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Projects?

2008-09-17T11:35:10Z

What has everyone been working on as of late?

I recently obtained a copy of "Purses in Pieces", and have been going nuts recreating girdle purses.

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Marrying Into Another Time/Place?

2008-07-14T14:06:45Z

How do you get around the issue of having a period encampment when your persona and your spouse's persona don't match? My fiance is 15th c Japanese and I'm 16th c Turkish. We both want to be more period, but I don't particularly want to live in a Japanese encampment and he has about the same feelings for a Turkish encampment. Do I have to camp by myself to get my way or is there a compromise you all have come up with?

YIS,
Emine

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Looking for Border Reivers

2008-05-12T19:23:59Z

Good afternoon Ladies and Gentlemen

St. Brides of Kildare (aka Army of Dalkieth) is currently recruiting renaissance period soldiers for their Border Horse/Reiver Re-enactment group for the 2008/2009 season..

Currently , we are looking for persons interested in joining us for the Northern California Renaissance Fair in Gilroy California which starts in Sept and runs through October.....

Our group participates in three events per year and has a very family oreinted Inside--- with a Theatrical Rogue/Reiver outercovering---

we also work in a DRAMA Free zone-- making the Theatrical aspect of our art for the audience as opposed to our members

We practice and perform in the art of Military weapons such as
Pike & Lance
Calvary (Prikers and Dragoons)
Black powder matchlock musket and Cannon
Steel Skirmishing

not to mention fine period cooking with modern cuisine----

If you have any interest....... please contact me at halcyoninc@aol.com

I will be more than happy to share information with you on how to join us for our next show in Lake Tahoe CA,

Sincerely,

Chirs Uchman-Douglas

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Period Patterns

2008-02-14T22:32:43Z

I have an idea to start.
As we are all aware, there are plenty of expensive, never go on sale period patterns by folkwear and others. But there are ALSO very close to period patterns by Simplicity and such that only need small alterations to become VERY period. I think we ought to create a site or something for people who want period clothes, but are not that sewing savvy, and need a regular, cheap pattern with easy instructions to follow
example:
Butterick pattern #B4827 is a woman in a cotehardie with princess seams. The idea of princess seams is allowed under the theory of the ten gore dress. The only non-period thing is the zipper. So we could add at the end :do not sew in zipper. some sort of instructions pertaining to lacing holes instead.

I think that we should all compile a list of those patterns and see if we can't get a cohesive site together

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What is "Historical Accuracy" or to be "Period"?

2008-02-12T18:00:56Z

How do you define "Period" in the SCA? How do you determine Historical Accuracy?

I have been trying to decide how my new kit will look and how I will make it as "Period" as possible. Do you have to create your pieces as exact replicas of things found? Does all my metal work have to look like the hand full of photographs you can find in books? Does my trim have to match that of trim found in grave digs?

What if I have studied the metal work and recreated the methods to make a reproduction piece and then using that skill and knowledge and period method I create an original piece? Is this piece "Period? What if I study how card weaving was done during a particular time frame and used these methods and designed a pattern that is not a replica of a found pattern, is this piece "Period"?

Opinions?

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Juried Merchants

2008-02-04T17:03:22Z

There was a discussion on another tribe about offensive garb. This led to a post by a friend, Erik The Bard, Satan from Hell Night at Pentwyvern, who sells corsets. He has been selling at Gulf Wars for a number of years, but this year he was denied merchant space since his corsets were judged by the merchant autocrat to be inappropriate. Just this evening this led me to a thought. I attend a number of juried art shows. Perhaps someone in the SCA ought to jury merchants. For instance if you are a merchant selling turn shoes at an event you could request a visit from the judges. They would peruse your shoes and provide them with a rating, either red, yellow, or green. Red would indicate that they accurately portray an SCA period pattern. Yellow would indicate that they accurately portray and SCA period pattern and are made of SCA period available materials. Green would indicate an SCA pattern, materials, and construction. Of course another ranking system could be devised such as approved, silver, gold, or something of that sort. This would allow judged merchants to hang a sign out front indicating that they sell juried merchandise. The judges could provide a form letter listing the items which had been juried and the rating they received. What are other people's thoughts in this regard?

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authentic "kuchi" pendants

2007-12-29T04:31:56Z

This info will be useful for those who have EARLY period storyline personas.

I have been part of the "half naked tribal women" debates for a while now. We are totally non-period, we know it, and while the general populus doesn't give a crap, there is a decent percentage who think it is bullocks.

