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I'm building LED panels for all sorts of indoor lighting applications and the newer have gotten around the glare and contrast problems of earlier ones. For now tho if you want goof LED lighting you have to build your own for the most part..
One of the nice things about the LED is that it takes so little power you can go solar or turbine very easily.
One of the nice things about the LED is that it takes so little power you can go solar or turbine very easily.
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 12:50 PMThey are. I've been in plenty of large aircraft hangars and a lot of them are lit by huge LED clusters. The things are the bomb! -
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 6:00 PMI've seen ads for solar-powered garden lights that use LEDs. They charge a battery during the day, and then illuminate the garden path at night. I've never actually used one. But I think that they would make great reading lights inside a tent on a camping trip, if you could hang them in the right places. -
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 6:44 PMThose solar powered garden lamps are terrible. They use very cheap LEDs and even cheaper solar cells. So you don't have good lighting. And they proliferate heavy metals in the environment in the batteries.
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Thu, October 8, 2009 - 9:27 PMhere's a link to a somewhat stylishly written article from the Guardian that eventually delves into the specifics of current LED tech available. still pricey, but hey, so were transistor radios when THEY first came out. (is anyone else around here old enough to remember the advent of transistor radios?) I must say the future is looking brighter as tech keeps accelerating... now if we could just figure out a nifty way to off-cycle those nasty heavy metals into something actually useful.
www.guardian.co.uk/environm...ing-bills
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 3:43 AMI have started seeing good LED lights showing up in home improvement stores. As I type this, my desk is illuminated by a Utilitech LED light that was purchased from Lowe's. It has nine lenses, each with three warm white chips in it, totalling 27 LEDs (though on quick glance, it appears to be nine). It uses 2.3W, and casts a pretty pleasant colour (though it is very slightly greenish). It takes a 12VDC input.
Unfortunately, this exact model was discontinued last month, but I have noticed that they are bringing in newer model bar and puck lights that also look quite nice. Some take an external 12V supply, others do their power conversion on board.
Additionally, I noticed that Home Depot is carrying LED replacements for PAR bulbs . . . just the ticket if you have track or recessed lighting anywhere. They're a bit spendy, though, and can only run on 120VAC.
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 6:36 AMRight now Luxeon is the number one company. They have a line of LEDs that produce the full spectrum of light. they also have colored LEDs. And to save you the hassle of building a power supply they have what they call "Puck driver" power supplies. You can get in the door pretty cheaply. The pucks are less than $20 and some can drive as many as twelve 3 watt super power LEDs which coast about $7.00 each.
Given that your energy consumption will drop dramatically and the things are designed for years and years of operation that is not pricey or difficult.
I've seen what they call UFO LED modules that are meant for growing plants selling for almost a Grand each. They are trash compared to the Luxeon LEDs.
LEDs are still the subject of an incredible amount of misinformation given that there is no easy way to convert the light output data from an LED to that of an incandescent. Many makers fudge their numbers by how they focus the light output. They make a more tightly focused lens and say that their LEDs are super bright but they are not putting out any more light energy than a less expensive wide angle lens LED. Additionally the power consumption can vary from one identical LED to another unless the manufacturing is done really well. That makes powering them dicey because when you hook up several parallel runs of LEDs in series to get lots of light the odd ball can screw up the power consumption and forward voltage of any given string even leading to runaway power demand. . Forward voltage drop being the critical factor in resistor selection miliamp out put for the power supply as well ad peak voltage times SQRT2.
In the world of LEDs you stick with tip of the line manufacturers or you are playing games of chance.
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:29 AMYou will see consistency improve as the manufacturing matures. The semiconductor industry is very good at exact reproduction when the technology is mature. There are also better ways to go for current limiting and intensity control than simple resistors. But none of the simple or cheap. Resistors are some pretty simple and cheap devices. -
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 5:23 PMI work at a warehousing company and we tried LED lights a few years ago. In our warehouses the ceilings are around 30'-35' high and we need to have good light to make things safe for all the workers and forklift drivers. At the time, we decided against it for safety and liability reasons. Has there been any significant changes that would make them powerful enough for warehouse environments? If so, who makes them? -
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 9:27 PMThe LED headlamps have become practically indispensable for camping these days. Makes reading and writing under the stars or in the tent so much easier. Not to mention those midnight jaunts to the outhouse. -
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Fri, October 9, 2009 - 11:28 PMI've been experimenting with lighting dance performances with 4 LED par cans at 12W each and DMX controlled to blend each light to any colour. I also have some 5W standard E27 base bulbs. They also shift through 16 colours and quasi-white. I have been having alot of fun and only using less than 100W. On stage they are another tool in conjunction with some glowing tungsten to spread even and warm light everywhere.
This place has a good selection of LED lighting in America www.ledlighting1.com/
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Re: LEDs are the way to go.
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 8:30 AMYes Badfish there have been enormous improvements. Paul has hit the nail spot on. LEDs are the way to go.
Take your bosses on over to the Luxeon web site and see what they are doing Airports factories and warehouses
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did any one check the medical aspect
Wed, November 18, 2009 - 5:37 PMThe led is great but!
i feel like it is the same rush people had for the florescent light, after using them they found out it makes headache.
Have you tried to work with this light?
I am traveling in Asia it is very common I can tell you it is not comfortable.
I had an experience trying to sleep in a train with led light and it was impossible like any technology it is good but not for all the uses -
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Re: did any one check the medical aspect
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 3:16 AMSo . . . it was a light that you could not turn off?
I use LED nightlights. I have no problems with them. I also use an LED desk light, as mentioned before. I do, however, blend the light in my workroom with light from a fluorescent daylight tube reflected off of the ceiling. -
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Re: did any one check the medical aspect
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 10:35 AMI use a couple good grow lights over my work area,....
there supposed to be good spectrum sun replication,
and there warm,i get good light and i don't heat that
room.The lead's i do use are on my bikes,they work
great,..i really like the effect to scale,good output,...
as i accumulate parts for electric assist trike build,
these will be incorporated.One light i found a led
with a pulse generator(made in Canada) has served about
10 years on one of my bikes,... all i do is clean and wax it.
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Re: did any one check the medical aspect
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 2:07 PMI have a daylight LED 7w bulb in a swag lamp aiming down onto my kitchen table. This is where I do a lot of reading and sitting around with friends. Apart from being very directional, the light is smooth and does not pulse. It is very pleasant to work (or eat) under.
I also have a 7w soft white LED bulb in a lamp with a shade in another room. I think the amount of light is equivalent to about a 30 watt incandescent, and spreads light in all directions just like a regular bulb. Both of these bulbs are made by Phillips and come with standard E27 screw in bases.
I am very sensitive to light quality and I can not work or read under a compact fluorescent bulb. I will be gradually replacing most of my lights with LED.... as I can afford to (the 7 w bulbs are presently $30 each in the local Home Hardware store. -
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Re: did any one check the medical aspect
Fri, November 20, 2009 - 10:31 AMHas anyone ordered any of the LED lights from deals extreme?
www.dealextreme.com/search.dx/search.led
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