military
to declassefy and release all it knows about UFO's?"
- Dr. Jacobs, when do you think that would happen,
do you think that would happen?
== Bob Jacobs replies: ==
- It would take a revolution in Public Opinion.
The problem with this field is -
its surrounded us with only crackpots and weirdos -
WHO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT IT...
; that THOSE OF US WHO TAKES IT SERIOUSLY
and think that something IS DEFINITLY GOING ON
that needs to be scientifically investigated..
are left out at the technian..
In the studio where Im at, I said...
we were talking about UFO's
and her face lid up, and she got that kind of
"mmmhhh..." - *growning* look...
which is typical of what happens to us...
I think that we need a real scientific committee
to be put together to look into these things...
I think Rober agree...
(Bob Salas nodds his head and says "I agree, Absolutely!")
== LARRY KING: ==
- Bob Salas you agree...
== Bob Salas: ==
- Yeah, I would like to make a comment real quick..
The Air Force has purpetraded a FRAUD...
Especially in our case!
They claim in their statement about UFO's;
that nothing has ever..
no UFO incident has ever affected National Security..
.. and, we lost 20 missiles during the Cold War..
They also stone-walled the Condon Committee at that time,
The Condon Committee had heard about our incident -
and were told to GO AWAY..
They said, they were told that NO UFO's were involved..
--- and then the U.S. Air Force turns around
and USES the Condon Committee,
as a reason NOT to further investigate the UFO's...
== LARRY KING: ==
- Robert Hastings, in doing all these shows..
what confounds me is; IF all this is true...
WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?
- What is the Government AFRAID of??
== Robert Hastings replies: ==
- Victor Marcetti is a a former high level CIA official,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Marchetti
( do look at that link, interesting reading! )
he wrote the book
"The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence" in 1975,
- a bestseller..
CIA tried to perhibit that it would be printed..
He, Victor Marcetti, in 1979, wrote an article
regarding what the CIA thought about UFO's..
He alluded to rumours that the Agency of crashed UFO's
and the recoveries of bodies of Aliens...
More to the point, Victor Marcetti said that,
in HIS view, as an Intelligent analyst,
he think that the Power structures;
The Elite, the "Status Quo"-people in every country on Earth,
that are in on this secret; are really trying to
maintain their own Power, and Status,
and dont want to rock the boat...
== LARRY KING: ==
- Email from Christian, Brighton, Colorado:
"When is the Air Force gonna stop lying to the people,
and finally tell'em the truth about Alien Visitation?
The American people are paying THEIR salarys,
AND they are SUPPOSED TO DEFEND AND RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION
of The United States of America...."
- Bob Jamison, do you think we will ever see
an Air Force official, secretary of the Air Force
come on and say "Heres the story..."
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Perhaps, a few more programs, such as this,
we can get the public tuned to the fact that
there were UFO, *ARE* UFO's ...
.. there not gonna hurt you, I think -
they havent hurt anybody I know off,
.. and I think that perhaps a few more programs
such as yours, and such as these people are bringing out
(turns towards the other men on the program)
== Bob Salas: ==
- ... and an government investigation...
.. an OPEN investigation!
== LARRY KING: ==
- Theres never been one right?
== Bob Salas replies: ==
- Not really, no.
I mean, in 1968 was the last congressional hearing on UFO's.
1968!!
== LARRY KING: ==
- 40 years...
== Bob Salas confirms: ==
- 40 years! We need another one.
We need a strong one!
Written down by Sunnely/Jess,
since Im from Sweden there might be alot of spelling faults..
Interesting and more info:
"Deliberate Deception: The Big Sur UFO Filming
A Critical Analysis of the Curious Events at Vandenberg Air Force Base
in September, 1964" - By Bob Jacobs, Ph.D. www.nicap.org/bigsur2.htm
~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *
NOTE: from Bob Jacobs excellent site above here: quote comment:
-- "But ... if at some time in the future," Florenz Mansmann said finally,
"you are pressed by someone about this and you can't get out of answering, just tell them ...
tell them it was flashes from laser tracking, O.K.?"
And with that, I was ushered out the door
and into over a decade of silence on the subject. >> Never mind that in 1964 we did not have laser tracking,
nor did we or any other power on Earth have spacecraft capable of flying circles around a suborbital capsule." <<
* *
*
edition.cnn.com/video/#/vi...fo.long.cnn
(( WATCH THE VIDEO LINKED ABOVE - ALOT OF INTERESTING VIDEOS ON UFOs ))
"DID GOVERNMENT COVER UP UFOs?"
== LARRY KING: ==
- We begin with shocking allegations;
that UFO's have interfeared with missilies at U.S. Air Force bases,
and, aliens are monitoring Nuclear Warheads and bombs!
Our first guest claim;
UFO's have activated missilesystems at 5 airforce bases, in 5 different states..
they also claim: "A COVER UP!"
That the United States Government is keeping the information secret!
Former Air Force Officers and an Investigator are here with their storys:
Here in Los Angeles is Robert Haistings.
Hes author of "UFOs and nukes"
(I have the book right here,
the book is available at www.ufohastings.com
He has been investigating sightings at weaponsites for years.
Bob Salas is a fmr Captain (USAF) U.S. Air Force Base -
at the U.S. Air Force,
he was at Malmstrom Air Force base in 1967
when there were claim of UFO's cause missils to malfunction.
