This is a 2 part question.
1. Who fears death and why?
2. What do you see the subsequent dimensions as being?
3. What do you think the 'Thinning of the Veils' means?
1. Who fears death and why?
2. What do you see the subsequent dimensions as being?
3. What do you think the 'Thinning of the Veils' means?
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Sat, November 17, 2007 - 5:45 PMEr, 3 part question that is, lol. Spirit Wolf
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Sun, November 18, 2007 - 2:05 AMFor me, this has been a very difficult incarnation and death looks like a light at the end of the tunnel. When, occasionally, i feel a flutter in my heart and think i might die, i get kinda excited. Honestly though, i feel like i've made a lot of regretful errors and failed to accomplish much of what if wanted to this incarnation, and i think i will be somewhat ashamed of this afterwards. I think that in subsequent dimensions we are more aware of our wholeness, and less apart. I think the Tibetan Book of the Dead is a good guide. I read it when i was about 20, and had a very vivid dream afterwards, in which a light being said "good work kid". I admitted that i didn't understand a word of it, and they said that that didn't matter, that i had it on file and it would be available to me when needed. Thinning of the veils means becoming more aware of other dimensions, becoming more permeable to spirit. -
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Sun, November 18, 2007 - 11:41 AMFor myself Spirit Wolf, Wil, everyone....Death is a Doorway to a Dimension I long to Join.....so I have no Fear of Returning Home....only deep desire to reconnect to all of Me. As far as other Dimensions.....They are Within...right here..right now..some many layers! but we mostly fail to notice. Yet, we are Merging anyway....
The Thinning of the Veil is really happening...we are able to access realms so much easier now with a little focus and intention. It means that we are more deeply intune with this New Reality that is the Merger of all that is....ALL life on Earth as ONE....This the Divine Feminine, the Mother, Gaia.......This is our SOUL...the Veil is Thinning so that more and more of us can to connect the the Inner Cosmic Heart of Light and ONENESS...this is what once was and will now be once more in a New and reformed, Re ~birthed sort of way....I Sense a deep inter connected-ness to Soul that grows every day...what it felt like yesterday, doubles of how deep and intense it feels to me today....and what will tomorrow reveal to my inner eyes?
If this continues to deepen in this way, surely soon there will be no Veil.....there will be nothing stopping me from Full Realization of all that I AM and always will be....
Death is the Final Remembrance....or to me the Grand Finale and Emergence of my True Soul Self......So it really is not about giving up this Final physical Vehicle as in Death, but more about Thinning the veil, realizing the alternate reality merging, let go of the old material world and birth in the New Realty and along with it the NEW ReBORN physical reality and the appropriate Light Vehicles able to withstand that new Light vibration. to go along with it......... so Let's Imagine a New Heaven, A New Earth and let the old pass away.... -
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 11:11 AMJewel,
I really like what you said here:
"If this continues to deepen in this way, surely soon there will be no Veil.....there will be nothing stopping me from Full Realization of all that I AM and always will be....
Death is the Final Remembrance....or to me the Grand Finale and Emergence of my True Soul Self......"
"more about Thinning the veil, realizing the alternate reality merging, let go of the old material world and birth in the New Realty and along with it the NEW ReBORN physical reality and the appropriate Light "
Blessings, Spirit W
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 10:49 AMHello Wil, thanks for responding!
I understand what you mean about the level of difficulty faced in this incarnation. I wonder though, (and this is my belief so I have no expectations of others to adopt it as theirs and respect others rights to believe as they choose), and tend to think there is far more to this life's level of difficulty than just the level of difficulty. I think the challenges are pretty much the same as they have always been...the difference here is our level of awareness.
How much of, for example, my awareness is due to what I have learned and how much is due to what I have heard?
We believe in what we have learned through experience. But the outward beliefs are expressed due to outside pressures, yet just because we are pressured into saying we believe something, does not mean we really believe it! That which we do not believe to be real, we do NOT act upon!
How can we manifest what we do not believe to be real? It's not possible. So here we are trying to hold up standards that we do not believe in just to keep a job or whatever...whatever it is we are trying to hang onto, yet all we need do is realize it is an illusion.
Once change hits critical mass, as it must, it will be easier to deal with. Right now the change we see is illusion because not enough people believe it is real and it is not, it is only outside pressure that can never be actualized because not enough people believe it to be real!
That is not to say that people will not suffer for it! Look at the holocaust for example, a lot of people paid with their lives for an illusion a few men had. This is why it is important that people stick together when it comes to what we KNOW to be truth rather than flow with an illusion.
Personally I myself do not fear death, I think most of us, those of us who understand death to be only a transition, only fear how we will die because we all understand that death is inevitable.
