Incest 2

topic posted Tue, May 22, 2007 - 7:12 PM by  Unsubscribed
I like to keep a conversation going in one place, but the Incest thread says it is as deep as is allowed. So....Incest 2. :)
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  • Re: Incest 2

    Thu, May 31, 2007 - 9:54 AM
    I had a few non penetration experiences with a younger sister and they were positive. We have never spoken about them when we met and our relationship was not affected. The subject should be discussed more and as long as pregnancy is not involved or sex with underage children then there should be no problem as long as it is consensual. It is in Germany Sweden and the Netherlands
    • Re: Incest 2

      Wed, June 20, 2007 - 5:41 PM
      Wow, John--do they *allow* "consensual, positive incest" in Germany, Sweden, and the Netherlands? As long as it's between siblings, and not between an over-18 and an under-16 to 18? I know that Germany recently legalized prostitution!
      • Re: Incest 2

        Thu, June 21, 2007 - 1:37 PM
        definitely all the barriers are falling and they dont have to be over 18 just about the age of having sexual relations. They do not allow marriages and I am sure if it was known that the female of a consensual incest couple was pregnant that would be a different matter as the welfare of the child would be taken into consideration.
    • Re: Incest 2

      Fri, May 30, 2008 - 4:51 PM
      Hi, I am Dutch and yes sex with underage kids is indeed not illegal in Holland. It is regulated. Believe it or not,… If you have the desire as an adult to have sex with a minor and this minor consents; you must first go through the proper authorities.

      Euthanasia and sex with under aged children is dealt with in much the same way in Holland. We don’t make it illegal; we regulate the heck out of it. If you want to die, you first have to be approved by a whole battery of doctors. Most Americans don’t know this and think that we kill our relatives left and right. Same deal with pedophilia. By the time you have been approved the kid is probably of age. Just as very few people live long enough to be granted the right to kill themselves.

      Trust me, the moral judgment of the Dutch people about sex with minors is the same as here in America. We may more open to exploring the topic though.
  • Re: Incest 2

    Sun, June 17, 2007 - 11:22 AM
    I'm so glad you're keeping this thread alive. The topic is so often clouded in embarrassment and ignorance, but it is also fully human and needs greater understanding especially by people who haven't given it much thought. Thanks for bringing this often shadowy subject out into the light where we all can learn of its aspects and consequences -- both the favorable and the sometimes unfavorable.
    • Re: Incest 2

      Sat, July 21, 2007 - 7:24 AM
      Yes, the unfavourable ones .... ! My father gave me a beating when he caught my sister and I having (non penetrative) sex when I was fourteen years old and she nineteen, After this we only had these loving exchanges infrequently, when ther was no chance of being disturbed.
      On the positive side she taught me almost all I know about the female body and her sexual needs for which I remain
      extremely grateful. The sexual side of our relationship ended when she met a man who was to become her partner but we still refer to it now and again when the opportunity arises.
      • Re: Incest 2

        Mon, July 23, 2007 - 5:05 AM
        to Derek: yummy! So sorry to hear about that beating! That is NO way to handle adolescent sexuality!
        • Re: Incest 2

          Mon, July 23, 2007 - 6:02 AM
          Thanks. The beating didn't hurt as much as some of the things he called me or the fact that he'd assumed it was all my responsibility. I have to add that he was brought up to believe that sex was something dirty which should never be talked about, let alone practiced in such a way, which he saw as scandalous and disgusting. Thank heavens we are generally more understanding these days!
          • Re: Incest 2

            Tue, November 20, 2007 - 5:09 PM
            You are so lucky to have such a loving and generous sister. Pity about your father's misunderstanding and the beating he gave you. I'm glad that the sexual aspect didn't negatively impact the rest of your relationship with your sister. I wish you, her, and her partner well!
  • how thing change and how things stay the same

    Fri, July 27, 2007 - 11:28 PM
    I have had an on again off again relationship with my sister. I thought it was over based on the fact that she seemed to avoid talking about it but all of that changed last weekend. I felt as if the subject made her uncomfortable so I dropped it. She called me Friday night to tell me that her husband was out of town for the weekend and that she need some company and to get our of the house. We decided to meet at a club. We sat in a booth and got a couple of drinks. We have always been able to talk and the time flys. All of a sudden I realized that she had her hand on my leg. I was surprised but I did not want to over react. We had several drinks and I told her that I did not think I should drive home. We decided to share a cab. Since she lived close to the club we were going to drop her off first. We got to her house and she said that I should sleep at her house because the cab ride to my house would be expensive and she didn't like an empty house. We sat at the kitchen and she opened a bottle of wine. Half way through the bottle I was more than a little buzzed. She said that talking about our relationship made her feel uncomfortable but she paused and then said and really excited. I explained that I did not want her to feel uncomfortable. She said she got over that and leaned over and kissed me and not the kind of kiss people usually think about when they talk about brother and sister. Needless to say the entire evening was a big surprise.
    • Hmmmmm.Perhaps I should try to reopen the sexual side of our teenage relationship?
      Please don't stop your account of the evening there - tell us more!
      • Re: how thing change and how things stay the same

