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This is very cool
pruned.blogspot.com/2008/02/...okyo.html
I think that there are considerations to be made about the use of electricity, but with some modification, I could see this becoming a model for cities all over.
pruned.blogspot.com/2008/02/...okyo.html
I think that there are considerations to be made about the use of electricity, but with some modification, I could see this becoming a model for cities all over.
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Tue, March 4, 2008 - 3:33 AMVery interesting indeed.
If they wanted to go as high-tech as possible, LED lighting, light pipes to the outside and the use of something other than electricity to keep the facility warm would make the whole thing a lot more energy efficient.
It sort of reminds me of one of the tourist attractions in my area. The attraction is a place called Howe's Caverns. In taking a tour of the cavern, the tour guides will point out the moss growing in the cavern, and remind everyone that the only reason the moss grows there is because of the artificial lights that have been installed so that the caverns can be toured.
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Fri, March 7, 2008 - 10:47 AMI find this very interesting. Now all we need is free energy. -
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Sat, March 8, 2008 - 4:51 AMLast I checked, both solar power and wind power are free. -
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Sun, March 9, 2008 - 1:29 PMJust expensive to set up to power something that size and the amount of light they were using. -
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Sun, March 9, 2008 - 2:34 PMYep, I think we agree on that.
My hope would be that the contained environment would reduce the environmental impact in enough ways to offset the energy that the project would use. If nothing else, though, it means healthy, locally grown food for those in the immediate vicinity. -
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 3:51 AMHere in the UK, the leader of the political opposition party, had some wind power installed in his garden to show how green he was. It was quite large. It was also removed for being useless. It was a huge embarrassment.
Over the last 3 years, because of see what is going on, and the way the large food companies go about their business, I've come to the conclusion that going right back to the way farming was done a 100 years ago, is the best way forward. It would be nice to have the old farming markets back. I'm also getting more and more into gardening, but that may just be because I'm getting older. -
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 4:08 AMSolar/wind are great power sources if the conditions are right, but the point that is so often missed is that they need to be coupled with energy efficiency to work well. A lot of it is also dependent on wind profile. I suspect that if the MP in question had done his research, he wouldn't have built the turbine.
Rural upstate NY is blessed with a lot of wind and sunshine, so such projects are feasible. Texas has a lot more wind, to the point that utility-scale wind projects are now selling power at a cheaper market price than conventional power plants, which is the way it should be. (I pay a premium of about 1 cent per kilowatt-hour, which I think is about 1.8p per MJ for wind power)
As for farming the old way.... my grandfather was a farmer. He didn't take it to the full expression of industrial farming, but was headed in that general direction. He still had a lot of the old school knowledge, though. We do have some farmer's markets, and my wife and I do patronize them, but they aren't the thriving marketplace that they should be; rather, they are a once-a-week gathering of a relatively small number of vendors and a small number of patrons.
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Re: Indoor Teaching Garden
Fri, April 11, 2008 - 12:37 PMGrowing with artificial lighting isn't something people really want to do unless you are in an environment where the natural sunlight isn't available. The japenese garden has to be burning some major kilowatts by the looks of all those lights. Generating the power by means of solar wouldn't make much sense since you would have inefficiencies with the solar collectors and also with the lights. You would need more area for solar panels than you would if you where just to put a garden or greenhouse in the same spot.
This type of technology is good if you want fresh produce somewhere like the north pole or you demand to have a strictly controlled environments. I know that researches have growth chambers for monitoring effects of biological agents on plants and things like this where you dont want some disease to escape into the environment.
You can also use supplimental lighting to manipulate a plants photoperiod.
The university of arizona controlled environmental program (i'm an allumnis) was commissioned to construct a growth chamber for the researchers in Antartica. Since its dark for 6 months of the year with sub freezing temps, you need a growth chamber to produce fresh produce, especially since supplies are shipped in on only certain parts of the year. The lights are 1000W water cooled HPS and the heat is radiated into the ventalation system to suppliment the research facility:
ag.arizona.edu/ceac/CEACr...nal/004.htm
ag.arizona.edu/ceac/CEACg...ary/001.htm
ag.arizona.edu/ceac/CEACg...ary/002.htm
Alternative forms of lighting are available, led lights have hit the scene and boast great efficiencies and low heat generation. Some of the new electronic HID ballast are a big improvement on the traditional magnetic type also. I've seen people working with solar collectors that focus light into fiber optic cable too. This might be practical for growing produce on a space station or something to that effect.