A lousy 2 points in IN and she thought it was going to be a landslide HA HA HA HA HA
I ain't no fan of the America hating, Marxist, social commie Obamanator but I do want to see her cry.
I rather suspect she's just bleeding him down as well as she can and make him as unelectable as possible so she can have a good shot in 2012.
this is sooooo much fun. As an aside I really don't think Obama can take it in the general run off.
I ain't no fan of the America hating, Marxist, social commie Obamanator but I do want to see her cry.
I rather suspect she's just bleeding him down as well as she can and make him as unelectable as possible so she can have a good shot in 2012.
this is sooooo much fun. As an aside I really don't think Obama can take it in the general run off.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 4:27 PMRight now if this was November 4th -- I be voting for Obama because he is honest about the gas tax holiday being a gimmick.
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Wed, May 7, 2008 - 5:13 PMIt is a gimmick. The USA is sitting on one lousy oil reserve that are 8 times greater than Saudi Arabia ever had.
Another monster was discovered in Montanna and the Dakotas just a few days ago.
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 10:04 AMthanks, for saying that, but why not bleed the mid dry and then sit on top
it's good to be the king
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 11:53 AMAre u speaking of coal? We are the Saudi's of coal...
I maintain tangential ties to people in Aramco and COP, I worked for Phillips back in the 90's...could you link up these monsters, please.
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Not just coal.
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 12:17 PM
The US has several times the oil the Arabs ever had.
tinyurl.com/6m5g4r New reserves found under the Dakotas that dwarfs Saudi Arabia
tinyurl.com/6d3dkp Sakatechewan oil
And lest any one forget:
tinyurl.com/ylyyez more than TRILLION barrels of oil inside the US boundaries right now and that is more than
• 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
* 18-times as much oil as Iraq
* 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
* 22-times as much oil as Iran
* 500-times as much oil as Yemen
The area is the Green River Formation — a barren stretch of land covering portions of Colorado, Utah, and Wyoming. Each acre holds 2 million barrels of oil. That's why the government quietly put restrictive legislation, deeming this Federal land, in 1930, and forbidding anyone from using it. tinyurl.com/5zhdrx -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 9:24 PMSure. But you do understand the concept of 'extractable reserves' versus USGS estimates?
Also, the "sweet" and "sour" issues?
The apparent discretion is that the wildly inflated guesstimates now dwarf the Saudi's (I should say Aramco's) declared resources that they carry on their books. Now you just have to get the damned US stuff out of the ground, and because of the sulfur content spend 10 times more in infrastructure just to sweeten it.
The simple uncontested fact is that there exists no other Ghawar - never was, never will be again...same goes for the entire Persian shield (as in simplicity in refinition)...don't say that tar sands are in the same ballpark as sweet Arabian crude either, cause I won't buy it... -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 7:31 AM***************Sure. But you do understand the concept of 'extractable reserves' versus USGS estimates?
Also, the "sweet" and "sour" issues?*******************
Yes Yes YEs It's all a question of how much technology and effort you have to put into the oil to get it.
It's there. It's just not under hydraulic pressure like it was in the old wooden derrick days nor is it available for brine injection extraction.
For example Ya gotta cook it out of the shale.
Every thing costs a little more.
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 11:43 PM<According to the USGS, the dramatically increased estimate of recoverable oil in the Bakken Formation results from new geological models, advances in drilling and production technologies, and recent oil discoveries.>
So, their 2800% increase in the resource estimation was based on how many *new* drillholes?
Oh, none!
Do you remember a little Calgary-based company that began reporting wildly exciting new resource estimates based on old data because of "new geological models" on their property on Kalimantan? It was BRE-X... -
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Fri, May 9, 2008 - 11:58 PMDo you think the USGS may be using these, frankly unsubstantiated, claims to wring some more funding out of the Dept. of the Interior?
I am not against exploration - if they ever try to drill my property I'll be pissed (title didn't come with mineral, oil/gas rights), but I support aggresive drilling everywhere else...shit, at these prices even the cruddiest of cruddy Venezuelan Orinoco sour is profitable to extract...why not the marginal US basins that have been traditionally underexplored?
The problems arise from the 'oil is oil' mindset, and also thinking that the next one will be "another Ghawar". Ain't gonna happen... -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 7:36 AMThere is so very much oil that hasn't been tapped all over the planet. The left sets up a caterwailing every time some one wants to tap it. Off shore inland it matters not if the oil well wasn't there as of long ago there ain't no way you are getting one there today.
The reserves of oil are not a geographic esclusivity of the Arabian nations. That is a populist myth that sprung up around the mere fact of si much drilling taking place there.
Remember - - - in the old days oil drilling was a filthy messy destructive business. In Turkmenistan is still is - you should see the 6" of thick greazy glop that covers the capitol's shoreline at the foot of the abandoned oil wells just off shore. When oil was first being drilled in the arabian deserts no one cared how much a mess one made because it was all just fucking desert anyway.
Today all the left can see are the filthy methods of 50 years ago.
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