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Pie Crust:
Do a google search and you will find even venerable persons such as Alton Brown advocating the use of butter.
It seems that all the nut jobs out there on the internet-S have copied each other and not a fooking one knows what they are talking about.
BUTTER CONTAINS WATER~!!!!!
Well reduced Lard or Crisco do not.
I know the great chef Brown says to freeze the butter a bit to immobilize the water: BULLSHIT~!!!
Alton Brown is full of shit~!!!
Do not - EVER - use butter in a pie crust. It is the poison of pie crusts it is the reason your pies all suck.
Cut Crisco or Lard into the flour ever so delicately using teo table knives or a pastry knife That's one of those things that unless you know what it is you will never guess it's p[urpose. It's got a handle and from each end of the handle run looped wires that form a sort of bail all in one place. You jam that into the pastry over and over to cut the lard or crisco into the flour.
DO NOT try to get a homogeneous mix. Is is supposed to be lumpy and have an unfinished look to it. It's supposed to fall apart as you work it into a crust shape. These are ATTRIBUTES~!!! They are the reason the crust comes out all flaky and delicate.
Do a google search and you will find even venerable persons such as Alton Brown advocating the use of butter.
It seems that all the nut jobs out there on the internet-S have copied each other and not a fooking one knows what they are talking about.
BUTTER CONTAINS WATER~!!!!!
Well reduced Lard or Crisco do not.
I know the great chef Brown says to freeze the butter a bit to immobilize the water: BULLSHIT~!!!
Alton Brown is full of shit~!!!
Do not - EVER - use butter in a pie crust. It is the poison of pie crusts it is the reason your pies all suck.
Cut Crisco or Lard into the flour ever so delicately using teo table knives or a pastry knife That's one of those things that unless you know what it is you will never guess it's p[urpose. It's got a handle and from each end of the handle run looped wires that form a sort of bail all in one place. You jam that into the pastry over and over to cut the lard or crisco into the flour.
DO NOT try to get a homogeneous mix. Is is supposed to be lumpy and have an unfinished look to it. It's supposed to fall apart as you work it into a crust shape. These are ATTRIBUTES~!!! They are the reason the crust comes out all flaky and delicate.
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Re: maddening situation
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 9:14 AMAm I the only person outraged by this terrible conspiracy of mis information?
As an aside - or maybe more to the point - these things can be so confusing:
When making a flakey pie crust you do need to add water (and salt). The issue is WHEN that water is to be introduced .
After a few minutes of slicing the crisco or lard into the flour you find you pretty much done the lumpy bits seem about the sized of green peas and maybe larger .
This is the time to introduce ICE COLD water. I mean really cold. Water you p poured into crushed ice is about right
You add it in little bits as you use the knives to get it through the dough.
RESIST THE URGE TO TOUCH THE DOUGH WITH YOUR HANDS~!!!!!!!!
Don't do it. Don't even think about it. Don't do it. The mere touch will destroy your crust
Add the water a little at a time and slice it in with the knives. Don't get all smarty pants and turn the blades sideways.
Then when you think you are done set the dough aside for a few minutes to hydrate.
Use that time to break out some more flour and a rolling pin and clear your work area.
When rolling out the dough don't try to get it perfect - - or free of holes - - you only want to roll the dough just enough to get it the size and thickness for the pie crust. Use lots of flour to prevent sticking and don't worry about holed and cracks in the dough. The goal is to minimize any working of the dough. It's critical that you not work the dough because you have water in it and the water is going to react with the gluten and cause the dough to become something that is not-flaky.
You can fix cracks and holes and defects in the crust AFTER you have placed the dough in the pie plate on top of the Chicken pot pie or where ever it's final destination is to be.
Use the scraps to fix holes etc. Just lay them on and press ever so slightly - and I mean slightly.
That is how to manage the dough for a flaky crust
Try it. I will work for you every single time.
I promise.
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Re: maddening situation
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 1:16 PM>> Am I the only person outraged by this terrible conspiracy of mis information? <<
I don't know enough about it to be outraged. but thanks for the information. I actually learned something. might be a tribe first.
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Re: maddening situation
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 2:36 PMBan dihydrogen monoxide! -
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Re: maddening situation
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 6:11 PMH2O is a lethal poison.
I hear people die from it.
There's even people who earn their livings watching and protecting people from it.
They are called "Life Guards" Because they guard your life from the dreaded stuff.
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Re: maddening situation
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 6:12 PMActually Frozen - all kidding aside: Google "water intoxication"
It's really quite surprising.
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