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I've been keeping a list of things I no longer have to buy at the store. It feels good to be at least partially self sufficient.
Things I haven't bought in over a year...green beans, potatoes, salad greens, tomatoes, thyme, oregano, rosemary, peppers, and field peas.
Things I haven't bought in 6 months or more...soup, canned fruit and salsa.
I'd love to have chickens for the eggs but haven't done it yet.
What sort of self sufficiency are you working towards? Have you learned any new skills this year that you'd like to share?
I'm finding that raised beds stay warmer so I can grow things longer into the fall.
Things I haven't bought in over a year...green beans, potatoes, salad greens, tomatoes, thyme, oregano, rosemary, peppers, and field peas.
Things I haven't bought in 6 months or more...soup, canned fruit and salsa.
I'd love to have chickens for the eggs but haven't done it yet.
What sort of self sufficiency are you working towards? Have you learned any new skills this year that you'd like to share?
I'm finding that raised beds stay warmer so I can grow things longer into the fall.
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 1:50 PMWell we live in the city. We have a corner lot and two raised beds for our vegetable. We also started growing potatoes in barrels this year. We are pretty much self sufficient when it comes to veggies. We put up alot of salsa and tomatoes each year. Our onions last in the fridge for a long time. We haven't had enough green beans to put up...as we eat them all during the summer and early fall.
We are growing more herbs in pots and planters this year. Planting them at staggered intervals gives up fresh herbs until late fall.
Some of our neighbors keep chickens...but we aren't that ready yet. It is nice getting fresh eggs now and again.
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 3:00 PMThat's so cool, Chuck. Please tell me more about growing potatoes in barrels. I have some in a trash can. They look pretty green but no blossoms yet. -
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Sun, November 8, 2009 - 11:47 PMWe use half wine barrels, perforated at the bottom for drainage. Rocks line the bottom and soil is placed a little more than half way to the top. We used the eyes of red potatoes in one barrel, and Yukon golds in the other. When the plants come up three inches or so, we add more soil around the plant. This continues until the blossom wither and the leaves start to die back. We then dig up the taters. Two to three plants per barrel are the max. Any more plants and you will get very small spuds...tasty but small.
After we pick them, we allow them to dry a bit in a dark place. In a day or so, they're ready to eat. We keep the dirt on them until it's time to cook them. No reason...just an old wives tale about keeping them fresh. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 5:03 AMDoes it take longer for fall potatoes to mature? I'm just wondering because the sunshine doesn't seem as intense and it's taking longer for my salad greens to get large. -
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 7:18 PMfall potatoes grow slower and tend ro be a little denser, thats why they keep thru winter the best
if you plant your taters in straw you can tip back the straw and get the tubers anytime without killing the plant
also dont over fertilize your taters, the vines grow beautifully, the tubers do not
i have a theory that the tubers are a natural reaction to poor soil so the plant has food stored for next season
where theres lots of food for them, they dont grow tubers,not nice big ones anyway
potatoes are a perennial, if you grow them in the straw you can just leave them a couple small tubers to feed from and they will keep right on growing for you
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 10:44 AMWe're working on becoming as self sufficient as possible. We were lucky to find a flat 1/4 acre lot in city limits. Fortunately it's mild enough here where we can grow crops all year. We have a small orchard now (about 18 different fruit trees not old enough to produce much yet though). We have three 4' wide X 75' long beds for veggies and plan to put in three more. We have 11 chickens right now. 5 of which are too young to be laying yet and 2 of which are too old now to be consistent layers.
We make all of our own bread, tortillas, crackers, preserves, pickles, canned veggies, preserves, yogurt, beer, hard cider, etc. from scratch. I'm hoping to soon start making my own vinegar as well.
Right now we basically just buy meat and supplemental veggies. We had an issue this year with our well, so our crops didn't do so well. -
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Mon, November 9, 2009 - 11:00 AMWhile I make a lot of my own, I like to trade as well. I know that I can't make it all, but there are folks who want what I make and I want what they produce, so I am beginning to think that when I say I want to be self sufficient I think that I misspeak. What I really mean is that I want to be less dependent on the big bureaucratic structure that exists. I like that we are at the core interdependent and can share our skills and resources.
Blessings
Linda
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 5:57 AMGreat Job Yadda Yadda!
If i didn't grow it, i get it from the CSA. (I work for one CSA and by from another- which i deliver for so i get a discount) - so Veggies, fruit, eggs, meat, bread, and sometimes pasta, some condiments, honey- all come from that)
and if its not in season, i just don't eat it. (of course- trader joes dumpster in Nashville has supplemented with out of season stuff once in a while. thank you trader joes nashville.) - so for example right now- apples and muskidines are my main fruit. (and maybe some frozen blueberries from earlier in the year.)
I think this keeps me pretty self sufficient. the list of what I Don't provide is shorter and easier to work on. - like peanut butter, cow's milk (which next year will be local) - i want to figure out this winter how to make mayo, mustard, ketchup.
