And he is lying about me now. I can only guess why.
In this post (uspolitics.tribe.net/thread/...265b73d1 ) Nolen said:
"Translation, I told Cliff to stop flooding the board and told him that pictures which imply that children are performing fellatio on adults are unacceptable. For the record, I did threaten him with expulsion for the later."


The lying sack of dog shit never said any thing of the sort to me.

If he had even the smallest amount of respect for others (that is his problem ) he’d have told me why it bothered him and asked me to remove it. And I might have. Instead his first words were like some arrogant jackbooted asshole nazi ORDERING me to obey.

You have seen the picture: It is of President PorklPussy in a crowd grinning from ear to ear. The sick twisted pervert that is Nolen invented a subtext for the picture and imposed it onto me.


He issues orders to people as if they were subordinate non equals.
He and I have never had any dialog about the subject matter of any images I posted. Making the claim we have is a lie and is typical of the left.

Here is the Exact language that passed between us:


(first blood) Nolen:
"This is a formal warning. This is unacceptable. "
he included a link to a picture I posted that came from the AP of PorkPussy in a crowd grinning from ear to ear. You’ve seen it. Lots of people have read into it whatever was in their heads. I didn’t lead them by the nose – they went all of their own.

OK Mister Jackboots himself has a sharp stick up his ass but hasn't the common decency to address me as a person.

To which I responded:
"I am confused. What is so unacceptable? "

And to which he said:
"I'm not going to play games with you on this Cliff. Tone this shit down or leave."

And then I responded:
"I fail to understand you.
Your tough talking tone is telling me that you think I’m trying to run some kind of game on you.

Tone it down or leave? Tone what down? Pictures taken by AP?
Where is your threshold? Is a political character suddenly off limits?

One wonders where you have been for the last 8 years.
Check out this entirely acceptable level of “free expression”: "

And I included a long list of posts of pictures in the Politics tribe picture album all of which were far more vulgar and obscene where people from the left were accusing people from the right of pedophilia - a number of them were personal attacks against me.

And guess what mister JackBoots had to say to that?
He said:
"You know Cliff, I have lots of conservative friends. None of them treats me like I'm an idiot. My respect for you is down the toilet. Tell you what, lets keep all future conversations on tribe business. I don't want to hear from you other than that. Make no mistake, if you continue your recent behavior, you will be booted. "

And that was the last I heard from mister Third Reich Nolen

And now he's lying about the dialogs we had.
I can only guess why. The miserable little shit is aware that he's overstepped his bounds and seeks to lay it off on others. Fucking god dammed worthless coward - Yup Nolen you are dog shit in a Nazi uniform .

At first I wondered if Nolen was simply too weak to tolerate the hue and cry from the left whenever they start their incessant complaining. I assumed that he just gave in to them.
I was mistaken.

I think that Nolen truly believes he is being fair. That he has an idea in his head about how the Politics tribe should be and he's trying to make that image in his head into reality.

To his credit (and in all fairness) it should be noted that he is as big an asshole with persons from the left as he is to those from the right. The problem is, he is inconsistent and capricious and his tone is that of an arrogant jackbooted bully who thinks he is your superior.


He is conducting like a tough guy bully boy who lays about with a big stick rather than addressing people as equals regarding the disagreements he has with them and whatever it is that they are doing that bothers him.

And that's the core of it. It's all about what bothers him. Period.

One person called it more accurately saying that Nolen's moderator style is that he treats the tribe as his private living room and he is enforcing whatever version of politeness is on his mind at the moment. This results in a level of caprice that is un-manageable.

I watched Nolen invent intent then apply that “intent” to a triber and then Nolen fabricated a history and invented facts all of which he applied to that triber holding him accountable to it when disciplining him.

Yah Nolen made things up sua sponte and then held a guy accountable for Nolen’s own falsehoods and fabrication.

This guy Nolen went after is a person about whom it can not be said that he is harsh with people or quick to anger nor that he calls names. Yet Nolen manufactured his own facts and then held the guy to account. When the guy objected and sought to make clear Nolen’s error, Nolen just issued his trademark: “Don’t play games with me~!! My way or the Highway” tough guy routine.

In my experience this conflict with Nolen arose as to the disparity between his treatment of political figures - when he favored them and when he doesn't. I was accused of disparaging a political figure and he told me that I was not allowed to do so. The tone he used was that of a jackbooted tough guy who was issuing orders to a subordinate. His tone and timbre conveyed that my place in his personal Reich was to obey - period. He was not interested in anything else. He dismissed, as beneath him, my attempts to discuss what was bothering him.

Nolen would probably object to my statement "when he favors the politician." Which I'd accept except that I sent him links to dozens of posts where people were using the "pedophile" routine against persons from the right and worse against myself. This elicited no response from Nolen. It was just "OBEY OR I'LL BOOT YOU~!! "

His words were: "You know Cliff, I have lots of conservative friends. None of them treats me like I'm an idiot. My respect for you is down the toilet. Tell you what, lets keep all future conversations on tribe business. I don't want to hear from you other than that. Make no mistake, if you continue your recent behavior, you will be booted. "

That was his response to my telling him that I was confused, asking for clarification, and for him to look at the other posts that were substantially more inflammatory than mine but, from the left.

His tone and conduct conveyed an insoluble stupidity. He has erected a capricious moving target of his own intolerance of political speech. He doesn’t understand that no one can work with a moving target. One day it is OK to rip a politician apart and the next it is not. Or that one day he is saying that Public figures are fair game and the next he reverses himself but only with respect to one politician.


When he ordered me to lay off on his pet politician he left me unable to know where his lines were – what was off limits - what was OK. It's not as if I didn't ask. I tried three times to communicate with him on the subject. He refused to answer. I was left with the vague sense some statement as to this politician is VERBOTEN but what about some other statement? I had no way of knowing what was allowed in his new personal Reich. As a general proposition I don't believe that he is insolubly stupid. He is however, excessively arrogant.

Three times I asked him to explain how my going after a political figure was out of line. Each time he refused to elaborate or explain his position. The only message he was capable of was "My way or the highway~!!" “Don’t Play Games with me~!!” Yah. He said about perfectly reasonable questions asking for clarification: that I was just playing games - games that he saw as beneath his dignity.


And then the miserable worthless coward started lying about me.

That struck me as a bridge too far.