chickens

topic posted Thu, May 1, 2008 - 1:12 AM by  offlinematt
We have about 40 hens and 3 roosters. The feed store missed a shipment so now there is no scratch or pellets for us to feed them. Luckily, we get the scraps from the local cafe every day and let them out to forage for a few hours a day. I am thinking about setting out sheet mulch (cardboard) over some weeds for a day or two, removing the board, and setting a chicken tractor on there for a couple of days. Just moving this set up around should help out a good deal with both weeds and getting some good protein into them since the increased moisture is bound to draw up some worms.

Since we are in a feed scarcity, i figure this is a good time to start thinking about growing my own fodder for them. I have looked it up online, but have found nothing that i could plant that would give a constant supply of food for them.

Any suggestions?
posted by:
matt
Hawaii
  • Re: chickens

    Thu, May 1, 2008 - 5:47 AM
    Murray McMurray hatchery used to have some pasture seed that was specially formulated for free range chickens, I don't know if they still have it or not.
    • Re: chickens

      Thu, May 1, 2008 - 7:58 AM
      we are figuring this out ourselves too
      flax, amaranth is good and easy to save an abundance of seed, chickweed
      • Re: chickens

        Thu, May 1, 2008 - 9:43 AM
        i second the amaranth, we are trying it this year. also dandelion, all the lambsquarters type plants, anything that a "normal" person might say, "ugh, what a horrible weed, i can't eradicate it" (though of course stay away from really invasive noxious ones, duh). tomatillos are really prolific and reseed themselves. peaceful valley does have an omega-3 pasture blend, if you have the pasture. fruit trees would be my first step, i have heard of chickens in hawaii living entirely off of fallen fruits (papaya, i think?). also vines, but honestly, 40 chickens is a lot and with any system it will take a few years to really get going, so unless you're feeding a big ol' family, i would consider reducing the flock for a while at least.

        carry on the good work...
  • Re: chickens

    Thu, May 1, 2008 - 11:45 AM
    There's a nursery in Oregon called Silver Falls Nursery or Silver Falls Seeds, something like that. They sell bags of wildlife seed mix (rye, barley, edible wildflowers, etc.) that's supposed to make your property attractive to game birds and deer. Not too expensive, either.
  • Re: chickens

    Thu, May 1, 2008 - 9:54 PM
    Wife and I talked about getting chickens in the future when we get a place. Here in Kuwait most chicken owners let them free range, especially near an ant mound.
  • Re: chickens

    Thu, May 1, 2008 - 11:47 PM
    Here---shilala.homestead.com/supplements.html
    Scroll down to the "Easy Forage Planting Mix" ------

    The Ultimate Natural Forage Mixture for your birds. We have formulated this mixture to provide our growing birds with the greens and protein they need during development, as well as a high protein, completely natural staple when they reach maturity. In it's different stages, it provides a varying level of protein that suits your spring hatched bird's needs. In it's beginning "Freshly Grazed" state, it offers a protein level of 27 to 34%. In it's "Lush Growth" stage, it provides a protein level of 20 to 27%. In it's "Flowering and Seeding" stage, it provides a protein level of 8 to 13%. If you believe in a "natural" approach when it comes to providing nutrition for your flock, this mixture is an excellent addition to your program.
    Grow some this spring, your birds will love you for it!!!
    Formulation:
    Early Corn 23.25%
    Buckwheat 9.9%
    Black Oil Sunflower 7.35%
    Early Grain Sorghum 5.9%
    Japanese Millet 2.95%
    Climax Timothy 7.45%
    Creeping Red Fescue 7.35%
    Mammoth Red Clover 6.45%
    Alsike Clover 5.95%
    Hardy Brand Alfalfa 5.95%
    Aubisque Tetraploid Perennial Rye 4.9%
    Potomac Orchardgrass 3.8%
    Medium Red Clover 2.95%
    Birdsfoot Trefoil 2.45%
    Ladino Clover 1.95%
    Planting:
    This seed mixture is formulated to produce nation-wide. Planting time in Zone 5 is May 1 to June 1. Planting times in other zones vary, you'll need to make an adjustment for your specific zone. Germination is 10-21 days. Establishment comes in 5-10 weeks. Seed over tilled, smoothed soil for best results, but will also work in a broadcasting situation. Seeding rate is 1 ounce to 100 square feet. As with all crops, soil should be tested and adjusted for nutrient levels and ph.