I now give to all who love kuchi pendants, an Answer. In SCA the period is technically defined as PRE-1600 western hemisphere. so that includes all the way back to cro-magnon man ,if you really want to. But big dumb men aside, THAT official time definition now allows the inclusion of these wicked awesome "pectoral pendants" from 7thc BC Greece. Although gold only, they have obvious similarities to the highly popular kuchi pendants.

I have posted here only one example of these, as that is the only one I found, when boredly flipping through a mythology book. If anyone feels like searching more, and heavens knows I will, please post them.

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Latest insane Japanese costuming project: The Tosenin Kosode

2007-11-02T21:59:36Z

Please visit http://www.wodefordhall.com/toseninkosode.htm to see what I've been up to.

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Pennsic XXXVI?

2007-08-16T21:13:45Z

Anyone do anything of authenticity note at Pennsic this year?

Our camp made a concerted effort to rid ourselves of nylon chairs and obvious camp mundania (except for our solar squirrel and brown tarp over our woodpile) that went well until War Week when the rest of the camp moved in.

Also, I participated in the accurate accoutrement tournament for rapier on Friday morning and received some decent compliments on my look (including the wooden shoes for trekking through mud) and my fighting explanations and fighting style. woohoooo!

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Packing for the weekend...

2007-07-15T23:44:12Z

Lonely Mountain is this weekend, and I'm ready, so ready to go. One thing that's just not making the trip this time? My folding nylon chair. Someone in another tribe posted a link to a nice rant about the chairs and what he perceives they're doing to the club, and some of the negative effect the 21st century is having on the SCA.

Much of the gist of his commentary had to do not with mundanities but with "peer pressure". Not "Peer pressure", mind you, but the influence we used to have over each other. "Excuse me, m'lord, but would you like a mug to pour your ale into?" That sort of pressure. In the modern era of PC everybloodything, it's now considered boorish to try to pressure others into better behavior, better gear, etc. I wish I could say I disagree with his assertion. I wish I could say that it was still ok to give folks a gentle hard time about their kit and camp, but instead we're expected to be sensative to their needs and failings, and maybe they just can't afford a good scrap of cloth to cover their ice chest or store-bought folding table with.

Now we're expected to do nothing more than "lead by example", show people how cool it is to dress well, have a period tent and period gear for it and the like, but I think this is crap. Well, half crap. Being an example is the carrot, but there needs to be a stick, too. A gentle one, mind you, but a stick nonetheless.

"Excuse me, m'lady, would you like to borrow my spare tablecloth to cover your ice-chest with? They just look so tacky sitting out there in the open like that..."

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Literary references for names

2007-06-25T14:48:55Z

I'm currently trying to get my name passed for SCA use. The name is from a Dutch morality play from the first ten years of the 16th Century and presented in the play as a very common name. The context for the name being mentioned as a very common name is not in a sarcastic context at all and is used as a nickname in the play for a name that is painfully common in research (with a plethora of spellings to choose from).

In researching, I have found a name that sounds like the desired one (but is spelled rather differently with a different meaning) from the 13th C and the desired name being mentioned repeatedly in a family tree after the year 1621.

Now, I know that literary references are generally a big "NO" for names, but I tend to see that as names from non-period literature. How do people feel about period literature as a basis for names (especially when the person submitting the name is able to translate from the original Middle Dutch to modern English to assist the book heralds?)

Just curious.

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Looking for used books

2007-05-11T13:27:19Z

I am looking for the following two books. The first I can not locate at the library or in print anywhere. The second I have found but at a price I can not afford and my local library system can not locate a copy for me to read. If you know of anyone wanting to sell these books used please let me know.

Land of the Tollund Man: The Prehistory & Archaeology Of Denmark
By Palle Lauring
Published 1957
Lutterworth Press
160 pages
Original from the University of Michigan
Digitized Nov 9, 2006

The Cambridge history of western textiles
By David Jenkins
Contributor David Trevor
Jenkins
Published 2003
Cambridge University
Press
Business / Economics /
Finance
1400 pages
ISBN 0521341078

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Ahhh...Venice?

2007-05-09T21:46:26Z

As I was bopping about in renn boy's clothes at a Pennsic Party last year (dressing as a boy did wonders for not being constantly hit on...yay!), a Great Lady who had received a laurel for her work in the realm of cosutming told me an interesting story. She claimed that, in Venice during the renaissance, there was an problem of young women dressing in their brothers' clothing and brawling in the streets at night. And, as a result, sumptuary laws were tightened.

Is anyone else aware of such tales? Maybe you know of where I could go for further clarification or documentation about such things and maybe get at least a documentable decade?

See, there is a tounament held at Pennsic on the rapier field...the "Accurate Accoutrement" tournament and, being a woman who fights, I would love to have a proper, documentable reason why I would be dressed in boy clothes and fighting. I would like to make fighting garb that would properly reflect the location and time for when this issue mentioned very casually by the laurel and be able to present documentation for the tournament (along with a proper fighting style proper to the decade and location).