He's co-author of "Faded Giant".
Bob Jamison is with us, former U.S. Air Force Officer,
he was at Malmstrom as well in 1967,
and he sais his superiors told him:
"UFO's caused the malfunctions!"
...
And, in Peoyre Illinois, Dr. Bob Jacobs;
former 1st Lt. U.S. Air Force,
former U.S. Air Force photographic instrumentational Officer -
a UFO showed up on film, that he shot at 1964,
at Vandenburg Air Force base -
and that was later confiscated by CIA agents.
--------------
All of our guests are named 'Bob'
so Im gonna call them by their last names..
We'll start with Robert Hastings:
- What's YOUR explanation on UFOs at nuclear weaponsites?
== Robert Hastings replies: ==
- I can simply say after 35 years of research
that these incidents *HAVE* taken place!
There are hundreds of declassefied documents;
which indicate that UFOs have demonstrated a distinct
and on-going interest in our nuclear weapon sites!
Ive also interviewed nearly a hundred gentlemen
who were involved in these incidents, in various Air Force bases.
This is VERY WIDESPREAD.
What you are seeing here this evening, this is a TIP OF THE ICEBERG!
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- How do they cause the malfunction?
What do they do to cause something to NOT work?
== Reply from Robert Hastings: ==
- I think thats probably still an "unknown"...
Ah, I know that Boeing engineers attempted to duplicate some of the malfunctions,
they did succeeded in doing that, but they still cant determine what initially caused them.
Bob Salas could adress that...
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Bob, what happened at Malmstrom in 1967?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- 1967 I was on duty as Missile Launch Officer.
I get calls from my guards upstairs;
first I get one call saying that
"they're seeing strange lights flying in the sky",
and I didnt pay too much attention to that...
About 5 min later..
main security guard; the flight security controller calls down says
hes looking a glowing red object, very large,
hoovering over the front gate..
he wants to know what to do...
I tell him to secure the facility...
We hang up, I go to tell my Commanders..
So, within seconds of that call - my missiles start shutting down!
I recall loosing all .... (cant hear the word)
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- You didnt see the object?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- I didnt see the object,
because I was obliged to stay under ground,
in the capsul.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- By "shutting down", we mean what?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- By "shutting down", what I mean is;
they were NOT launchable...
they were in "No Go"-Condition; Disabled.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- How long to restart them?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- How long to restart?
Ah.. well, Im sure it took over a day.. and... maby
(nodds towards Bob Jamison)
== LARRY KING: ==
- Alright! And Bob Jamesson, you were there too, right?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Yes, sir.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- You were in the Air Force?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Yes, I was in the Air Force.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Were where you when this was happening?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- I was a missile targeting Officer,
I was at home, relaxing.
And I got a call from job control to tell me to come in.
A missile had gone down...
My job as a missile targeting officer was to bring'em back up.
and so I went in...
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- So you didnt see the incident, you just went to the missile?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- I went to the site.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Where is Malmstrom?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Its Great Falls Montana, just outside of Great Falls, Montana.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- What did you make of the story?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Well I know that ITS TRUE!
I went into job-control after I got to the hangar..
I was called in, went to the hangar, went to the job-control,
and I noticed...;
they have a map of the whole complex..
the green lights were the missiles were good...
BUT theres one small area with 10 red lights:
means those missils were out.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Is it possible they just malfunctioned?
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- It doesnt happen...
VERY RARELY does a missile malfunction,
and I dont think any...
much more rarest would be 2 at the same time,
but NEVER 10!
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Bob Jacobs, where were you,
what were you filming, and where were you?
== Bob Jacobs replies: ==
- I was Officer in charge of Optical Instrumentation
at Vandenberg Air Force base from 1963 til 1966.
== LARRY KING asks: ==
- Thats California?
== Bob Jacobs replies: ==
- Thats California! Yes sir, right down at the coast.
And our job was to photograph, with highspeed instrumentation -
every missile launch from Vandenberg going down the test-range.
They wanted to find out if we could figure out a place
to put a telescope or we could get a side-view of the missile;
so we could see all three stages of powered flake.
So I went up to Big Sur California,
up on a U.S. Force serviceroad on Anderson Peak,
and I installed the telescopic site up there...
The Air Force flew in a huge cadaductic (?) scope from The Cape..
( B.U. Telescope )
it was built by Dr Walter Manning at the Boston University.
They put the telescope up there, and with that thing,
which had a focal length of 2500 inches;
we photographed an Atlas Missile
racing up out of the fog caver and flying down range..
We got all 3 stages of powered flight,
and as the dummy warhead and the package flew on down range
we were all celebrating the fact that we had
seen the thing, and accomplished the mission.
When I got back to the base with the film the next day,
I was called into the Office of Major Florence Mansmann..
and there were 3 people in grey suits standing in there..
There was a 16mm camera and screen set up.
Major Mansmann said: "Lt. Sit down and watch this!"
And he turned down the lights,
turned on the camera on the projector
and the film came on...
... and I recognized it;
as the film that we'd shot at Big Sur, the previous day...
.. for the end of the flight I was looking at Major Mansmann
and said "Pretty good stuff, huh sir!"
and he said: "Just watch this!"
