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Okay my opionion on this, it ain't that bad. I used to have crappy cassette copies of their shows from back in the day and the last two CD releases were a godsend.
There is NO right in this world when even the DKs can't get along. Personally I support Jello AND EB Ray and Co. These guys really need to call a truce since the way things are these days (and since they're still all alive), well, let's just say they're needed.
-tBt
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3/10/04
For Immediate Release:
JELLO BIAFRA APOLOGIZES TO FANS FOR LATEST DEAD KENNEDYS
"DEAF CLUB" FIASCO
I am sorry I have to be the whistle blower yet again. I am deeply embarrassed by the poor quality of their new "Live at the Deaf Club" CD. It could have been a good album. But in my opinion the sound quality and remix are so lame it's not even as good as the versions on "Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death." And those mixes are almost 20 years old. If they really "spent the better part of a year" on this, I wonder what they were really doing most of the time.
I don't think the artwork is as boring as "Mutiny on the Bay," but it doesn't really rock my world either. To me it's a dumbed-down version of the good stuff Winston Smith and I made, but now it seems deliberately designed not to offend anyone. Sad.
I relayed my concerns to East Bay Ray, but as usual I never heard back. I have also been confronted several times at shows by people feeling ripped off by the "Making of In God We Trust Inc." DVD. They said they felt especially burned by only 22 minutes of content, and that the karaoke section was as stupid as the elves (yes, elves) on the cover.
Please, folks, I had nothing to do with this! Like the fake Dead Kennedys "reunion" tours, I did not authorize either of these projects and was not allowed any meaningful input at all. I can't double-check the 22 minutes or whatever because I am not allowed to possess the MVD releases unless I buy them from a store. I have never received copies, or even a contract, from Ray & Co. at all. Nor am I allowed to see all the books.
In 1998 the other ex-Dead Kennedy's filed a vicious lawsuit against me stemming from a dispute that got ugly when I opposed putting "Holiday in Cambodia" in a Levi's Dockers TV commercial. Unfortunately, their lawsuit is still going on. I
maintain my innocence, and am sickened by what they have done to exploit Dead Kennedys once - good name and legacy since. I would like to go into much deeper detail about all this, but our attorneys have asked me not to. Let's just say it is far from over, uglier than ever, with no end in sight.
So please be aware of the mentality behind all current Dead Kennedys releases, and where the money is really going.
If anyone wishes to help in any way, please support the Alternative Tentacles Legal Defense Fund:
Alternative Tentacles Legal Defense Fund
P.O. Box 419092
San Francisco, CA
94141-9092
On the Internet: www.alternativetentacles.com/page.php
PayPal: atldf@alternativetentacles.com
Any and all help is very deeply appreciated.
Lick Bush in '04,
Jello Biafra
There is NO right in this world when even the DKs can't get along. Personally I support Jello AND EB Ray and Co. These guys really need to call a truce since the way things are these days (and since they're still all alive), well, let's just say they're needed.
-tBt
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3/10/04
For Immediate Release:
JELLO BIAFRA APOLOGIZES TO FANS FOR LATEST DEAD KENNEDYS
"DEAF CLUB" FIASCO
I am sorry I have to be the whistle blower yet again. I am deeply embarrassed by the poor quality of their new "Live at the Deaf Club" CD. It could have been a good album. But in my opinion the sound quality and remix are so lame it's not even as good as the versions on "Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death." And those mixes are almost 20 years old. If they really "spent the better part of a year" on this, I wonder what they were really doing most of the time.
I don't think the artwork is as boring as "Mutiny on the Bay," but it doesn't really rock my world either. To me it's a dumbed-down version of the good stuff Winston Smith and I made, but now it seems deliberately designed not to offend anyone. Sad.
I relayed my concerns to East Bay Ray, but as usual I never heard back. I have also been confronted several times at shows by people feeling ripped off by the "Making of In God We Trust Inc." DVD. They said they felt especially burned by only 22 minutes of content, and that the karaoke section was as stupid as the elves (yes, elves) on the cover.
Please, folks, I had nothing to do with this! Like the fake Dead Kennedys "reunion" tours, I did not authorize either of these projects and was not allowed any meaningful input at all. I can't double-check the 22 minutes or whatever because I am not allowed to possess the MVD releases unless I buy them from a store. I have never received copies, or even a contract, from Ray & Co. at all. Nor am I allowed to see all the books.
