Discrimination...

topic posted Mon, April 14, 2008 - 10:35 PM by 
At what point does mental illness kick in as a discriminating factor?

Also, at what point does someones (incorrect) assumption of employment status have ANYTHING to do with the price of tea in china?
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  • Re: Discrimination...

    Wed, April 16, 2008 - 3:14 PM
    a reference to employment status sounds to me like an ad hominem attack. If the person isn't employed, then we're being led to believe that their argument is somehow less valid.

    In most cases, I'd expect that the same was true of "mental illness", although "mental illness" covers a lot of ground, most of which isn't really relevant to much of anything. To use an appeal based on "mental illness" would seem to me to be an attempt to dismiss someone out of hand rather than to actually address their concerns. Depending on the situation, that might be completely reasonable, and it might not.

    In what context were you thinking of these things?
    • Re: Discrimination...

      Thu, April 17, 2008 - 12:21 PM
      To clarify, this is a general question bourne of several years of example.

      Mental Illness, in this argument, would be a Fully or Highly functioning individual who is otherwise diagnosed with a qualifying "Severe Mental Illness".

      I guess a new subjective argument questions...

      Should a person with a legally defined "Severe Mental Illness" (this includes major depression, too, folks!) be treated / accommodated for the same as any other disability?



      • Re: Discrimination...

        Thu, April 17, 2008 - 3:11 PM
        I think you're misreading the diagnoses. These things can be severe, but aren't necessarily. The simple presence of one of them doesn't a priori mean that someone is severely disabled at all.

        I'm self identified autistic in the same way that I'm self identified caucasion and male. It's just a way that I am. It's only a disability socially, much like being black or gay might be. I'm not diagnosed because I'm not problematical in that way.

        We all eat. But only some of us have eating disorders.
  • severe mental illness for adults...

    Thu, April 17, 2008 - 12:24 PM
    schizophrenia
    schizoaffective disorder
    bipolar disorder
    major depressive disorder(s)
    panic disorder
    obsessive-compulsive disorder
    pervasive develepmental disorders
    - aka "autism spectrum disorders
    anorexia nervosa
    bulimia nervosa
    • Re: severe mental illness for adults...

      Thu, April 17, 2008 - 3:33 PM
      Treated, or accommodated for, in the same way as other illnesses by whom and in which way? The question is to broad.

      Do I think they should they get handicapped placards for their car? No.
      (But I don't think anyone should, if they don't' have a walking disability. I know someone who has one because he has bad wrists. Please.)

      Should their health care assist with psychiatric care, meds, and such? Yes.

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