.. And, as I watched.. the dummy warhead,
the chaff that was put out in front of it as a decoy,
to deflect the russian auto missile tracking radar (?)
.. everything was flying along..
and suddenly -
in the same direction that this was flying;
at about 8000 miles an hour (!)
an object came into the frame,
shot a beam of light at the warhead,
flew up to the top;
shot another beam of light at the warhead...
flew around the direction it was flying;
shot another beam of light at the warhead...
flew down, shot another beam of light at the warhead,
and flew out the same way it came in!
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
== Robert Hastings: ==
- The U.S. Government does NOT *obviously* appretiate
people such as myself, and these gentlemen
speaking out about this...
What were describing; on an ongoing basis,
decade after decade, at MULTIPLE Air Force bases,
- is disruption of our Nuclear missils...
== LARRY KING: ==
- We have an email from Kyle, in Plainville Mass:
"Why would UFO's only disable U.S. defence systems,
and not another country?
Is there a lesson to be learned in all this?"
- What do you think, maby.. Bob Salas,
they HAVE disabled other countries?
== Reply from Bob Salas: ==
- They have!
I know that there have been events in the Soviet Union,
they have interfeared there...
..they've been seen in just any country you could name.
And, they DO disable communications, especially..
== LARRY KING: ==
- We have an email from Eric in Atlantis, Georgia:
"What could be done, if anything,
to force the U.S. Government, and/or Military
to declassefy and release all it knows about UFO's?"
- Dr. Jacobs, when do you think that would happen,
do you think that would happen?
== Bob Jacobs replies: ==
- It would take a revolution in Public Opinion.
The problem with this field is -
its surrounded us with only crackpots and weirdos -
WHO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT IT...
; that THOSE OF US WHO TAKES IT SERIOUSLY
and think that something IS DEFINITLY GOING ON
that needs to be scientifically investigated..
are left out at the technian..
In the studio where Im at, I said...
we were talking about UFO's
and her face lid up, and she got that kind of
"mmmhhh..." - *growning* look...
which is typical of what happens to us...
I think that we need a real scientific committee
to be put together to look into these things...
I think Rober agree...
(Bob Salas nodds his head and says "I agree, Absolutely!")
== LARRY KING: ==
- Bob Salas you agree...
== Bob Salas: ==
- Yeah, I would like to make a comment real quick..
The Air Force has purpetraded a FRAUD...
Especially in our case!
They claim in their statement about UFO's;
that nothing has ever..
no UFO incident has ever affected National Security..
.. and, we lost 20 missiles during the Cold War..
They also stone-walled the Condon Committee at that time,
The Condon Committee had heard about our incident -
and were told to GO AWAY..
They said, they were told that NO UFO's were involved..
--- and then the U.S. Air Force turns around
and USES the Condon Committee,
as a reason NOT to further investigate the UFO's...
== LARRY KING: ==
- Robert Hastings, in doing all these shows..
what confounds me is; IF all this is true...
WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?
- What is the Government AFRAID of??
== Robert Hastings replies: ==
- Victor Marcetti is a a former high level CIA official,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Marchetti
( do look at that link, interesting reading! )
he wrote the book
"The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence" in 1975,
- a bestseller..
CIA tried to perhibit that it would be printed..
He, Victor Marcetti, in 1979, wrote an article
regarding what the CIA thought about UFO's..
He alluded to rumours that the Agency of crashed UFO's
and the recoveries of bodies of Aliens...
More to the point, Victor Marcetti said that,
in HIS view, as an Intelligent analyst,
he think that the Power structures;
The Elite, the "Status Quo"-people in every country on Earth,
that are in on this secret; are really trying to
maintain their own Power, and Status,
and dont want to rock the boat...
== LARRY KING: ==
- Email from Christian, Brighton, Colorado:
"When is the Air Force gonna stop lying to the people,
and finally tell'em the truth about Alien Visitation?
The American people are paying THEIR salarys,
AND they are SUPPOSED TO DEFEND AND RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION
of The United States of America...."
- Bob Jamison, do you think we will ever see
an Air Force official, secretary of the Air Force
come on and say "Heres the story..."
== Bob Jamison replies: ==
- Perhaps, a few more programs, such as this,
we can get the public tuned to the fact that
there were UFO, *ARE* UFO's ...
.. there not gonna hurt you, I think -
they havent hurt anybody I know off,
.. and I think that perhaps a few more programs
such as yours, and such as these people are bringing out
(turns towards the other men on the program)
== Bob Salas: ==
- ... and an government investigation...
.. an OPEN investigation!
== LARRY KING: ==
- Theres never been one right?
== Bob Salas replies: ==
- Not really, no.
I mean, in 1968 was the last congressional hearing on UFO's.
1968!!
== LARRY KING: ==
- 40 years...
== Bob Salas confirms: ==
- 40 years! We need another one.
We need a strong one!
Written down by Sunnely/Jess,
since Im from Sweden there might be alot of spelling faults..
Interesting and more info:
"Deliberate Deception: The Big Sur UFO Filming
A Critical Analysis of the Curious Events at Vandenberg Air Force Base
in September, 1964" - By Bob Jacobs, Ph.D. www.nicap.org/bigsur2.htm
~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ *
NOTE: from Bob Jacobs excellent site above here: quote comment:
-- "But ... if at some time in the future," Florenz Mansmann said finally,
"you are pressed by someone about this and you can't get out of answering, just tell them ...
tell them it was flashes from laser tracking, O.K.?"
