Quasar Red Shift Periodicity

topic posted Sun, May 4, 2008 - 3:24 PM by  Serge
Apeiron, No. 7, Summer 1990 28
© 1990 C. Roy Keys Inc. – redshift.vif.com
(Halton Arp, APEIRON 5, 7)

Quantum causality on an extragalactic scale seems to me prematurely concluded where it is based upon the non-velocity interpretation of quasar red shifts. Arp makes a strong case in Quasars, Red shifts and controversies that quasars are blobs of matter ejected from active galaxies. Taking this hypothesis further leads me to the following conclusions.
To eject quasars, the central galactic machinery must have a mass much larger than quasars. I don’t subscribe to black hole theory, and prefer to call this galactic machine the ‘nucleus’. The nucleus must have reached a critical combination of mass and rotation to split up.
We should find out the energy needed for ejection and ask whether it can be furnished by the energy of rotation of the nucleus. Quasar ejection re-establishes nucleus stability until matter accretion brings it to the next ejection. The nucleus should be alternating between an advanced Jacobi ellipsoidal shape and the Poincaré instability at which splitting is a must. The nucleus rotation speed of active galaxies should be all close to a typical value because of the similar galactic characteristics. The accretion rate of the nucleus is determined by the galactic spirals. The mass-flow velocity in the spirals determines the time period between two quasar ejections. The average ejection period must be typical because of the expected statistical equalities of mass, rotation and accretion rates of all nuclei of active galaxies. The red shift difference between subsequently ejected quasars is determined by the quasar red shift deterioration rate (–z) per unit time and the ejection period T, where z/T = 72 km/sec, with z being the red shift reduction between ejections.
Because quasars are ejected from the strong gravity field of the galactic nucleus, they must have particle conditions with considerably lowered rest mass values. The lowered rest mass of freshly ejected quasars corresponds with the nucleus and not with the gravity field of the quasar. Elsewhere (cf. J.P. Nieland, Optical Aether Theory of Cosmology and Physics), I explain that rest mass reduction is significantly more than gravity theory alone predicts. The abnormally low rest mass makes quasars efficient machines to turn accreted matter into an abundance of light. The lowered rest mass of surface atoms prevents the build-up of an atmosphere, as with stars. Accretion should result in two types of emission, one during accretionary approach and the other immediately after impact. On impact the excess kinetic energy will be shed and contact with surface atoms of abnormal rest mass will produce additional radiation. Internal radiant energy production through baryon annihilation cannot be considered because it would make quasars self-sufficient in re-normalizing the abnormal rest mass. The quasar’s rest mass deficiency can be replenished only by incident radiation.
Quasar red shift cannot be related to luminosity in the normal stellar manner. Since very young quasars have not had the time to bring the accretion into full swing, they will have the lowest luminance and the highest red shift. Quasar luminance should grow with time depending on the opportunity for matter accretion. Quasar ejection into a thin galactic halo causes quasar luminance to grow slowly and preserves the high red shift longer. This may be responsible for some of the deviations in Halton Arp’s quasar statistics.
My quasar hypothesis is based only on the evidence in Arp’s Quasars, Red shifts and Controversies. Other support may exist but it is beyond my reach. Another weak point in the above arguments is the accretion rate of the central nucleus, which depends on the hypothesis of galactic spirals flowing inwards. I have no in-depth knowledge to spiral theories, but can offer my own.
Matter in the galactic disk is subjected to the pull of gravity and outward radiant pressure. Galactic emission of particles as cosmic rays demands an equal inflow of matter in the average galaxy. The galactic disk picks up the returning matter, including gas clouds which have been pushed away by radiant pressure at an angle to the disk. The spiral flow towards the galactic nucleus must equal the outward flow of cosmic rays and gas clouds.
Active stars like the sun have about 10 billion times the surface area of dead stars, they therefore move minutely slower due to gravitation along the spiral arms. The gravity in the spirals keeps all stars close together in a string. In the spiral direction, different velocities must be expected for dead and living stars, the latter being minutely slowed down by radiation pressure. These flow differences should cause dead stars to congregate in the front of the spiral and live stars in the rear. A radiant temperature gradient should be observed across the spiral width.
Halton Arp’s non-velocity quasar red shift therefore implies that quasars are ejected regularly at a time rate which is hidden in the quasar red shift periodicity of 72 km/sec. This periodicity cannot be interpreted as quantum causality.

Joop F. Nieland
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Serge
  • Re: Quasar Red Shift Periodicity

    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 4:06 PM
    I didn't read all of it, but whether or not it is good or bad, it is old (18 yrs). So it doesn't seem to have found much support.
    • Re: Quasar Red Shift Periodicity

      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 4:45 PM
      Yeah,
      I am at school right now, in the library, practicing for a final, and I had this problem where they ask you to find the rate of loss of mass of a Quasar (in solar mass units) if it (the Quasar) radiates energy at 10^41 W.
      I went through the book and couldn't seem to find anything on that part, so, I went "to scavenge" online; and that was one of the articles I dug out.
      So, I posted it as a, sort of, "here's-another-couple-a'-thoughts" like thing.

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