In 1998 the other ex-Dead Kennedy's filed a vicious lawsuit against me stemming from a dispute that got ugly when I opposed putting "Holiday in Cambodia" in a Levi's Dockers TV commercial. Unfortunately, their lawsuit is still going on. I
maintain my innocence, and am sickened by what they have done to exploit Dead Kennedys once - good name and legacy since. I would like to go into much deeper detail about all this, but our attorneys have asked me not to. Let's just say it is far from over, uglier than ever, with no end in sight.
So please be aware of the mentality behind all current Dead Kennedys releases, and where the money is really going.
If anyone wishes to help in any way, please support the Alternative Tentacles Legal Defense Fund:
Alternative Tentacles Legal Defense Fund
P.O. Box 419092
San Francisco, CA
94141-9092
On the Internet: www.alternativetentacles.com/page.php
PayPal: atldf@alternativetentacles.com
Any and all help is very deeply appreciated.
Lick Bush in '04,
Jello Biafra
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Re: a letter from Jello
Fri, April 2, 2004 - 10:27 PMwhile i think the lawsuit has a lot more to do with royalty rip-off (read the transcripts), putting out dk show albums without even taking a bit of feedback from their original frontperson is just "unacceptable". i've heard a few cool songs from the "deaf club" comp & i dug them yrs ago. ray, klaus, and d.h. really need to be stopped! they are soiling the name of a once brilliant band! -
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Re: a letter from Jello
Sat, April 3, 2004 - 1:52 PMFunny how a "new" DK album surfaces when the sales from the previous album slip.
funny, how none of that material will ever be really new material.
And if the fake dead kennedys are so sure Biafra was fucking them over, ask yourself this: Why haven't any of them re-released their solo records which were also on A.T.
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Re: a letter from Jello
Sat, April 3, 2004 - 4:14 PMYou know Stabb is right...
For he should know being a frontman for over 24 years in many great bands. I mean it is all bullshit. I never knew why they broke up? But I think it had a lot to do with that hideous court battle about the "Frankenchrist" album and Tipper Bore and the oh so stupid PMRC! That was it in 1986 and went their seprate ways. I do not think any of them worked with Jello again after that. So there may be a more of an inside dispute?
Having anyone sing for them is wrong. That is like Brian Baker of Minor Threat taking over the mike for Ian of Minor Threat! Hahahahahahahahahahha!
The "Holiday in Cambodia" was probably the worst/wrong thing that anyone can come up in a PR campiagn for fuckin pants! That song is so bad about what it is about. It has nothing to do with selling pants unless they were being made in India for a bowl of rice a day! Same goes with Iggy's "Lust for Life" which is totally a wrong song to use for selling a product or fun! Using it for holiday cruise on a boat for 70-80 something old folks from Miami, Florida is completely weird!
I wonder if they will ever put it all behind them? And if they do that is when I will support one of my favorite bands, buy these live albums and go see them also.
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Re: a letter from Jello
Sun, April 4, 2004 - 5:58 PMit all boils down to money. Do you think that the other guys in the DKs were thinking about "what the song really means?" All these guys are all in their mid to late 40s, some aren't doing too well trying to irk out a livin'. Here comes the Gap with the $ signs...selling out? Depends. The Ramones did it, the Clash, Iggy, hell, the list will continue to grow.
I say, you can't keep your integrity forever - if you could hold out til you past your 40s. Personally, I got more respect for that. Why should the new school reap the rewards from the old school? Sooner or later it was going to boil down to "punk rock with a charge card." -
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Re: a letter from Jello
Sun, April 4, 2004 - 7:52 PMYou do not understand what I was saying... The song "Holiday in Cambodia" has nothing to do with selling jeans and shouldn't!!!
Jello did not want to use it because of the context of the song and what it is about. It is about The Kiling Fields where thousands of people died under a swine dictator call Pol Pol.
I know what you are talking about people need to eat when in their 40's and they deserve it. Blah, blah, blah. But the next thing you know these stupid people will use it for an "Uncle Ben's" commercial.
There is a time and place for everything.
But that was not the time nor the place or song! They basically got pissed at Jello for he did not want to use the song for a stupid Levis commercial and began to come up with shit to sue.