And with that, I was ushered out the door
and into over a decade of silence on the subject. >> Never mind that in 1964 we did not have laser tracking,
nor did we or any other power on Earth have spacecraft capable of flying circles around a suborbital capsule." <<
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 4:05 PM
This video confirms the first one posted above; where they discuss WHY its a coverup;
the statements quoted from the CIA officer; Victor Marchetti, (from the 70's) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Marchetti
goes along with this video below:
WHY THE SECRECY? www.youtube.com/watch
" Here are the disclosures of the alien and UFO phenomena by high ranking government officials;
military, astronautical, scientific and political figures.
The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project
working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence,
and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems.
They have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying
to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology,
and the cover-up that keeps this information secret. "
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** DR. STEVEN GREER **
.. "This now brings us to the very big issue of WHY?
Why the secrecy...?
WHY has this been kept away from the public, all these years?
Many witnesses feel, that in the early days -
in the 30's and 40's and perhaps 50's...
that there was concern for how the average person
would react to this information....
That perhaps society was not prepared...
Either on a theological bases,
or on a social bases and economic bases;
for this information...
I will not dispute that fact.
I was a child in the 50's.
Just born in the mid 50's...
and I do not know, personally, what the mileau was..
..that could have affected how people would react.
I WILL say, that this is 2001.. and NOT 1951!
And in the last half century - THAT argument is NO LONGER VALID.
The world has seen humans walk on the moon.
My uncle was one of the designers of the Lunar Module;
that took Neil Armstrong to the moon...
I dont believe anyone living today, on this planet,
would be shocked to hear that there is life in the universe!
..AND that we HAVE been visited!
I *do* think, that the reasons for secrecy
evolved in the 50's up til this day -
and, they have MUCH MORE to do with the ECONOMIC order
and - the FACT, that the technologies related to these
extraterrestrial vehicles - as well as HUMAN breakthroughs,
unrelated to these extraterrestrial vehicles -
have given us ENERGY and PRUPULSION SYSTEMS
WITHIN THE BLACK BUDGET, compartmented, unacknowledged world...
WHICH would have a SIGNIFICANT BENEFITIAL effect FOR THE WORLD!
BUT!! Would have a dilatterious, short-termeffect
for certain "special interest"....................
I believe these "special interest" would include:
- the CONVENTIONAL ENERGY
- part of our ECONOMY
- the internal COMBUSTION ENGINEs
- the FOSSIL FUELPLANTS
( gas, oil, coal... )
- and Ionizing NUCLEAR technology...
( technology related to Nuclear PowerPlants )
==>> WE *know*, that those technologies are ALREADY obscolete!!!!!
I wanna emphesize here = that THIS IS NOT A THEORY!!!
We *have* testimony from people who WORKED ON these Projects;
within these projects! That can establish the FACT that
we HAVE FULLY OPERATIONAL TECHNOLOGIES, WHICH WOULD ENABLE THE WORLD
TO HAVE NO NEED FOR THESE POLLUTING FORMS OF ENERGY!!
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** PROFESSSOR TED LODER **
( University New Hampshire )
- The first Question;
and this is probably one of the major reasons WHY
this topic has been kept quiet so long...
The first question that one might ask,
even the man or a woman on the street is gonna ask:
"Well, if there are these peoples, from other planets -
and they are here visiting us... HOW DID THEY GET HERE?!
Did they have to come at the speed of light?
.. and take 4 to hundreds of years to get here?
.. even at the speed of light....?
or, did they come with using some other technology?
THEN -
WHERE DID THEY GET THE ENERGY to travel these great speeds?
.. and then we start to look into the energy they ARENT using:
- jetfuel.. they ARENT using
- coal.. to get here..
They are using technolgies, that the average guy in the street
==>>> THE AVERAGE PHYSISIST in a University DOESNT HAVE ANY CLUE ABOUT!!!!!! <<<==
-- and YET - its VERY REAL....
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** DR. EUGENE MALLOVE **
( Dir. New Energy Research labs - Aeronautical Engineer )
- In a few instances, I can say that
CLEARLY OVERUNITY ELECTROMAGNETIC DEVICES;
things that produce MORE electrical energy OUT, then in.
... We are not in Kansas anylonger... ( refering to "Wizard of OZ"-classic movie )
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** DR. PAUL CZYSZ **
( United States Air Force - McDonald Douglas Engineer )
- Zero Point Energy represents
about 40-50 MegaWatts of power per cubic inch of space..
thats... ALOT of Power!!
Thats 4600 MILLION watts of Power!
... and IF you could "tap" it, at will -
then NOONE would "have to" sell gasoline or oil anymore!!
You would just tap into it... it would be like taking...
like going out to the great lakes, and taking out ONE DROP
and using it... youd hardly miss it!
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** TOM BEARDEN **
( Lt. Col. U.S. Army. Ret. - Military Research & Development )
- Yes, there is a history... a long history of Overunity systems!
The... For example Nicola Tesla had one...
basicly his big magnifying transformer that he had on Long Island,
was such an overunity system...
... So, this was ONE thing that we established,
on the study of the foundations of electromagnetics!