        Wed, August 8, 2007 - 10:39 PM
        Well I do not want to kiss and tell too much but... I will say that she really enjoys sex and it shows. Making love with her is like exercising in a hot tub, very wet and tiring but a great experience. Since then we have met on several other occasions. A couple of the times it started innocent enough but took a wild turn. We met for lunch the other day, we decided to have a couple of drinks and started talking about how things between us had changed and before I knew it we were heading for a hotel. I though she had turned into a bit of a prude, was I wrong! It is not just her appetite, she has also turned the table on me in the adventure category. She said that next time she is going to bring along some toys. I can't wait!!!
        • Re: how thing change and how things stay the same

          Wed, August 15, 2007 - 4:21 PM
          I must say that it is a very different experience then most would think. We care about each other to the point that we know that even when we fight, which happens more than I would like, we know that we will not stay mad long. I have been married and expected that same feeling and it just did not happen. I am sure that some married couples experience the same emotion but from my experience it happens less than I expected. I think that comes from having this relationship for so long, since we were fairly young. The sex is great, we both want the other to have a great time and get just as much pleasure from that as we do when we climax. I know that is hard to believe but it is true for us.
          • Re: how thing change and how things stay the same

            Mon, August 20, 2007 - 7:54 AM
            Thanks Alan.Nice to know your relationship is proceeding, unlike mine which has not resumed. I know my sister wants to restart this side of our relationship,as I've asked her, but she has trouble with her concience. At present I cannot think of a suitable argument to overcome this problem apart from reminding her of the pleasures we gave each other when we were having sex. I'm just giving the idea time to mellow in her mind - maybe in a while she will come round?
          • Re: how thing change and how things stay the same

            Tue, November 20, 2007 - 5:15 PM
            Alan, thanks so much for sharing this slice of your life with us. I'm happy for you and your sister, and count you both very lucky. Wonderful to hear you've such a positive relationship (filial and sexual), and that things are going so well! As we've aged, my brother and I argue considerably less than we used to, but we never stay mad at each other long, I think. Good to hear someone else has a similar experience.
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      Re: how thing change and how things stay the same

      Mon, December 10, 2007 - 8:35 PM
      I honor consensual relationships between adults...no matter their familial ties, but what about the issue of honor regarding honesty about your relationship with your sister? It sounds as if her husband does not know......does it actually feel honorable, honest of of integrity to be haveing an affair? What about that part of this relationship?
      • Re: how thing change and how things stay the same

        Sun, December 16, 2007 - 9:45 PM
        Well of course you are right. We have had this hidden relationship for a long time. We are at an interesting junction, one that may end this relationship forever. My sister told me last week that she was going to talk to her husband about our relationship. She asked me not to contact her until she contacted me. I am very worried but hopeful. I personally feel that monogamy is an invention by a backwards pseudo religious community of which I feel no connection with but that is another story. We have spoken about her husband on several occasions. She told me that he was very open about "possibilities" but that was as far as it had ever gone. I have and do feel bad about conducting this relationship in the dark but felt that I had little recourse as my sister did not feel that we should go down that road.
  • If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want...

    Sat, July 28, 2007 - 2:42 PM
     If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want One to Marry Your Sister? by Theodore Sturgeon. Originally appeared in Harlan Ellison's "Dangerous Visions" anthology (which is still in print!).  

    A snippet of dialog from the story:


    "Tell me, then: what's wrong with incest?"
         "You breed too close, you get faulty offspring. Idiots and dead babies without heads and all that."
         "I knew it!...Isn't is wonderful? From the rocky depths of a Stone Age culture... all the way out to the computer technocracies...- you ask that question and you get that answer. It's something everybody just knows. You don't have to look at the evidence....
         "Sex is a pretty popular topic on most worlds. Almost every aspect of it that is ever mentioned has almost nothing to do with procreation.... But mention incest, and the response always deals with offspring. Always! To consider and discuss a pleasure or love relationship between blood relatives, you've apparently got to make some sort of special mental effort that nobody, anywhere, seems able to do easily- some not at all."
         "I admit I never made it. But then- what is wrong with incest, with or without pregnancy?"
         "Aside from moral considerations, you mean. The moral consideration is that it's a horrifying thought, and it's a horrifying thought because it always has been. Biologically speaking, I'd say there's nothing wrong with it. Nothing. I'd go even further..."


    Also, the movie "Lone Star" is worth seeing for a sensible response to an incestuous relationship.
    • Re: If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want...

      Sun, August 19, 2007 - 3:47 PM
      i have had a incest dream and i am a prodoct of incest but not blood incest my moms step dad is my dad and my wife and i have had sex with him and i has been the most wonderful time we have had but my incest dream is with my mom and i know it will never happen
    • Re: If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want...

