So Donna Brazil

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Is on CNN chatting about Afghanistan and she says that the Dems have no problem with sending troops to Afghanistan but they want a clearly defined mission.

A clearly defined mission she says.
Sounds great. I agree. So does everybody else.
You won't find any one at all who will fault that position.

Clearly defined mission. 'Cept whuzzat?
I mean what is clearly defined and what missions are going to be seen as legitimate?
Isn't that where it all goes to shit every time?

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  • Re: So Donna Brazil

    Sun, November 15, 2009 - 8:54 AM
    oh, always so negative.

    I think it is fascinating that people have countries or states or cities as names. .

    Donna Brazil, Mark Cuban, John Maine, Minnesota Slim, Dallas Green, Tennessee Williams, Judy Chicago, Baked Alaska. .
    • Re: So Donna Brazil

      Sun, November 15, 2009 - 8:59 AM

      So for all their wonderful erudition the fucking Dems end up not saying a god dammed thing.

      Clearly defined.

      Yah sure.

      That's like saying you shouldn't go to college unless you have a clearly defined end result - what you plan to do when you get out.
      Except it changes for lots of folks.
      I wanted to study Engineering, then I switched to theology/psych/ history (yah a triple major), then after I finished I switched in Grad school to Psychiatric Social Work, then years later got my Doctorate in Law.

      Missions do creep. They really do. But the Mission in Afghanistan was first to crush the Taliban and we did.
      Problem is, no one at the time really understood where all those cockroaches were coming from.
      Now after years of warfare we know that the Taliban are not Afghani' native they are imported from northern Pakistan
      So then what?
      So then it turned into a slow ground and pound where we helplessly let the Afghanistan Taliban get trained in Pakistan, cross the border, and start trouble ( which trouble is the point we discover them) and engage them.

      But the pipeline of Taliban is endless. There is no way a ground and pound will work unless we can cut the snake's head off in Northern Pakistan. It appears that the Taliban got to big for their britches in Pakistan and finally ( finally) forced the Paki's to do something about them.
      But what if all they do is move?
      I mean what if the snake's head just evaporates from Pakistan and re-incorporates somewhere else?
      That is, after all, their primary skill. They are sourceless baseless amorphous. They don't come from anywhere in particular.

      I know. The only solution is the nuke the whole region.
      But who has the stomach for that?
      Stalin is dead, Hitler is gone, Pol Pot is no longer among us.
      Who has the stomach to do what the tribalistic islamist monsters are forcing for our hand?
      Who has the stomach to simply say the hell with them all mothers, sons, daughters, dogs cats all of them the hell with them all.
      And then act on it. Who has that fortitude to be a monster?

      Well maybe it'd be moot at this point because while we were cheering our victory over the Soviet Bear the fukin tribal Islamists spread like a disease to all four corners of the planet. They are everywhere.
      So then if you burn the whole eastern orient to ash and then burn it again toll the sands turn to glass you will still have the problem of not having killed all the cockroaches.
      And every time you open your fridge there will be cockroaches scurrying out of the light

      What we need is a universal cockroach killer.

      We need to debunk, deflate, de-mythologize, and destroy everything about the Islamic religion.
      We need to open it up and demonstrate it as the mental disease which it is and cast the whole fuking mess on the trash heap of history.
      That shouldn't be all that hard. It is after a every bit as pathetic as the Christian Scientist's faith. Made up by some one for all the wrong reasons and then piled onto by more people who did so for all the wrong reasons.

      Muhammad was a m homosexual pedophile. The only thing he wanted was power.
      So he made the whole thing up to ensure that weak minded people would deliver up to him the things he wanted:
      Armed guards riches, and children lots and lots of children.
      And he found weak minded barely human creatures to seduce and overwhelm.
      And the rest (as they say) was just a pack of lies.

      Allah is a joke. There is no such thing. Mohamed was no prophet, he was a pedophile homosexual who liked wealth power and especially little boys and was smart enough to include girls in the mix for public relations.

      The Mullas are for the most part illiterate monkeys who also seek power and wealth and little more.

      Islam is a mental disease that has enslaved the ignorant, the angry, the foolish, and the congenitally stupid across the world.

      That is the narrative that needs a fair quantum of historical fact uncovered to make it irresistible.

      Prove to the idiots that their god is a dirty joke played upon them by a monster whose most noble goal in life was to jam his pecker into little children.
      • Re: So Donna Brazil

        Sun, November 15, 2009 - 9:17 AM
        you should get into PR work, you've got a real knack for it!
        • Re: So Donna Brazil

          Sun, November 15, 2009 - 7:18 PM
          Actually I am conversant with population manipulation techniques that I see being used daily.
          Trained in it in grad school. Don't you know, only fukin leftist true believers ever go for the MSW? So they sort of let their guards down and you get to see a little bit behind the curtain.
          • Re: So Donna Brazil

            Sun, November 15, 2009 - 7:21 PM
            behind the curtain? a little bald guy who would rather be in Kansas?

            What happened to Kansas, he asked? Still a red state? Where are my red shoes?

