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If the Fed can get it's hands around the health care industry and end user delivery of medicine the civil rights depredations historically seen under the Commerce Clause will be minor in compartison.
Once the government has a vested interest in your health - and if it's managing and funding health care delivery it will have such a vested interest. Then the government will be in a position to dictate when you eat, how much you eat, what you eat. It will be able to regulate what you drink, the vitamins you consume even how often you shit. Government will be able to forbid you from consuming any food that is not "approved" which reasonably would include all home made products like Yogurt; Kefir, Beer, Wine you name it if there is a bureaucrat who thinks that it serves the public interest to regulate every single aspect of your life they can and will. Government can issue orders that restrict what you may consume based on the recommendation of some faceless panel that goes over your medical information.
The Fed will be able tell you when to exercise, they can create enforcement protocols that provide for a whole slew of persons whose job it will be to invade your life and your home and inspect your cupboards and fridge to ensure your possession of only approves groceries and medications, take your blood pressure urine and stool samples.
Drug Testing can and may become mandatory for every one on some regular schedule.
Mandatory vaccinations, Mandatory screening for all manner of things can become the inescapable standard.
Under the rubric of cost management and health and safety your entertainment can be regulated. If some panel reviewing your medical information decides that alarming scary or exciting movies and TV is bad for you the Fed can order your cable to play only soothing programming for your subscription and limit your ability to rent movies to those medically approved.
These things can all be easily done once the Fed has a vested interest in your health.
Under federal run health care you may find that in a very few years you civil rights will have been swept away
They will be subsumed under the rubric of public safety and cost management.
This would not happen overnight but, happen it can and if it can then, the odds are that it will.
Once the government has a vested interest in your health - and if it's managing and funding health care delivery it will have such a vested interest. Then the government will be in a position to dictate when you eat, how much you eat, what you eat. It will be able to regulate what you drink, the vitamins you consume even how often you shit. Government will be able to forbid you from consuming any food that is not "approved" which reasonably would include all home made products like Yogurt; Kefir, Beer, Wine you name it if there is a bureaucrat who thinks that it serves the public interest to regulate every single aspect of your life they can and will. Government can issue orders that restrict what you may consume based on the recommendation of some faceless panel that goes over your medical information.
The Fed will be able tell you when to exercise, they can create enforcement protocols that provide for a whole slew of persons whose job it will be to invade your life and your home and inspect your cupboards and fridge to ensure your possession of only approves groceries and medications, take your blood pressure urine and stool samples.
Drug Testing can and may become mandatory for every one on some regular schedule.
Mandatory vaccinations, Mandatory screening for all manner of things can become the inescapable standard.
Under the rubric of cost management and health and safety your entertainment can be regulated. If some panel reviewing your medical information decides that alarming scary or exciting movies and TV is bad for you the Fed can order your cable to play only soothing programming for your subscription and limit your ability to rent movies to those medically approved.
These things can all be easily done once the Fed has a vested interest in your health.
Under federal run health care you may find that in a very few years you civil rights will have been swept away
They will be subsumed under the rubric of public safety and cost management.
This would not happen overnight but, happen it can and if it can then, the odds are that it will.
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Re: Best reason to resist government control of health care
Sat, October 31, 2009 - 12:35 PM>> Government can issue orders that restrict what you may consume based on the recommendation of some faceless panel that goes over your medical information. <<
good point. kind of like what is happening right now with soda. -
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Re: Best reason to resist government control of health care
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 8:36 AMYou ain't seen nuthin yet.
In Singapore if you are a citizen and in a restaurant and dare to ask for salt - ( yah it's prohibited) - you are reported.
Do it too often and you may have a problem.
The Chinese got every one out for calisthenics.
I believe that this administration is way far more arrogant than the Chinese were. -
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Re: Best reason to resist government control of health care
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 1:13 PM
>> You ain't seen nuthin yet. <<
yeah. and the frustrating part of it is to point out where things are headed seems absurd. until you point out that ten years ago no one in their wildest imaginations would have considered taxes and bans on public smoking segueing into taxes on trans-fats and soda. I shudder to think if this ball gets rolling what we'll be discussing ten years from now. -
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Re: Best reason to resist government control of health care
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 6:15 PMFrog in a pot. That's what we are.
Jefferson himself declared that the Second Amendment was to provide the citizens the power to be a last ditch check against government excess.
Then in the 1950s they got the bright idea to register guns so that when it came time to round up the commies they'd know who had guns.
Before that they banned machine guns.
The Second Amendment was about the citizens having 100% unfettered access to the latest and greatest military grade weaponry not squirrel hunting.
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Re: Best reason to resist government control of health care
Sun, November 1, 2009 - 6:58 PM>> Frog in a pot. That's what we are. <<
insidious isn't it? and with each power grab, we grow just a little more accustomed to having things done for us.
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