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Re: a letter from Jello
Mon, April 5, 2004 - 2:29 PMbelieve me, I know what you're saying! it's not that I agree or disagree. I've personally heard the argument from BOTH camps...straight out of both their mouths. For me, it's hard to take sides here.
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Re: a letter from Jello
Mon, April 5, 2004 - 5:23 PMTrue my friend..True.
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Re: a letter from Jello
Tue, April 6, 2004 - 5:17 PMThe way they're talking smack about each other, the allies they're gathering, the battle lines being drawn...damn, talk about Democrats and Republicans.
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Thu, April 8, 2004 - 3:28 PMMAKE RUIN FOR JELLO
The Dead Kennedys-Jello Biafra trial could hold grave consequences for songwriters and record companies
By V. Vale
"After today's jury decision, anybody dissatisfied with lack of sales can sue anyone for lack of advertising," argued Dead Kennedys' vocalist Jello Biafra after his May state court trial in San Francisco. "The jury left the door wide open for an avalanche of frivolous lawsuits without foundation. And if I had known that the 1991 agreement I signed five years after the band broke up--which I thought was for just in case one of us got hit by a truck--would lay the foundation for me being ripped off, I never would have signed it."
Lawsuits always come down to money and control, and the coveted property in question-the six Dead Kennedys albums produced from 1980-1987--may be worth millions, according to the plaintiffs. In October 1998 guitarist East Bay Ray (born Ray Pepperell) hired lawyer Michael Ashburne and led former bandmates Klaus Fluoride (Geoffrey Lyall) and D.H. Peligro (Darren Henley) in a suit against lead singer Jello Biafra, alleging failure to promote back catalog, underpayment of royalties, and other charges. Even though the band broke up in 1986, the albums now sell nearly 100,000 units yearly, accounting for about 50% of the annual income for Alternative Tentacles Records (ATR), a sole proprietorship owned by Biafra. He has never taken a salary, and leaves the day-to-day running of the label to others--hence the current legal problem: as owner, he is solely responsible for any accounting errors or financial agreements.
Biafra doesn't dispute that back royalties were due--they've already been paid--but he finds the "Failure to Promote" charge alarming. Witnesses for the defense (including a bleached-blond Dexter Holland of Offspring) testified that expensive ads for back catalog accomplish nothing and are not standard indie label practice--but this was an opinion. Convincing evidence to the contrary was a simple chart showing Cherry Red Records' U.K. digi-pack rerelease of the band's first album, Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables, which included five bonus tracks. In a month, sales jumped from 5,000 to 15,000 units. This one concrete example sufficed for the jury to grant $50,000 damages for allegedly "lost" sales (the plaintiff's expert witness, Grateful Dead Records' CPA Tim Jorstad, had recommended $375,000).
Should Alternative Tentacles have re-released the DK's entire output in shiny new digi-packs with bonus tracks? Perhaps. But should a jury have the power to decide if an underground band is being properly marketed? It's a bizarre notion. In fact, the whole idea of punk rockers suing each other over copyrights and financial contract details seems antithetical to the spirit of the original movement--especially the anti-corporate Dead Kennedys.
Among early punk bands, written contracts were scarce indeed. Few back then could have anticipated this current clash of cultures: punk rock, with its smash-the-state, hate-the-business-world underground ethic, trying to sort out its codes of honor amidst the music industry's almost-alien legal system involving contracts with their emphasis on trickily-worded clauses.
From their first gig in July 1978, the Dead Kennedys espoused a socially critical, Do-It-Yourself mission statement, critiquing U.K. punk forebearers the Clash and the Sex Pistols for their corporate record affiliations and rock star yearnings. Vowing never to be on a major label, the DKs embarked on a series of grinding worldwide tours which eventually brought them a loyal niche following that endures to this day. Arguably the Dead Kennedys were the first to bring punk rock culture not just to America's hinterlands, but to Italy, Germany, Finland and the former U.S.S.R. as well.
The success of the Dead Kennedys may be attributed to their leader's ingenious guerrilla marketing that, with few expenditures, rapidly built their "brand." In 1979 Jello Biafra (born Eric Boucher) ran for Mayor of San Francisco, finishing fourth and generating a buzz that brought the band nationwide fame, amid protests that someone could run for public office under a name like "Jello Biafra." The 1987 Frankenchrist obscenity trial, with Biafra as sole defendant, engendered international publicity from which all members profited. After the trial, record sales rose rapidly and have continued.
