hey antero and everyone else still perusing the forum...
i was thinking about how you (antero) said in class that when someone is NOT in a relationship...they tend to hang out/act out of their ascendent more...and if they are in a relationship...they will hang out/act out their descendent more...
my question is...what if someone has a planet(s) conjunct their ascendent...would that alter the above idea...for example, that maybe someone with pluto/uranus in virgo conjunct a virgo asc would be pulled into acting/hanging out around their ascendant more even if they are in a relationship...?
or is it possible that the native with the pluto/uranus conjunct asc in virgo would be act out in more piscean ways in a relationship...and the one they are relating to might don the role of the pluto/uranus conjunction...?
i guess i'm basically asking, iyo, do people with strong ascendents tend to have a harder time moving into their descendent...making it harder for them to relate on an intimiate level with another?
clare
i was thinking about how you (antero) said in class that when someone is NOT in a relationship...they tend to hang out/act out of their ascendent more...and if they are in a relationship...they will hang out/act out their descendent more...
my question is...what if someone has a planet(s) conjunct their ascendent...would that alter the above idea...for example, that maybe someone with pluto/uranus in virgo conjunct a virgo asc would be pulled into acting/hanging out around their ascendant more even if they are in a relationship...?
or is it possible that the native with the pluto/uranus conjunct asc in virgo would be act out in more piscean ways in a relationship...and the one they are relating to might don the role of the pluto/uranus conjunction...?
i guess i'm basically asking, iyo, do people with strong ascendents tend to have a harder time moving into their descendent...making it harder for them to relate on an intimiate level with another?
clare
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Re: ascendent question
Tue, June 5, 2007 - 4:38 PMyes, people with strong ascendents tend to have a harder time moving into their descendent...making it harder for them to relate on an intimiate level with another. but not always. there are so many other things to consider, as usual. like the placement of venus, the moon and mars for example.
clare...are you in relationship with someone now who is resisting or avoiding intimacy ? is your question personal to you ? i ask because you may wish to consider your own expectations here especially as they might be symbolized by your 7th House Saturn and its recent activation by return. -
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Re: ascendent question
Fri, June 8, 2007 - 4:20 PMactually, in my current relationship...it is me that is resisting further initmacy...but it is because i am not sure whether this relationship is right for either of us. we are at two very different places in our lives. and i haven't figured out yet what i really need and want in a relationship. although, in the coming months with saturn making the exact return, things will get clearer for me. what this current relationship does offer is a lot of security...(surprise)...
who prompted me to ask the ascendent question was actually my ex...a highly dysfunctional relationship on both sides, and i'm still sifting through the pieces...trying to learn from my past mistakes and fears....
anyway, thanks for offering your opinon on it, antero...
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Re: ascendent question
Fri, June 8, 2007 - 5:08 PMclare
if you had said it was you from the start, i think i may have been more useful. your 7th house saturn symbolizes very high standards of relationship and it is easy, for example (not say you're doing this) to impose or expect those standards to be met by the partner when you have not met them yet yourself. so i would check in with your expectations; define them for yourself. sometimes unspoken expectations can hide related issues of trust vs. distrust. -
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Re: ascendent question
Fri, June 8, 2007 - 5:10 PMPS...as I recall, you have aries south node. that symbilizes serious challenges in relationships as a result of deep history of being more into yourself than anybody else
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