Wil, you have accomplished more than you are willing to give yourself credit for. So I think it can be good to look at what you define accomplishment to be. If you define it to be what you have acquired, then please see that as an illusion, because accomplishment is onlyabout what you can take with you when you go, that's all. Therefore accomplishment is really about what you experienced.
So perhaps the next question on your list is to look at what you have experienced. Define that, because that is the real reason why we are here, as far as shame goes...replace that word with lessons because that is what regret brings us. Regret means unresolve...never let another person define for you what is good enough. We all make mistakes yaknow, mistakes are just another form of 'teacher'. That's all. If we do not have the tools to teach us how to learn, then the fact that we did not learn is not entirely our fault then is it. Teacher should then be about being taught the skills of how to heal our issues and learn from our mistakes. Teachers should never judge!!!!!!!!! Find a teacher that judges you and let that teacher go because all a teacher like that seeks is power over you! WOW! Therefore the teacher then becomes the wolf in sheeps clothing calling you the wolf!!! See? The only problem with truth is with those who cannot bear it.
I think the reason this incarnation is more difficult IS because we are more aware.
Blessings, Spirit Wolf
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 12:18 PMOddly enough this very same subject came up in another group, different web site. Answering it there enable me to come up with another way of saying it that I really wanted to share here.
Her question was, was anyone else feeling that caged energy.
"I want to say that cages are self induced or created by buying into or allowing ourselves to be coerced into buying into someone else's beliefs that we know does not fit us. We virtually become the square peg trying to fit into a round hole. Why is it people/we do that?
I think we do it out of fear. Too many want or feel they MUST fit into another persons mold so they don't feel all alone in this world. Fitting into others molds is just not possible, the greatest illusion is allowing others to make us believe it is possible. Not that anyone can make us think, do or believe anything really, truth is it is OUR OWN choice but it is a choice born of fear.
Funny thing is I just responded today to someone else with almost these very words. (This group, lol.) Therefore it must be time for these words to come out.
WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MANIFEST THAT WHICH WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED AS TRUTH BECAUSE WE SEE IT TO BE ILLUSION.
It might well be truth, but until we have experienced it as such, it is unmanifestable for us.
However, for me, I tend KNOW truth when I hear/see/feel/taste it, truth gives me chills, so anything that does not give me chills personally, I do not consider a truth FOR ME! There are many truths, they do eventually all boil down to one truth when all is said and done, however, some truths are not meant for me IN THIS INCARNATION. (Meaning) Some are not meant for me to act on in this life because that would interfere with what I came here to accomplish. See?
Back to the cages, when we feel this way, the best thing we can do is vocalize the truth out loud, whether any person besides us is present or not...because whether anyone is in the forest or not, a fallen tree DOES make a loud crashing sound. That sound IS a vibration that the world feels at some point. SO vocalizing the truth, whether anyONE is present to hear it or not, becomes a vibration also that the rest of the world WILL hear at some point.
It's like this thing I read somewhere, I think it goes something like...the flutter of a butterflies wings in Brazil can create a tornado in Texas! Vibrations!!!!!!!!!!
Vibrations are energy in movement."
What is that truth we are to vocalize?
"WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MANIFEST THAT WHICH WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED AS TRUTH BECAUSE WE SEE IT TO BE ILLUSION."
To not be able to manifest it does not make us less than anyone else, it means we are doing what we came here to do, that is all.
That is what separation is all about!!!!!! To make it about anything else is shallow and weak!
Separation is our way of saying, this does not fit what I came here to do so I must step away from it.
Simple really, isn't it.
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Re: Questions
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 11:49 AMI hope we get more replies to this thread. There are no right or wrong answers, because the answers are about you and where you are on your path. I have a friend I have known for a long time, she is brilliant. There are times I see her appear to be way ahead of me in her understanding, and I realized, that is where people tend to think others are ahead or behind them...but they overgeneralize it. Don't forget to recognize that when you see someone appearing to be ahead of you, while it may be true in that category or area they are currently persuing, there are areas that you are persuing that you are ahead in.
Rather than think of this as a linear thing, see it as a circle with many points all the way around. While one point is above or ahead of the one you are currently working on, it does not mean each point is in sequential order. :)
It is when we connect something and compare together, coming up with the same or similar answers that energy becomes motionized within and you feel alive suddenly, highly energized! Those are important times of connection that are necessary to be able to recognize the spark of God/dess within each other and strengthen the connections the two of you have.
But it is the times when conflict occurs that you are asking someone or someone is asking you to strengthen your own inner connections with yourself through recognition, healing, acceptance and working toward wholeness.
Blessings to all and see you back here soon.
Spirit Wolf
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