You ARE PERMITTED TO HAVE AN ELECTROMAGNETIC SYSTEM
THAT POWER THEMSELVES AND ARE LOADED -
and you dont have to put in any energy,
they take it from the vacuum...
the active vacuum...
The bottom line of this is -
that if we'll initiate the negative entropy -
and let it go...
its just like you punsched a whole in the ground
and youve got a big gusher of oil...
You dont have to furnish the preassure,
and you dont have to furnish the oil -
"here it comes!" .......
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** DANIEL SALTER **
( U.S. Air Force, Cheif Master Sergeant - NRO )
- Well, if you have one of these units..
you know, thats about 16 inches long,
and about 8 inches high, and about 10 inches wide -
then, you dont need to plug into 'Kit Carson';
the local electric company....
It burns NOTHING, no pollution, okey?!
It never wears out, cuz theres no moving parts..
WHAT THE PEOPLE IN POWER RIGHT NOW, DONT WANT US TO KNOW,
IS THAT THIS 'FREE ENERGY' IS AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY .......!!
========= CONCLUSIONS =========
** DR. STEVEN GREER **
- In conclusion,
I would like to state, that this is a matter
at the UTMOST significance.. to the American people,
but also to peoples throughout the world..
WE CAN ESTABLISH NOW - THAT WE ARE *NOT* ALONE!
It can be proven, that there are technologies
which could give us a new and sustainable civilisation!
And we are certain, that the secrecy surrounding this issue
constitutes a threat, to the National Security,
and to the security of the whole entire world!
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** DANIEL SALTER **
( U.S. Air Force, Cheif Master Sergeant - NRO )
- This whole project - to bringing this OUT IN THE OPEN;
will probably take other people too....
but.. Myself - Im 73 years old (this was 2001)
... and... Ive had a good life... and no regrets..
and Ive loved this country!
And, Ive been a christian all my life..
since I was about 11 years old..
.. and.. so... I belive GOD wants us to know!!
I believe that Cosmos wants us to know...
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** JOHN CALLAHAN **
( Senior FAA Official - Accidents, Investigations )
- It still bothers me, that ... Ive seen all this,
I *know* all this - and, like Im walking around with all the answers!!
and NOBODY wants to ask the question.. - to GET the answer....
and it kind of irritates me a little bit..
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** JOHN MAYNARD **
( Retired Military Intelligence Analyst - Army Security, DIA )
- Its about time for them to just COME FORWARD, and say:
"Hey - THIS IS IT!!"
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** SERGEANT CLIFFORD STONE **
( U.S. Army - Extraterrestrial Retrieval Team )
- Its a TRUTH, that the ENTIRE WORLD has to be informed about..!!
And, that truth is: MAN IS NOT ALONE!
========= SUMMARY OF REQUESTED ACTIONS =========
Full, open congressional hearings
to investigate the ET/UFO subject,
including witness testimony
with release from security oaths.
Immediate legislation and national / international treaties
to BAN SPACE BASED WEAPONS.
Presidential action to declassify the ET / UFO subject.
Declassification and release of currently classified technologies
that could ameliorate the environmental and energy crisis.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE CONTACT -
The Disclosure Project
Phone: (540) 456-8302
Fax: (540) 456-8303
Email: disclosure2001@cs.com
www.disclosureproject.org
Executive Producer Dr. Steven M. Greer
Producer Jeff Thill
Producer Ross Danielson
All witness testimony contained on this DVD
is the sole property of "The Disclosure Project"
with all rights reserved.
Copyright 2001
VIDEO ON YOUTUBE: www.youtube.com/watch
Written down by Sunnely/Jess
(from Sweden,
so please correct the spelling faults you might find..)
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Re: thanx kapt
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:49 PMI'm pretty sure Larry King did not originate from this world! :P
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 12:09 PMGood Work Jess... And is exactly What I am talking about... Earth Humans Were able to build Free Energy Devices back in the 1900s, so why do we not have Free Energy... Same Reason UFOs are secret... And it is not Because Everyone Will Panic... That is the Fear Tactic At work... Most People already know... All native cultures I can think of know... We have always known. The "Secrecy" is the new thing... Not UFOs... Or in this Case... Interstellar Craft... Heck some are Intergalactic... Not to mention Interdimensional... We know what they are... The Silly Factor is one of the biggest things still keeping it secret too... Most people are afraid to come forward even today, not because they fear the government, But because they fear their Peers... we have been turned into Human Watch Dogs, Keeping Tabs on other Humans... While an Alien Presence... (Alien For Some anyway) Has been manipulating 'Shadows' on our 'Cave Wall'... -
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HEAR! HEAR! kapt
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 3:40 PM"Good Work Jess... And is exactly What I am talking about... Earth Humans Were able to build Free Energy Devices back in the 1900s, so why do we not have Free Energy... Same Reason UFOs are secret... And it is not Because Everyone Will Panic... That is the Fear Tactic At work... Most People already know... All native cultures I can think of know... We have always known. The "Secrecy" is the new thing... Not UFOs... Or in this Case... Interstellar Craft... Heck some are Intergalactic... Not to mention Interdimensional... We know what they are... The Silly Factor is one of the biggest things still keeping it secret too... Most people are afraid to come forward even today, not because they fear the government, But because they fear their Peers... we have been turned into Human Watch Dogs, Keeping Tabs on other Humans... While an Alien Presence... (Alien For Some anyway) Has been manipulating 'Shadows' on our 'Cave Wall'..."
