Play parties

topic posted Wed, December 28, 2005 - 9:14 PM by  Leggy
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I'm a bit of an exhibitionist and a voyeur, so I find going to play parties with my partner can be a lot of fun; that is unless some yahoo asks to join in or take a turn later. If someone takes my polite decline in a positive manner, everything is fine. However, a lot of the time people seem to get pissed off and can be very disrespectful of me for setting my boundaries. I've even had people say something to the effect of "If you are not going to play with others, WHY are you HERE?!?!" Excuse me? How dare I want to be with only one! I just don't get it. Even if I was poly, I might be on a special date night and only desire to play with my date. But for some reason, "monogamous" is a dirty word in the play party scene. Anyone else deal with this and how do you? I just smile and keep saying "no, thank you".
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Leggy
SF Bay Area
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  • Re: Play parties

    Wed, December 28, 2005 - 11:52 PM
    Have been very fortunate not to experience the scene you describe.
    Certainly doesn't show their best colors, nor entices to share more than a glare with that kind of behavior.

    Play parties should be a place where one is comfortable to do whatever turns _you_ on, while respecting others boundaries.

    I've found that Kinky Salon is a great space to find the positive experience you seek. It's my favorite place to take first timers because of it's mix between folks who are 'playing' and folks who are actually engaged with each other.

    Have slowed my attendance at play parties quite a bit, so I'm not really in the 'scene' to refer you to others. But I'm betting KS is a good start.


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      Re: Play parties

      Tue, January 3, 2006 - 11:39 PM
      Leggy,

      What stands out to me is that even if you were poly, you still have the option to turn down someone's invitation. Maybe you've made plans with other friends and don't want more company, or maybe as the evening progressed you just aren't in the mood. The fact that the person didn't accept your decline gracefully reveals that he/she has little self confidence and doesn't handle rejection very well.

      None of us thrives on rejection, but it's part of relationships. None of us is attractive to everyone. I've been turned down by beautiful women, and likewise have turned down women for whom most men would die.

      I wonder if some people in the poly circles use the lifestyle as a vehicle to try to sidestep the sting of rejection? "You aren't cool if you aren't amenable." Logic would suggest that people who practice a somewhat unorthodox lifestyle would be open and tolerant, but the scenario you described sounds more like the chastising of a right wing conservative.

      As a single man....what I'd like to see is more open and friendly interaction, and more flirting and seduction play....all in the context of this may or may not lead to someone getting laid. Most people find it difficult to take things slowly and build the energy and excitement with wit and innuendo.
      I've had better sex with some women who I've never touched than with women who wanted to rush into sex and then couldn't remain emotionally present.


  • Re: Play parties

    Thu, December 29, 2005 - 12:13 AM
    you are speaking our language.. we attend the Power Exchange and are monogamists.. we tried the swing thing years ago and found it unpleasent.. We do enjoy the public sexual play and some BD/SM, would love to find comfortable space for such..
  • Re: Play parties

    Thu, December 29, 2005 - 10:39 AM
    hey leggy :)

    it's precisely because of the fear of people seeing you play with your partner and taking that as an "open" sign that whenever we go to "play parties", jay and i pretty much avoid any open sexual activity and just watch others and sneak off somewhere private if we want to enjoy eachother.

    there are a lot of grey areas and fine lines with these things; i think it people just remember to have respect for everyone and verbally communicate "yes" and "no" and accept those answers, then it's all really fun.
  • Re: Play parties

    Mon, May 1, 2006 - 10:42 AM
    I have often gone to Queen of Heaven (and Black Sheets--but that one ended unfortunately) and played with just one person, with no bother from anyone else. If I am standing alone for awhile, someone might approach and ask, but have only experienced respectful offers. But--this party is a members only party, so you would have to find someone who goes and have them take you in as a guest for the first time.
  • Re: Play parties

    Wed, August 2, 2006 - 11:07 AM
    I've gotten the "why are you here" thing before also and I always find it slightly infuriating. Many of my friends are poly and kinky so in order for me to socialize I inevitably end up at parties and gatherings where I am the only monogamous and single person there. Usually I smile and tell them "I'm here to ignore assholes like you". Kinky monogamist is just as valid of a choice as kinky poly is. Its just less common in the Bay Area.
    • Re: Play parties

      Wed, August 2, 2006 - 6:32 PM
      "Kinky monogamist is just as valid of a choice as kinky poly is. Its just less common in the Bay Area."