Transcending mere music, the band's albums employed didactic, text-heavy artwork to deliver a full-blown political-punk outlook that helped define a subculture. Even though the Dead Kennedys had broken up in 1986, they became a household name thanks to Biafra's appearances on The Oprah Show and other major media forums. Since then, Biafra's high profile in the press has continued to update and expand the band's legacy and message, helping to maintain back-catalog sales. A now-established icon of political radicalism, he was even nominated by the Green Party as a Presidential candidate, advocating a maximum wage of $100,000 and the banning of SUV's.
If the Dead Kennedys had been a wolf clan, Biafra would be the alpha male, Ray the beta, and the others pack members. Bassist Klaus Fluoride has characterized Ray as "the bean counter," and from 1984 on Ray handled licensing deals and the checkbook, dividing the income between the bills and the band members. Ray asserts that Decay Music was formed as a legal partnership entity; Biafra contends it was never more than a name on a checkbook used to pay bills.
It's difficult to precisely trace how relations between Ray and Biafra deteriorated, but the two were always in competition. Biafra believes the breaking point was reached in 1997 when he vetoed the use of "Holiday in Cambodia" to promote Levi's for a potential $200,000. A written memo submitted as evidence from employee Kristin Lange seems to document Ray and Klaus's approval of this licensing. Biafra feels that this conflict sparked the lawsuit and turned the equanimical Klaus Fluoride against him. Although Ray has said he was not in favor of licensing to Levi's, at trial's end he was showing journalists a Clash interview in which Joe Strummer favorably advocates such "selling out."
What would happen if the Dead Kennedys' music were to reappear on a corporate label and in corporate advertisements, as now seems destined to happen? "If a Rolling Stones' song appears in a Levi's commercial, no problem," said local deejay David Bassin. "But in the spirit of what the Dead Kennedys are all about, this would not be an appropriate venue for use of their music."
At the end of the three week trial, the jury said "Yes" to almost every final question in favor of the plaintiffs. East Bay Ray, who hired lawyers renowned for entertainment litigation, views this as an affirmation of the jury system. Another viewpoint might be: the side with the best lawyers wins.
The wording of the final questions glossed over issues vital to the defense. The very first question, "Do you find on the evidence presented ... that the four members of DEAD KENNEDYS agreed that Decay Music would own the rights to the band's creative works?" needs considerable dissection. To begin with, copyright issues are governed by federal rulings. Both Biafra and Ray have copyrighted entire songs (lyrics/music) as individuals, and there's no written evidence of any transferal of ownership to Decay Music. The plaintiffs' contention is that the group cooperatively and collectively wrote the songs, but out of the band's 76 recorded songs Biafra receives lyrics/music credit for 36, wrote lyrics for 32-only 8 songs give him no credit. Biafra claims that in the majority of instances he came to rehearsals with his lyrics in a state of near-completion and with tunes which he sang A CAPELLA, but the jury ruled against him, probably because he doesn't read music or play an instrument well. (Can the leader/vocalist for a band be credited as songwriter if he does not read or write music and play an instrument? Certainly many blues and folk musicians have been musically illiterate, while such pop artists as Boy George and George Clinton have reportedly sung their songs into tape recorders sans accompaniment and received full copyright protection.)
Another key issue of the lawsuit concerns the nature of Decay Music: is it a partnership operating by majority vote? The jury said yes, which means de facto that the three plaintiffs could dictate all future decisions. A critical meeting occurred on September 30, 1998, in which the three plaintiffs, in the absence of Biafra, voted to take the band's albums away from the Alternative Tentacles label. Despite evidence of heavy scheduling conflicts, the jury ruled that Biafra had been given reasonable notice to attend, even if he had not been informed of the meeting's important agenda beforehand.
