i giv e up

topic posted Sat, May 10, 2008 - 8:59 PM by  solarcharlie
with the price of diesel over 4.00. i gave in, i traded for a gas powered pickup. and filled up for 3.35. i feel like i have given up a piece of my soul.

sorry , world
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solarcharlie
Arizona
  • Re: i giv e up

    Sun, May 11, 2008 - 4:16 AM
    You may find that the change in fuel economy from diesel to gasoline more than makes up the difference. Gasoline contains much less energy per gallon than diesel.

    ...oh, and CNG contains much less than gasoline.
    • gas vs diesel

      Sun, May 11, 2008 - 6:27 AM
      ''You may find that the change in fuel economy from diesel to gasoline more than makes up the difference. Gasoline contains much less energy per gallon than diesel''

      folks had always told of getting 20 mpg with a 3/4 ton diesel. i got my normal 15. i did not see the supposed 30% BETTER fuel economy. . maybe my driving with several hundred pounds of batteries and solar panels. ie. always loaded.


      what is done is done, now to see how it performs.

      oh , and i get to rebuild and hopefully improve the rack system for the solar panels. mixed blessing. lol. 4 hours to tear apart. 16 to rebuild.
      • Re: gas vs diesel

        Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:22 AM
        I have a Dodge ram 2500 diesel with a 3.55 ratio and I have slowed down my driving. Going from 70 to 55 made a big difference. I now get 20-22 mpg regularly more if I only go 50. At least now I get to see more out the window instead of just zipping by.
        • Re: gas vs diesel

          Sun, May 11, 2008 - 4:48 PM
          ''3.55 ratio and ''

          wow, did not know the dodges were that geared towards highway.

          stock on my truck was 3.73. when i lost the rear end.. i changed out to 4.10 for better pulling. another factor in the 12-15 mpg i was getting.

          todays torque converters squeeze every ounce of fuel.
          • Re: gas vs diesel

            Sun, May 11, 2008 - 5:31 PM
            My experience is that automatics suck about 2 mpg off the top. My understanding is that automatics work better at high engine rpm which provides better hydraulic pressure, but the best mileage is at lower rpm where you rely on engine torque. With a manual transmission, I consistently get 2 mpg better than anyone I know with an auto in the same truck.
        • Re: gas vs diesel

          Fri, May 23, 2008 - 8:12 AM
          awesome observation...
          most regular people don't get this point...
          it is beyond their conceptualization
          that if
          you drive around 50mph
          you get the best performance in gas milage
          driving any faster than 55 wastes fuel
          my mom taught me that twenty years ago
          i still like to drive 80
          • Re: gas vs diesel

            Sun, May 25, 2008 - 6:59 PM
            Cue the Sammy Hagar music.... :-)

            Seriously, though, this is a very badly overlooked and/or misunderstood point. In a discussion elsewhere someone tried to point out that it equals out because your engine runs longer; he had completely missed the point that MPG (and its metric counterparts) lack any reference to time at all. More MPG is more MPG, period.

            A few years back, before all of the massive shift in gas prices, I took a trip across New York State in a car that was not particularly fuel efficient. It was rated 22/32 MPG (a 1998 Subaru Impreza waggon), and my typical commuting fuel economy was actually only 18 MPG. Driving it across the state on either US Route 20 or NY Route 5, however, it got 34 MPG. Most of this travel was at less than 55 MPH.

            I would also point out that these back highways can be far more interesting places to drive than the Interstates. By all means, use the Interstate if you are in a hurry, but if not, take your time and enjoy the trip.
  • Is bio-diesel worth the converting?

    Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:18 AM
    I always associated diesel with dirty air; soot and sulfur stink from my old VolksWagen Rabbit with its carrot-munching 41 MPG! I sold it for only $700 over a decade ago, when gas was $1.25/gallon and the Smog Cops were cracking down on diesels in the New Jersey emissions con game. But I saw somebody who claims to have converted one to Bio-diesel and uses the fry oil from his Chinese restaurant to fuel it. Smells like Egg Rolls and Fried Rice but how long will that 4-cylinder motor last on a diet like that? Rebuild every 30,000 miles? Like a Rolls-Rice? Er, I meant, like a Rolls-Royce. (And that's Ming's joke, not mine BTW).
    I'd be up for getting an electric car if I could just stay off the grid as much as possible. I'll let anybody with an electric car recharge off my windmill/solar genset when they're in my neighborhood, if they'd do the same when i'm in theirs? Anybody else up for starting a Coupe Co-op?
    • Re: Is bio-diesel worth the converting?

      Tue, May 13, 2008 - 10:33 PM

      In the event you are not aware, Rudolf Diesel designed his engine, in 1893 or thereabouts, to run on vegetable oil. Tried coal dust first, but peanut oil worked best.

      I've driven many diesel Rabbits, and there is no "conversion" required to run them beautifully on biodiesel, except it's a good idea to change some of the fuel lines.

      Maybe you're talking about waste vegetable oil, which is equally fine for these VW diesels. Rebuild every 30,000 miles? I suggest you do some research, as vegetable oil is easier on these engines than "diesel" fuel.

      www.frybrid.com/

      I sold a diesel Rabbit, probably just like your's, less than a year ago, for $3000.

      Anyway, as for the getting rid of a diesel vehicle because of the price at the pump, I say that's a very bad idea. You can make your own biodiesel for about $1.50 per gallon or less. And the earth likes you better too.
  • astm bio

    Wed, May 14, 2008 - 6:01 AM
    not everyone can or wants to make their own. i was buying commercial bio. in all fairness to my old truck. the fuel prices were just a partial excuse for the age old, '' i want a new truck'' justification.

    my 6.5 was also , underpowered , coupled with a mysterious tendency to run very hot. many hills i climbed at 10 mph, with the temperature over 230.

    i loved it as a truck, just not as a hauler. and as i am a full time rv'r. my home goes with me [26 foot travel trailer] . i was finding i moved less and less , due to the 'issues' i had with tthe truck

    murphys law. three days after i bought this new truck. i saw a diesel i could have afforded.

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