BONG GO
and sted E az we grow
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:59 PMSunnley, (list 'moderator')
1) cross posting of other people's work is considered rude, and is often in violation of posted copyrights,
2) cross posting of LONG text into an e-mail list forum, is viewed with disdain by list operators, 'cause the server must BACKUP all of the extraneous text, when simply a URL link or other citation would suffice...if people want to read it, they will take the effort to do so, by following the link, if not, they won't read the cross-post either,
3) moderators are supposed to prevent this type posting behavior.
Re; CNN & Larry King, yeah, it was really stinky and completely in the normal gendra of so-called TV information. Just entertainment, its all fiction, isn't it? Ask any Howlywood TV show producer about aliens and their machines, it may surprise you how many think its all hokum. Why, its "all bullshit", and how do they know? Cause Howlywood is the king of bullshit production.
In the context of alien presence information, Governments, or more accurately, I presume, the military and the high level agenda strategists, treat alien presence information as being vital for a variety of reasons. With the advent of the past two world-wars, planners, all recognize, in hind sight, the efficacy of the advanced technology in the promotion of their (those who were succesful) political agenda projection. In other words, the guys who won. With advent and successful development and deployment of the 'atomic-bomb', which brought about the nearly instantaneous susceation(sp?) of WW-II operations in the far east, it has become quite clear that advanced technology is valuable. Interestingly, nearly all contact with alien technology (by those who are trained observers) has resulted in new technowledgy development. Much of it has been military, while some commercial. I am not saying that aliens 'gave' or has 'traded' technology, I intend that the simple act of observing alein behavioral activity has promoted new thought and caused the creation of wholly Human developed technowlegies.
Take for instance the sonic-boom remedy which nearly all US Military supersonic aerospace vehicles employ. Discs don't generate sonic booms, something which Paul Hill observed and developed by, 'copying' the behavior which he observed visually and through having studied good quality 'sighting reports'. How valuable is that information to government or aka military? Did you know that the idea of a scanning cathode-ray-tube being utilized for Television development was caused by suspected alien interaction during a US Navy ET contact experiment in the late 1800's? Fascinating stuff. You bet your ass the governments of the world are hiding any information which they gleen through observations of alien presence and rightfully so. They are not covering-up as the babblers grunt-out. I suspect that there may also be an additional logic in this matter. The military does not want to disclose to the aliens, via public information 'leakage' how much Earthians understand about alien presence and technologies. Military never desires that a potential threat may know what is known about each other, that information is kept secret, 'loose lips sink ships'. Everything is about knowledge, which in turn reveals vulnerabilities. Ever wonder why the alien objects are seen most frequently over power-plants, water-reclamation facilities, cattle heards (and the high strangeness attendant cattle mutilations), military physics (Phoenix Lights) research centers and military bases? Often alien craft are seen flying in eschelon formation...a classic military form. Yes, it is the opinion of many Earthian military planners, Earth is being visited by alien military. How much of that should be public? And then we have babblers like Larry King who is likely clueless about the centuries old Human observations of alien presence, the ~5,000 books written about the subject and the 100,000s of sighting reports which have been collected around the world. How good was the show? Did it disclose anything of value?
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 12:21 AM"Yes, it is the opinion of many Earthian military planners, Earth is being visited by alien military."
and thee konfusion iz thus perpetuated, benefiting only thee powerz that bee........
kross posting iz fun
sew iz kopywriting ;;>)))
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 12:32 AMpp: And then we have babblers like Larry King who is likely clueless...
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 11:59 PM
well, he is not the only one...
let's hang the moderator...
tr: you bring the rope and...
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 12:41 AMlet's hang the moderator...
tr: you bring the rope and...
well, you can do it all
but i doubt if anybody else will show up
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they DID say this was a hostile planet........and 2 think eye didnt B leave them when they told me sew......
sea 4 m'eye self eye have......
lynchingz and mob hunts and witch killingz and skool massacres and gang warfare etc etc etc etc.......
eye wanna go 'home'........ -
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 2:48 AMRelax Bedouin! This is just how these monkey/angels wake up... Grouchy!!
Did you forget the Chicken/Head syndrome?
Sounds like someone needs a fresh uplink to Mission Control ;P~
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 3:22 AMRoger - that kind of remarks are def against the "rules" of tribe. Im sure your "brothers in arms" tron-ee can give you a lesson. As for commenting to what you suggested as a reply on what I posted - how the hell can you even imagine hanging the messenger of a program on tv which YOU cant even argue against with dignity - to be a solution of your OBVIOUS problems?
Also, Id suggest you dont hide behind Tron-ee as a Beavis-Butthead type of gang-mentality when it comes to joining in a mission against "me" in this case - stand on your own if you can. But, once again... if you got a problem with THE SUBJECT, discuss the topic since you quoted "babblers like larry king as clueless" - and not me, right? Dont mix up the right hand with the left when you argue.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 7:48 AMwow?
originally i thought tr was the idiot
he displayed his idiocity from the get go.
i simply paraphrased his poorly founded intention
as maybe i was laughing too hard
me back him? now
you have patted him on the back
i thought it quite funny tho,
larry king is clueless
him and his softball questions
gee, call me on grammar checker or something
sure, i got problems, i have a cat
what's your excuse?
btw: you sure know how to take things out of context
plus
internalize it, (take it personnally)
man, take a warm bath or something
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:25 AMRoger - perhaps were all idiots to you, still its not the topic here.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 3:14 AMTron-ee *lol* and YOURE the right person to talk about LONG text??