    This is a pretty good place to start; you also might want to look at www.lionsgrip.com/recipes.html ...and if that's not sufficiently helpful, I'll go start dragging books off the shelf. :-)
  • Re: chickens

    Sat, May 3, 2008 - 11:56 PM
    My next question is once the growing season is over-how do you keep food for them during the winter? I live almost at the 2,900 ft so our winters are long and cold with occasional snow. I could see the use of those preivously mentioned weeds once they to seed. How about their long term storage?
    Scratch too...? Somethings to think about indeed.
    • Re: chickens

      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 9:35 AM
      I live up at about 4,700 feet. Utah has a pretty short growing season.

      One thing that chickens love, is any veggies, peels, corn cobbs, cereal, and other leftovers from the house. Give em your leftovers. Stems from your peppers, peels from your potatoes, yogurt that's gone bad, gosh you can throw just about anything in the chicken pen, they'll go nuts for it. The more variety, the better the eggs.
      • Re: chickens

        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 9:50 AM
        My grandma used to give excess milk to the chickens and they seemed to like that.
        • Re: chickens

          Sun, May 4, 2008 - 1:17 PM
          I'm not sure if chickens are technically omnivores... but I think they are? Anyways our chickens would eat meat if you gave it to them. Pretty much they'll eat anything that looks different in their little pen. Eating strange things is their only enjoyment in life, it occupies their entire psychology. They love watermelon rines, bits of ground beef, of course old oatmeal or any bugs they happen to find.

          They're really not hard at all to feed, if you think about it. Keep some chicken feed on hand, and keep a bucket for leftovers in the kitchen, take it out to the chickens every day. They'll be happier, healthier, and mentally stimulated. The eggs will taste really great.

          I've never raised chickens for meat. Egg chickens, I can tell you, taste horrible if you try to eat them.

          What's a good breed for meat AND eggs? Anybody know?
          • Re: chickens

            Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:49 PM
            Hard to go wrong with Orphingtons; buff seem to be the most commonly available ones, but the come in other colours. Plymouth Rocks are good dual purpose birds, too; folks are most familiar with the Barred Plymouth Rock, but they also come in other colours (my friend has four White Rocks right now; were supposed to be pullets but one's a cock! SWEET!). Dominiques are harder to find, but good dual purpose birds and are American originals. I've had Speckled Sussex many years ago; very pretty, nice dual purpose bird but a little on the light side. In your climate, I'd highly recommend Jersey Giants; they are massive birds (cocks are expected to be 13 lbs, hens 10 lbs!) and are known to be good layers in cold weather, which usually slows other chickens down even if you put them on a timed light. Besides, the breed needs conservation. Further info on the importance of such is here; www.feathersite.com/Poultry/...eded.html If you want to burn a couple of hours, :-D go wander through www.feathersite.com/Poultry/...#Chickens for more info and pics on breeds of chickens than you ever knew existed.
    • Re: chickens

      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 8:44 PM
      I live in Hawaii at 1500 ft. Luckily we have a year-round growing season and the birds do not have any cold weather requirements. We have a TON of wood chips all over the place for mulch and walk paths so the chickens have that to scratch around in. The chips really attract worms too!
  • Re: chickens

    Sun, May 4, 2008 - 10:20 AM
    I've got a chicken on my hat
    I've got a chicken on my shirt
    chicken wing's on my chest
    when the pin stuck it hurt

    I've hauled them chicken's to hunt's point and L.A.
    If you see me on the big road
    get out of my way

    I've gotta go fast cause I cant go slow
    I'm just doing my job
    I'm on the poultry patrol

    well I like chicken soup
    but I dont like chicken coop's
    and I can speak chickeneese
    and I can dance rooster too
    and I eat chicken sometimes twice a day
    2 eggs for breakfast and then the buffet
    I've gotta go fast because I cant go slow
    I'm just doing my job
    I'm on the poultry patrol.

    whoop whoop
    • Re: chickens

      Sun, May 4, 2008 - 2:12 PM
      I wish I could hear the tune to that.
      • Re: chickens

        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 4:10 PM
        When I clean my fish I throw them the guts and they eat the stuff as fast as I can throw it to them. It don't seem to make them taste any different.

        I like Buff Orpingtons, they are a dual purpose breed.

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