            Or was it silver slippers Dorothy wore? and red shoes that Elvis said the angels wanted to wear. .
            • Re: So Donna Brazil

              Sun, November 15, 2009 - 7:22 PM
              Actually what did you train in? That sounds interesting, if you are at liberty to discuss it. .
              • Re: So Donna Brazil

                Sun, November 15, 2009 - 7:38 PM

                As an interesting aside:
                What the hell do you think the liberal elites did quite deliberately to Christianity?
                They demythologized it to death.
                And why?
                The Christians were not a world wide bloody violent terror entity. They bombed no trains demolished no buildings packed with innocents.
                What great wrong did the Christians do that caused the liberal elite to conspire - and they did conspire - to apply themselves toward the destruction of Christian faith?

                And by the same token what the fukin hell have the god dammed Mooslims done to endear themselves to the Uber liberal elite so much so that the fukin left has embraced the terrorists and all mooslims as some sort of basket case victim that needs their protection?

                In Social Work School they made very little effort to disguise the clear unambiguous goal to educate and send forth all of us as emissaries to change the way Americans thought, to bring about a more complacent population willing to embrace the left's agenda.
                A lot of it had to do with making people feel as if they were the victim of some other person some other entity. We were trained to strip personal responsibility from the individual, to discourage individualism in general, and move people into manageable discrete blocks of demographically identifiable groupings. This makes it infinitely easier to pander to and work upon the fears and desires of people when you can corral large numbers of them into blocks. The victim status is one of the earliest and most successful concepts. Educate people to think of themselves as victims of some larger darker thing. It doesn't even matter terribly much if you don't have an easily identifiable antagonist. The language of class warfare was paramount. The helpless victim mentality - if you can bring it about - makes it easy to teach them what it is that you want them to be angry about. Once you get angry helpless victims you can perpetuate this through the generations.





                • Re: So Donna Brazil

                  Sun, November 15, 2009 - 7:54 PM
                  if you are going to fight a battle, you need to recruit soldiers. . .everybody does it. republicans, democrats, social workers. .
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                    Re: So Donna Brazil

                    Sun, November 15, 2009 - 7:57 PM
                    even cheerleaders at football rallies. . .everybody who is striving for victory, especially those who are coming from the out group. . .outside the halls of power. look at how the vietcong did it. . .the cubans. americans do it too, but sometimes very badly.

                    we don't seem to know how to do it in the middle east. . .or perhaps any culture, except for eurocentric cultures. .
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                    Re: So Donna Brazil

                    Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:53 AM
                    **************** if you are going to fight a battle, you need to recruit soldiers. . .everybody does it. republicans, democrats, social workers. .
                    reply to this post***************

                    You are trying to sweep a very big dead elephant in the middle of the room under a very tiny rug.
        • Re: So Donna Brazil

          Sun, November 15, 2009 - 8:53 PM
          <you should get into PR work, you've got a real knack for it! >

          Speaking as a former PR professional, Cliff sucks at it. If Cliff ever went into Public Relations, the entire industry would self-destruct. There are many things Cliff and I disagree with, but one thing Cliff is not is a liar. Cliff is telling you the gospel truth. You might not like what Cliff is telling you, but that is just tough. You can put your hands over your ears and sing "la, la, la, I can't hear you," but that is not going to change the fact that Cliff is abso-fucking-lutely right.
          • Re: So Donna Brazil

            Sun, November 15, 2009 - 8:58 PM
            haha. . .Bill you are reading me wrong. I'm recreation staff here, not human resources. .
            • Re: So Donna Brazil

              Sun, November 15, 2009 - 9:03 PM
              and btw I am not arguing with Cliff. . .I studied social work for a time and was a community organizer in a small program for awhile. . .I understand what he is talking about and while he sees it one way, I see other things, while not arguing with his point.

              I changed my direction of study because my assessment of the situation was that the strategies of the time weren't really going to lead to much. The key for me was reading Utopia or Oblivion and Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth. That changed my perspective forever.
              • Re: So Donna Brazil

                Mon, November 16, 2009 - 7:58 AM
                While I sort of kind of like Bucky I wouldn't allow his vision or ideas to inform mine.

                The same applies to Karl Marx or Leon Trotsky. Smart people but whether they have smart things to say here and there they are limited by more than mere ideology - which standing alone is sufficient reason the mistrust them entirely. They are limited by the fact of them being human.

                No human can conceive of a plan for all other humans.
                That path is pure arrogance and can only result in despotism and tyranny.
                • Re: So Donna Brazil

                  Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:20 AM
                  Not just his concept of structures, but his view that most problems could be resolved using design principles and applying new technologies. Brilliant. .
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                    Re: So Donna Brazil

                    Mon, November 16, 2009 - 8:24 AM
                    >No human can conceive of a plan for all other humans.
                    That path is pure arrogance and can only result in despotism and tyranny.

                    100%. . .but some social systems allow greater access to humans to make key decisions. . .and that is what I want. . .designing a system that allows for increased democracy. The marketplace of ideas should be fully open for business where new ideas come to the fore and are considered by all, with the best ideas winning out.

                    Not the system we have now. .

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