Go back to other threads, where you always copy ALL the text written by someone above before you reply... But then its not a problem..... RIGHT?! ; )
Also, cross-posting of other peoples work? What do you mean? I wrote down the text from these programs, and they want to get their message out, so I hardly think they will be upset if I text it so its readable. Its commercial for them, not the contrary - YOU on the other hand are trying to point out things that WILL see to that this information DOES NOT come out, not only this but also when I posted about MJ12.
This is a SPLENDID example of Ad Hominem. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem I am more and more conviced you are a so called "debunker". And your rude, you do namecalling and that is not either appretiated, if you want a paragraph-war? And PLEASE use space between your LOOONG chunk of text.
As for the MJ12 and your reply there - Ive collected, gathered evidence of these projects you said werent existing.
I wonder, why is this military discussion seems to be a sensitive subject to you? You are arrogant in your reply as if you want to defend the US military? Is there a war against alien militarys then? Well, then the MJ12 documents werent as hard to relate to at all. Otherwise - just keep on pointing out flaws in the posting-technique of OTHERS, and keep on giving yourself the liberty to do as you choose when it sutes your agenda.
THAT tactic you did try here doesnt work either, Tron. But point taken.... funny though, that others are given freedom to do what ever they wish here in this eniment platform. For example I posted the film ZEITGEIST video.google.com/videoplay Or go to: www.zeitgeistmovie.com - in several forums, which was taken away - in the basis of that it was spam, cuz I posted it with too little time frame in diff forums. THOUGH Ive done alooot of screendumps from tribes first page, which shows hundres of others doing this on a daily bases - BUT their subject wasnt controversial; but more entertainment nonsens. So - its clear these forums are guarded by watchmen who has an agenda when it comes to certain topics.
AND its too bad many are stuck in the "war"-mentality too. Cuz warriors of today often lack of humanism, and are too ego-ruled.I wonder whos "alien" here in this world... or least humane... Its an obsession to see everthing as a threat. The MESSAGE might be: They arent disturbing the Peace - they are DISTURBING THE WARs...
Flying around in a certain pattern might NOT be that they are "out to get US" - and Ive seen aloot of videos of UFOs when they def dont hold a military line. Ah, but if youve see this as "hokum and stinky bullshit by blabbers" - how come, you at the same time reason about it to present the angle of it, that you do? Curious.
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 11:00 AMWhat the hell is going on here? I already left one group because of this stuff. This used to be an interesting tribe. Get off it and get over it, get back to the subject and ignore any posts or posters that bother you. It is the adult thing to do, but to continue to engage with the energy trying to make yourself 'right' and the other wrong is a waste. And there are ways to stick up for yourself without using a lot of words.
Also, I do have to say, Sunnily, that I think your posts are way too long and I rarely make it through the whole thing. If you could put a link up with a synopsis of the material it would be much easier on me, and maybe more people would read your stuff.
Now if it is a long post that is your words that is different. We all need practice writing and it is no skin off my nose if someone has a lot to say, I just would rather have a link instead of the whole thing, mainly because it is hard to read on this format.
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 11:55 AMthank you! This hostility amongst these tribes must stop!!!
Sunnily, a link would be nice with a brief synopsis of the content. It saves me time when I only have a few minutes to browse about my tribes on a busy day at work. :)
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:12 AMI got the message - but where can I AND am I allowed to; - upload text AND what is the best format to read?
Everyones got their oppinion.. I was stupid enough to think it was easier to discuss
IF you COULD have text and simply copy their comments
if there was anything in what they said you wanted to Quote....
(just so you know the reason why I wrote it down, and it took me hours.)
I WANTED to ask - do you think this "alien" or extraterrestrial information that comes in mainstream media is because some agenda?
Why else right now? When Ive at the same time heard about the "alien agenda" - that the military will use the "Alien Threat" as one of their cards to play out........ Quote Werner Von Braun, statement by Carol Von Rosin - please see video:
Carol Rosin explains how she was told by Warner Von Braun
that space would be weaponized and how she became an activist against the weaponization of space.
www.youtube.com/watch
Cuz Im confused, some say there IS no extraterrestrials (the officials) ALOT claim they KNOW, and some say its an agenda to release and disclosure right now - either part of a NASTY plan OR a GOOD plan. Anyone care to elaborate, SERIOUSLY? Not namecalling with "blabbers" and other negative personal attacks... just tell me your view.
(( I have a right though to "defend" AND express my emotions, quit jumping around telling me how to behave for F:s sake! If Im irritated I dont have to ask for permission about THAT too, get over YOUR self everyone whos commented about that. Im NOT angry IRL, just the tone of voice in here, tired of lyaing down exposing my throat to the dawgs. It doesnt mean Im a dramaqueen, its all in ur head. ; )) Most of us are judged on what we APPEAR to be - which seldom is WHO WE *ARE*. Like you said; its the internet, you cant hear my tone, see my face and bodylanguage... you simply judge based on your OWN settings.
