What a screwed up country. .

topic posted Thu, November 5, 2009 - 8:56 PM by  lorenzo
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we have. . .i'm not sure we will ever get out of the mess we are in. .
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  • Re: What a screwed up country. .

    Fri, November 6, 2009 - 12:50 PM
    Not to put too fine a point on it Lorenzo but: what are you talking about ?
    • Re: What a screwed up country. .

      Fri, November 6, 2009 - 7:34 PM
      lack of good leadership, crumbling public infrastructure, local governments running out of money, few economic prospects, friends and allies wandering away. . .china getting stronger. .
      • Re: What a screwed up country. .

        Sat, November 7, 2009 - 7:51 AM
        All true.

        The idiots seem always to fall for the populist lies and shit and the politicians who are best at putting forward lies and shit are the worse possible examples of the species.

        And there are more idiots than there are any other type of person.
        That is what the Democrats have figured out. The really stupid people out number every one else combined.
        Stupid lazy shiftless weak people are the single largest component of population no matter where you go.
        The left has figured this out and also the nexus between what they hold as ideologically desirable goals and the imagined desired and wants of that demographic. And over a few decades the worst element of the Democratic party ( the stupid lazy shiftless sort) has managed to work a mind fuk on the leadership changing nearly everything about the party platform.

        ERGO: The Dems are all about big government making sure that their constituents see them as trying to have government do everything for them.

        I can remember when Democrats were the party of personal responsibility. They were all about people being independent, self supporting, responsible, owning up to obligations, these people were proud of their military service, went to church and took it seriously, paid their bills, held their jobs and businesses in the face of adversity, raised families, and were proud of their nation.

        Then something changed in the 1960's and the Left became bitter, hateful, mean spirited, closed minded, reactionary, and violent.
        But worst and I mean the absolutely worst thing was that the left promulgated this myth that government was the be all end all solution for everything. That coupled with the idea that government should be taking care of people it became a Juggernaut of post modernist Communism. The left is modern fascism and communism all rolled into one.


        And that's where they are today.

        • Re: What a screwed up country. .

          Sat, November 7, 2009 - 8:45 AM
          i accept all your comments about the democrats but the republicans are no better. after clinton, bush and obama, this country is just going to be parted out at a yard sale for pennies on the dollar. .
          • Re: What a screwed up country. .

            Mon, November 9, 2009 - 6:51 AM
            The republicans are paragons pf perfection and upstanding faithfulness in all they do.

            How can you imagine otherwise?



            I am a big fan of gridlock.
            I start from the position that government is evil, albeit a necessary one.
            I think government must always have profound checks against overreaching and the single best one I know of is when the Dem / Repub ratio forces them to work together .

            As a people it would be well for us to realize that sweeps of one party or the other is never a good thing.


          • Re: What a screwed up country. .

            Mon, November 9, 2009 - 11:14 PM
            >> after clinton, bush and obama, this country is just going to be parted out at a yard sale for pennies on the dollar. . <<

            what are you talking about? Bush Senior and Clinton left the country in a far better state. GW and Obama represent the ideological fringes of their respective parties and the results speak for themselves.
            • Re: What a screwed up country. .

              Tue, November 10, 2009 - 7:42 AM
              Clinton was reigned in by the Gingrich Republicans.
              His policies were heading off into left field straightaway and he got clobbered for it.

              Bush W. was just bizarre. He used profligate spending to keep the whole congress on board with his war footing. He increased the power of government in areas where he thought supported his anti terrorism policies and then - Because enough is never enough) he decided that he should use the justice department to enforce his ideas of what is moral and what is not.
              They actually had whole offices of admittedly and openly Christian zealot prosecutors who had nothing to do but seek out moral wrong doing and prosecute it. It was really weird.

              Stumbles is going to get clobbered too.
              As it was when Dems ran against Bush W., no matter what the post in contention was whether it was dog catcher or senator all a Dem had to do was be the anti-Bush and they were a shoo in. Well it;'s going to be like that in 2010 and 2012 . All a Repub needs to be elected is the anti-Pelosi, anti-Ried, or anti-Stumbles candidate and he or she will be golden.




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