Do U think they will learn their lesson?

topic posted Sat, October 24, 2009 - 7:07 AM by  ALLAH God of...
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All those banks and investment firms and insurance companies.
All the one who took tarp and Bail out money
In this thread: tribes.tribe.net/america/t...5aef226629
I articulate the law on how the Fed can interfere with Exec Compensation.
And now the Fed is doing exactly that.

I have frequently observed that these companies and their Execs made the willful choice of getting into bed with the Fed and deserve what they get: An insane business partner whose motivations are sure to be at odds with the core business in question.

I wonder if now after all this after being made into the bad guy demonized by the president and his cronies and then to add injury to insult they are interfering with compensation in a bog way. I wonder if they have learned that (A) supporting this character in his campaign was a terrible mistake and (B) never to crawl into bed with the government and take their money again?
I wonder.

Do you think maybe the Chamber of Commerce is learning a lesson? They supported this president when he was a candidate, then they supported his squanderlust bill and again his climate change initiative but when they saw that his initiatives would absolutely destroy business in American they criticized his global warming initiates and h now they are demonized and despised.
Do you think maybe they have learned a lesson?

It seems that no matter how much support you have given this character in the past that is TODAY you are not cheering and applauding this infantile worthless welfare bastard, that he will turn on you and make you out to be a demon, a racist, an anti American terror peddling monster.

That's this one trick pony's shtick. Agree with me or I'll demonize and discredit you.







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  • Re: Do U think they will learn their lesson?

    Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:07 AM

    everyone paid back the money except BofA, Citi and Wells Fargo. JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs are doing fine.

    the Democrats as usual are grandstanding. the limits on executive pay are most likely unconstitutional. just more wasted legislation intended to play on class hatred.
    • Re: Do U think they will learn their lesson?

      Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:28 AM
      **********the Democrats as usual are grandstanding. the limits on executive pay are most likely unconstitutional. just more wasted legislation intended to play on class hatred.*************

      Where there is a written agreement between the companies and the Fed and the Fed is not reaching beyond the agreement the Constitution is not likely implicated.

      As it regards other companies which are publicly traded I submit that you need to read the commerce clause information on the Cornell law website
      www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/s...ndex.html
      paying especial attention to Wickard v Filburn
      supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/h..._ZS.html

      I rather suspect that if the Fed chose to do so they could bring back that Wickard era level of intrusive reaching into private sector and quite literally use the commerce clause to regulate all publicly traded companies. Hell Arthur, I suspect that the Fed can regulate all salaries period.

      The Commerce Clause is the single most powerful tool the Fed has to tell you what to do, all day, every day.
      If you are engaged in any activity that in any way uses or bears on anything at all that is traded in interstate commerce the Fed can reach into your bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, cellar, your back yard, and your garden: and the Fed can regulate it.
      I fear that one clause was poorly written by the Framers giving entirely too much power to the fed.

      About the only place that seems immune from commerce clause interference are the thoughts in your mind and I am sure that some Democrat is trying to figure a way to regulate them under the commerce clause too. After all the things you can think are influences by and usually are a direct result of the things you learned and those things were at some time part of commerce: Books, Internet communications, education in schools - all of it might be reachable VIA the commerce clause.

      It's always the Democrats who are using the commerce clause to infringe your privacy.

      Never vote for fucking Democrat.
      They are the most loathsome poisonous monsters anywhere.




      • Re: Do U think they will learn their lesson?

        Sat, October 24, 2009 - 4:45 PM

        thanks for the correction.

        ultimately, BofA, GM, AIG and Citi benefited from cozy collusion with the Fed. now they are paying the price.

        and ultimately, if the Dems are successful in clamping down on bonuses the result will be that the brains from these companies are going to haul ass. which means they will be left with deadwood. then the companies will fail as a result and the Fed will never see their loans again.

        fuck it.
        • Re: Do U think they will learn their lesson?

          Sat, October 24, 2009 - 6:19 PM
          ********and ultimately, if the Dems are successful in clamping down on bonuses the result will be that the brains from these companies are going to haul ass. which means they will be left with deadwood. then the companies will fail as a result and the Fed will never see their loans again.**************


          Maybe. Remember they have to have somewhere to go.
          In the mean time it i my hope that the business community gets a freaking clue and never gives this fool another donation.

          They made their own bed. They supported this guy and now he's engaged in full on class warfare.

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