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:21 AMTeketa - many of those that I do know, doesnt have speakers on their work-computor, and cant even see video format, only written text. Hence the TWO alternatives - its just to scroll down and simply watch the video, its the same material. Scrolling doesnt take THAT long. Mostly luxuryproblems, but I get the message as I said..................... I will try to please everyone.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:17 AM>Tron-ee *lol* and YOURE the right person to talk about LONG text??
Its my text, not someone else's and unless I specifically copyright or left it, it is in the public domain, granted.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:08 PMAnd what she posted was a free transcript from the Show that CNN posted for Free themselves into the Public Domain... Once Again Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 107... She is well with-in her Legal Right... IF she were in the US... Which She is not... Sweden Has yet to pass laws that would Even come close to making what she posted CopyRight Infringement... Hence the Big Deal with the Bit Torrent Site Pirate Bay....
linuxreviews.org/news/2005...o_sweeden/
www.wired.com/science/dis...006/03/70358
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 11:50 AM"1) cross posting of other people's work is considered rude, and is often in violation of posted copyrights,"
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107.... 'fair use'....criticism, comment, news, teaching, scholarship and research...'fair use' provisions, may not be distributed further except for 'fair use', non-profit, and educational purposes...and may be used without permission of the copyright owners... -
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 11:55 AMTITLE 17, CHAPTER 1 § 107
§ 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above
www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html
www.copyright.gov/title17/9...1.html#107
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 11:38 AMI have been talking Exactly About this for some time... And Why I keep repeating... DO NOT FEAR... No Nuclear War will happen... No Physical Polar Shift Will happen... The World is not Ending... The Golden Age is Beginning... -
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Thu, July 24, 2008 - 11:41 AMThis stuff has been in the Disclosure Project DVD for some time as well... Plus 2 National Press Conferences... -
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 5:08 PMWell, honestly, if it comes from CNN, how can you trust it anyway. There is always some reason to try to keep people in fear. It is interesting the kinds of things that are being presented now days. I especially find it interesting that Friday nights now seem to be Larry King's regular UFO night. :) -
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 5:23 PM"Well, honestly, if it comes from CNN, how can you trust it anyway. There is always some reason to try to keep people in fear."
konsider that quite possibly thee changes R koming thru vary us sources, and tho eye am most definetely aware ov reasons knot 2 trust thus far and fear used az a skare taktik, however sum sirius changes R afoot...
just lettuce B kareful az 2 knot kut off hour thumb 2 spite thee hand sew 2 speek......
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:16 AMJahaRa - who fears? I dont fear if some alien tries to disturbe war-objects...............
If they would like to destroy as civilisation, they would have done so long ago. I fear the humans more. AND I would be more shocked if someone claimed it was INTELLIGENT LIFE FORMS on THIS planet............
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 3:12 PMExactly... IF they can Disable our Nukes... And we can't do crap...
And...
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Sat, July 26, 2008 - 8:16 AMIf you don't want to read the entire post, just skim it!!
Thank you Jess for taking the time to type this up.
This Aliens tribe is filled with some very negative naysayers. I don't post here anymore because of a thread I started on a UFO sighting, being bombarded with self important pricks ridiculing people who open their mind to this stuff.
Just because we open our minds to this stuff, doesn't mean we believe every word. We take it with a grain of salt.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 7:59 AMCup,
I am surprised that any bliss bunnies would be interested in this tribe. Do you think that's what we should be? An open mind does not mean we have to agree with everything everyone posts. You cannot take others responses to your posts personally. There are trigger words for everyone, and everyone has their own trigger words. One of mine is the word christiran, since I recognize it I usually catch when I am going off on a tangent based on my programming of that word, but I don't expect everyone else to be that cognizant of their triggers, it is an unreasonable expectation. So the trick is to say what you feel guided, post what you want and answer what you want, ignore the stuff that disturbs you or engage with it, that is everyone's choice. -
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 8:00 AMP.S. Cup, it is good practice to be considerate, there are ways of expressing disagreement without being insulting. Any one who can't do that doesn't deserve any attention in my opinion.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 9:32 AMpp:*You cannot take others responses to your posts personally.*
un, July 27, 2008 - 7:59 AM
EXACTLY!! i thought i said that...
it's tough enough to trace a post back to another post
that is why i take the time, but nobody cares
AND LOTS OF TIMES BACK TO ANOTHER THREAD
that was never stated
be clear? sue me
be clean is much more important
responding:
i find myself in same place cuz the 'idiot' was not clear
i have been called worse...
gee, pretty soon cnn may tell about the fema plastic coffins...
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 7:54 AMManj. It would be a nice thought to think that the nuclear war heads could be diabled so easily. They are not protecting anyone.
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Re: CNN - Did government cover up UFOs?
Sun, July 27, 2008 - 7:53 AMYes, Sunnily, I feel the same way, but the point is most people beleive our government is supposed to protect us and if CNN tells people that ufos are destroying government equipemnt the intention is to put as many people in fear as possible. Think about that. Whether it's true or not, it is presented in a way to evoke the most fear possible.
Now you and I, and most on this forum are of a different mind, but we are not the sheep that article is aimed at.
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