      The less common part appears to be changing slowly. More and more of the people I talk to are getting feed-up with the whole poly thing.
      • Re: Play parties

        Wed, August 2, 2006 - 6:40 PM
        Perhaps ... for the sake of my love life I hope so lol
        I love the fact that people have the ability to make choices about their needs.
        I respect poly friends MUCH more than those who claim monogamy and cheat.
        For me, I'm not looking to change poly people at all, I'd just like for them to stop attempting to change me :)
        • Re: Play parties

          Thu, August 3, 2006 - 6:38 PM
          It's that poly being used as another way to cheat (yes, one can cheat in a poly relationship as well) that is getting people feed-up with poly. Personally I have no problem with poly so long as everything is above-board, respectful and honest.

          Cheater's suck whether or not they are monogamist or poly.
          • Re: Play parties

            Thu, August 3, 2006 - 7:31 PM
            People can cheat on any relationship. My general definition of cheating is simple. If you feel like you would have to lie to your partner about it because they wouldn't approve, then its cheating. For some people that means sex, for others it means a kiss, going out to lunch, whatever. Its the relationship that defines its own limits.
            For me, I prefer my sexuality to revolve around one, usually Dominant, male :)
  • Re: Play parties

    Mon, February 19, 2007 - 8:19 PM
    Ugh, I feel you pain. I'm the same way, and that is very, very crude behaviour. I don't understand why people can't understand the term "monogamous" sometimes.
  • Re: Play parties

    Wed, February 21, 2007 - 8:54 PM

    > I've even had people say something to the effect of "If you are not going to play with others, WHY are you HERE?!?!"

    Gah.

    Sounds like a wonderful person to have the monitor(s) know about...

    Or, you could just smile thoughtfully and say, "Gee, maybe I /should/ play with someone else... not YOU, of course, I don't Do dick-brains..."


    - Steve
    • Re: Play parties

      Wed, March 7, 2007 - 2:49 PM
      Thinking the same thing. If this scenario happens again, let the host of the play party know. It's a rare play party host that won't have a talk with the guy/girl who is being an ass like that. And if the host doesn't....you know what party to not recommend to others.
      • Re: Play parties

        Thu, June 12, 2008 - 7:51 PM
        I used to be poly, but now I'm feeling entirely burned out. I'm particularly bored with all of the arrangements and regulations required. I'm at the point where I feel somewhat wounded from the whole thing and like I need to do a lot of soul retrieval/ deep healing.
        Now, I still feel inclined to go to play parties from a social standpoint, but I have no intention of playing. I've been intimidated of going to some that are definitely "Participate or leave" kind of parties....
        Now I'm actually starting to feel a little bit of guilt over not participating, although I really don't want to. The last time I played with a girlfriend just to participate, it ended up in an STD scare, so I'm even more unwilling to go there now.
        Is there a way to be play party without playing? I just want to dress up and dance!
        • Re: Play parties

          Fri, June 13, 2008 - 1:30 PM
          This is an old thread but almost every venue, even PE states that "no" means that and it is against the rules to keep asking. If someone pulls that crap, inform a DM. That sort of crap is wrong and no host wants idiots who give their guests crap.

          Normally, the "big kids" rarely ask anyone else to play, instead waiting to BE asked, the people in the middle have manners, and it is either someone new who hasn't yet learned better and won't until someone says something and "educates" them or the person doing it is an idiot. Either way, saying something helps everyone out, some to learn and others out the door, so in the end it makes it better for all of us.

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