      Sat, September 22, 2007 - 2:49 PM
      Phew! Where to draw the line with that one? I never fantasize about incest with blood family, but I find guys much older than myself very arousing, 'cause they make such great Fantasy Daddies. Hot.
      Am I the only one who breathes out "Daddy" in bed at certain climactic moments when with an older male partner? *blush* My last lover found that VERY arousing. He was definitely turned on by incest and definitely open about sexual arousal towards other men.... I don't know if he's ever acted on those feelings or not. We're not together anymore, because of his extreme health challenges. I miss him!
      • Re: If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want...

        Mon, October 1, 2007 - 7:11 AM
        I once had a lover who liked to pretend she was my mother ... she loved to have her nipples sucked for ages and ages until she was so aroused she would take me, by force if necessary. I suppose I must have been fantasizing about incest at the time although I didn't consciously do so. Having said that I guess I did as I had to call her 'Mummy'.
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        Re: If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want...

        Fri, November 2, 2007 - 12:47 PM
        Linda, I've turned on several lovers by breathing Daddy Daddy in their ears. They didn't have daughters, but I can look very young if I try. I don't find my own Daddy a turn on, but my uncle definitely is. I've used the same effect with a few older women when I've whisper Mommy Mommy. They went wild.
        My only incest moment came with my sister who crawled in my bed after a bad dream. We were both in our teens and one thing led to another. On occasion we still play out that night if we're visiting.
        • Re: If All Men Were Brothers, Would You Want...

          Tue, November 20, 2007 - 5:22 PM
          Never have I had sex with someone to whom I'm related (I don't have any sisters, and no interest in my parents or brother), but for a cousin, I'd make an exception, if she were willing. If I *had a sister,* whole different story....

          On the mommy/daddy note, I've role-played that way a few times recently. I used to get squicked out at the idea, but lately, it's much more of a turn on--pretending I'm someone's daddy, or that my lover is my mommy. Funny, but to get there in my head, I tend to be in dom/sub space, while most of my other (non-bdsm) fantasies don't require that.
  • Re: Incest 2

    Sat, October 20, 2007 - 5:44 PM
    I had sex with two teen Uncles when I was a kid. I liked it until my parents found out, then all hell broke loose
    • Re: Incest 2

      Thu, November 29, 2007 - 11:00 PM
      When I was in college my girl friend invited me to her mom's house for dinner one evening. I met her mom's boyfriend. He was about my age and we hung out a little mostly to shoot pool. One night he made a comment about my girl friends breasts. I have always been pretty open about sex so I just laughed and agreed. On another evening he asked me what I thought about her mom. I had always thought she was hot so I told him. This all took place in what I would consider normal conversation so I did not think much about it. Then one evening we were all over at my girl friends house having a few drinks and playing cards when I noticed that he was make advances towards my girl friend kinda in a joking manner but I could tell there was something more to it. I realized that it was making me excited. They were in the kitchen and I was sitting next to her mom in the dinning room. I was not sure if she could tell I was excited or not but she started rubbing my thigh and as soon as she did I got a monster erection. It seemed like in the space of 30 seconds we were all in her moms bed room and I was watching her moms boyfriend going down on my girl friend while her mom was giving me head. I still think of that night over and over and over.
      • Re: Incest 2

        Fri, December 7, 2007 - 11:14 PM
        Hot story
        Did the mother do anything with her daughter? Family activities that are shared promote better relationships I believe.
        • Re: Incest 2

          Sun, December 16, 2007 - 5:49 PM
          I am not sure. They did not do anything that night. I did see her watching me give it to her mother and her mother was watching her. I remember at one point her and her mother were face to face as we did them from behind but I did not see them kiss or anything.
          • Re: Incest 2

            Sun, December 16, 2007 - 8:48 PM
            thats hot
            if you have pics of them it might be nice to see them
            • Re: Incest 2

              Tue, December 18, 2007 - 8:17 PM
              I hate to say it I do not have any pictures. It was a long time ago and a spur of the moment thing. I wish I did!
      • Re: Incest 2

        Sat, February 23, 2008 - 10:36 AM
        Alan, I hate to admit this, but I find your story HOT.
        "All In The Family" takes on a new meaning here.
        That said, I don't do blood relatives, but the thought of a man not related to me by blood being my "Daddy" or even "Grandpa" just makes my panties moist, in that delightful way!

        Think. "Uncle" Ted. "Grandpa" Wyman. Sizzling!
        • Re: Incest 2

          Mon, February 25, 2008 - 8:53 PM
          i think anyone else who has had experiences like this should post their story for the sake of other members
        • Re: Incest 2

          Sun, March 9, 2008 - 9:44 PM
          Hello, I am glad I could bring a little moisture to your panties. I have had a few wonderful experiences and hope to have a few more. I have had a wonderful relationship with my sister although I would very much an on again off again kind of thing. I thought it was all off when she told her husband but luckily we were able to work it out.