Initially, the lawsuit had been launched because the newly-hired Kristin Lange discovered a bookkeeping error in the multiplier used to calculate the Dead Kennedys' royalties. She helped the jury decide that a deliberate cover-up had occurred, based on letters written to lawyer Michael Ashburne by Biafra's personal attorney, Rick Stott. In the letters, Stott denied these monies were due (for technical reasons), and then tried to use them as a bargaining chip to secure a lifetime lease for the five DK's albums on the Alternative Tentacles label. Biafra had read these letters, but also claims he had initially told Stott to "Just pay 'em." Of all the issues in question, this appears to have been Biafra's biggest mistake: going along with the delaying of the payment. According to Biafra there were other factors involved at this time, such as all communication having to go through lawyers, but the jury did not sympathize. These past-due royalties of $76,000 were paid in January, 2000. The jury awarded interest damages as well.
Neither Stott nor Biafra created a favorable impression on the jury, who must always be wooed. An alternate juror who did not attend final deliberations characterized Stott as a "weasel" and Biafra as "caustic, hostile and awkward." The same juror felt that many of the defense's witnesses, including Offspring's Holland, had provided damaging or at least unhelpful testimony. But she also felt that the word "fraud" seemed much too extreme, and that nobody had deliberately tried to defraud anyone else, despite the jury's finding that Biafra had engaged in fraudulent conduct. East Bay Ray was also judged guilty of fraud regarding mismanagement of the business partnership; his penalty was $5,000 as contrasted to the total $200,000 levied on Biafra. The jury also found Biafra guilty of two "malice" charges as their foundation for awarding $20,000 punitive damages, based mainly on the fact that he admitted seeing all of Stott's letters before they were sent, thus granting tacit approval of them, regardless of whether he fully understood all their legal ramifications. (The aforementioned juror felt he had not.)
Although East Bay Ray granted an interview for over five hours, at the end he stated that nothing was for publication. When pressed for a statement, he approved the following summation: "There are certain acts Biafra was put on trial for, and they were found to be wrongful by the jury. The jury decided as to what were the true facts. I feel sorry for Biafra-that he hasn't figured out he made a mistake. It's a tragedy, really. We're just mere mortals, we make mistakes, but our art will outlive all this. The music's bigger than all of this, and a few years from now most people won't remember it ever happened." As cited in his lawyer's closing argument, Ray also wrote, "Biafra, we're going to have to deal with each other for the rest of our lives" as a preface to what Biafra termed a "phantom" offer of conciliation. Ray's gift for homespun phraseology appears to have been remarkably effective upon the jurors.
Probably most distressing to the defendant is the potential loss of control over the band's legacy of albums. "Ray's taken away all that I've worked for for 20 years: the songs I wrote, everything. Why bother obsessively doing creative work and pursuing certain ideals if later on someone will betray you and take it all away from you?"
Dawn Holliday, who books the San Francisco nightclub Slim's, said, "This is not a jury of peers. These people don't have the faintest idea how underground bands and labels work. Did anybody point out that if Jello Biafra had not been out there for the past 14 years, there would have been no income? Those three band members should get down on their knees and thank him."
Neither the plaintiffs nor Biafra have achieved massive commercial success since the band's breakup--the four together had a unique chemistry. Still, is making mega-bucks the ultimate standard for judging success? As leader, Biafra directed the band's anti-corporate career from 1978-1986. But now, seeking "financial justice," the ex-band personnel want to take the Dead Kennedys' recordings and put them up for sale to the most appropriate bidder, possibly leasing songs to corporate ad agencies and Hollywood movie productions as well--something Biafra has always been against. In fact, Ray already licensed the band's cover of "Viva Las Vegas" to the 1997 film Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas without ever asking Biafra.
But, for the moment, this story remains unfinished. Biafra has issued a press statement on the Alternative Tentacles website: "We are going to appeal. The damages awarded for 'lack of promotion' are especially bizarre and potentially very dangerous. If allowed to stand, this will set a precedent whereby anyone whose product doesn't sell as much as they would like, can sue someone for lack of promotion. Dead Kennedys' albums will continue to be available on Alternative Tentacles. Please keep in mind that a few years ago the Philadelphia Fraternal Order of Police was awarded $2 million damages from AT over the Crucifucks album. That too was thrown out of court on appeal." -
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Re: a letter from Jello
Thu, April 8, 2004 - 7:53 PMit's all one big sad mess *sighs* i am really bothered by ray letting their songs (the ones that jello was part of!) be used for a f'n movie or whatever. that's definitely what the dks weren't about to begin with but it's out of jello's hands, right? shit like this where bandmembers take each other to court really makes me sick. screw that "bean counter junkie guitarist" ray!!!
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