Thanks!

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period pavilion

2007-05-06T18:31:48Z

I need to make a large pavilion, quickly! aside from sunbrella and sunforger, who do not sell canvas wide enough, where would I procure waterproof canvasof at least 65" wide? any small and overlooked but incredibly necessary applications, like should I respray it with waterproof after I paint it? HELP PLEASE!

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Who do we...?

2007-04-12T05:02:22Z

One of the questions that has come up over and over again here in Calontir (ie: Order meetings, interviews for Kingdom offices, Peer/Associate relationships, etc) is "What can we do to be more period?"

I'd like to propose that question here to see what ideas come up....

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Denmark around 300AD

2007-02-09T16:59:37Z

I know it was not Denmark then, it was J'uski or Jutland. I forget the Greek word for it.

My question is... Can anyone point me to a good source of information on this part of the world. I have been able to find only small bits of information and that is mostly on metal work and ships. I would like to find information on textiles and clothing styles of the area and time. I am also looking for armor of the area. I know there was trade with the Greeks and Romans. It appears that it did not have a history before the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings. Well, not a history anyone is writing about. I take that back the Jutes and Cimbri get a foot note here and there.

Any referances to books? I have not found anything in the public library.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Geek moment of the week.

2006-11-29T01:45:22Z

http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/sc/chaucer/chaucer.htm

Standing in the Huntington Library reading aloud in Middle English
from the Ellesmere Chaucer, specifically the "product warning label"
preceding the Miller's Tale:

"The millere is a cherl, ye knowe wel this;
So was the reve eek and othere mo,
And harlotrie they tolden bothe two.
Avyseth yow, and put me out of blame;
And eek men shal nat maken ernest of game."

Even geekier, from the description of the clerk, Nicholas:
"And al above ther lay a gay sautrie,
On which he made a-nyghtes melodie
So swetely that all the chambre rong;
And angelus ad virginem he song;"

Gaius was laughing at me, but these lines are a significant in-joke I
played at a bardic competition by playing Angelus ad Virginem on the
psaltery. I know at least one person got the reference because she
accosted me about it between rounds.

http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/sc/chaucer/chaucer.htm has a
digital version for your enjoyment.

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Stirring things up.....

2006-09-28T00:36:47Z

In the hopes of actually generating some discussion in this forum, I would like to ask what are your individual specialties? I am rather fond of hand sewing 14th century clothing of the lower middle class. I also enjoy recreating various and sundry leather goods from the same period.

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Hand Carved Feast Gear

2006-08-28T14:38:48Z

Greetings All, I wish to introduce myself and also let everyone interested know that I am a wood carver specialising in traditionaly carved wooden spoons. I would be most happy to help you with any needs you may have in regards to feast gear, whether it be eating, cooking or serving ware. I am happy to accept custom orders and will consider any items you may need created. You may view some of my work at http://canadianwoodcrafts.etsy.com while there be sure to also view my sold items, or more of my work can be viewed in my photo albums on my blog at http://spooncarver.blog.com Thanks Very Much for your time and I look forward to helping you with any hand carved needs you may have.

Wishing You A Wonderful Day
Barry Lee Loewen/Spoon Carver

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Adding web pages - period camp

2006-08-17T18:46:37Z

Hi, all

I'm adding some new web pages to the Companie Golden Lyon site. http://goldenlyon.org/periodcamp.html It's all about an effort to achieve a more period camp. Comments, commentary, and criticism is requested; especially let me know of any broken links. The main page and the linked pages are very much under construction, so changes will be on-going.

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Three Stags

2006-08-08T23:45:00Z

Any interest in attending Three Stags (Denver area)?

Some of Mirianna's concept involves a "merchant's row" where artisans can demonstrate their craft. I'm bringing the period camp kitchen, so there will be period-food-created-with-period-technology going on. Anyone who wants to "play" is certainly welcome. We might even organize a meal amongst interested parties.

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How odd.........

2006-08-02T23:37:12Z

..........I though certain someone would have already created a place for spreading authenticity bug on tribe. I feel like I'm stepping out on a bit of a limb here, and I hope that it will be well recieved. I personally love to do the research and experimental archeaology that come with recreating something that existed in period, but I am kind of an odd duck anyway.......well, I guess we will see what happens.

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We are growing in numbers.....

2006-08-02T23:36:22Z

...this is so good to see. The more folks we have here the better! I am a hungry learner, as I am sure many of you are, and am eager to pick the brains of any willing participants.

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