The exciting thing- i'm learning to make and will be a franchise for Booya Cacao here in middle TN soon! Basically the best chocolate i've ever had. The cacao is from Nicaragua co-ops- but... we are going to try and sail it up here, and use bio diesel the rest of the way - and we keep it local as it can get. so soon i can provide chocolate (and trade for stuff with it or sell it) to people locally.
I mastered my own ferments this year! that was huge for me. So that cabbage, carrots, beets, raddishes, etc. you name it- i can have it- in January! thats pretty exciting to me.
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as for other non food items-
my partner has been mastering making his own wool, knitting etc. I've been organizing and decluttering for people- so i get a lot of hand me downs. I have only bought 7 new things in the last 3 years. :) - i made this committment not to buy anything NEW. been working great so far.
And my big goal is to work towards not entering back into the generic work force. To be self employed- have a couple of shoe string businesses, and have some freedom with my time. I've been doing it a year and so far so good. :)
I have a big list of other stuff i want to master this winter- Cheese! Herbal medicine knowledge- which i'll work more on in Spring, and making furniture. :) -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 6:20 AMWow, you all are amazing. I found a place that sells raw milk but they're a half hour drive away so I'll have to give it more thought. Making mayo is easy but it doesn't have much shelf life. Wouldn't it be great to make a batch and split it up among friends?
I would loooove to learn to make cheese. Like everything homemade the flavor is incredible! I have made butter but we eat so little butter anyway that most of it goes to waste. -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 8:54 AMA few thoughts on your post. Butter can be frozen and kept for long periods of time, also a butter bell will keep butter for quite a while too. And with mayo if you ferment it by place a little whey into it, it will last longer. I actually make a cultured cream and use that in place of mayonaise. That also has a longer shelf life in the refrigerator. Also I teach cheese making classes, not sure where you are but if you pm me I can let you know where I am teaching.
Blessings
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 5:59 PMcan you give us a recipe/ directions to that cultured cream? or to your mayo with whey? that sounds EXCELLENT!
Thanx!
and good idea with the butter- freezing it... didn't think of that. My friend is bringing a butter churn on thursday for me to check out. Never done it but i'm excited! -
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 6:16 PMThe cultured cream can be made two ways. I use a piima cutlure which you would have to purchase on line or you can buy cutlured buttermilk at the store and use that as a starter. Simply put a few tablespoons in heavy cream, I use cream from the top of farm fresh milk, but you can also purchase heavy whipping cream. Let the cream with the cutlure sit for a day or two, until thick then churn into butter.
As for the mayo, just add a Tablespoon or two of whey to your mayo and let it sit on the counter for a day or two. Then refrigerate.
Have fun churning butter, it is a blast and delicious to boot. There is no going back to store bought once you make your own.
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Wed, November 11, 2009 - 4:16 AMcool! If you make your own butter can you use that buttermilk for the culture? -
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Wed, November 11, 2009 - 7:58 AMIf it is raw and contains bacteria that will culture the cream.
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 11:58 AMPicking blackberry leaves for drying. The tea is excellent for severe runs or even dysentary. Picking the rose hips for rose hips syrup. Picking comfrey leaves and root for salve and oils.
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Thu, November 12, 2009 - 11:35 PMGood to know Chuck. We've got blackberries in our yard. If only I had known about them a couple of months ago when I had a viral infection. We're getting a rugosa rose for the hips. What is the hip syrup good for? We have comfrey. I used to use it to sooth my dog's skin when she had really bad allergies to fleas. -
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 9:06 AMI use the rose hips syrup for my homeless clients who invariably need vit-C in high doses. Some of them are paranoid and won't take vitamin pills or even orange juice (which really isn't that high in C after processing). But home-made syrup goes down quickly. Also it makes a nice pancake syrup. -
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Fri, November 13, 2009 - 12:25 PM<I use the rose hips syrup...>
Wow. Wasn't Nostradamus famous for his rose hip & lemon cough drops back during the Plague?
I guess some things never stop being good for you.
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 7:00 PMi remember reading someplace that blackberry leaf tea was an abortificant, might wanna look into that
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 7:03 PMnatural buttermilk and what you buy in the store are 2 very diiferent things, one is very skimmed milk the other is a cultured milk
natutal buttermilk is more like whey, its just whats left after you take the far out of cream
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Tue, November 10, 2009 - 6:03 PMOnly 1/4 acre, but the weather is ideal for 4-season gardening, and the dwellings do not take so much space. We provide all our citrus and more to give away, make into marmalade, frozen juice or wine. Some of the trees are very old. Other fruit are figs (already have 10 lbs dried and still going!) and peaches. Peaches did not produce this year though. Our freezer and pantry are packed with preserved garden produce, so we are slowing down the annual production and trying to introduce berries, and more artichokes. More perennial crops, i am thinking asparagus too.
I grow all of my green beans, lots of shellies, and some dried beans. As far as grains, corn is the only reasonable one, even though i love amaranth for greens. If need be, lots of stuff in your pantry will sprout. I have perennial squash, perennial beans, and perennial peppers. I have plants in the garden that i would know to eat the roots of, others would not.
I let a lot of plants go trough their whole life cycle, and self seed. I collect the seed, and get volunteers at the right places. The flowering versions will attract beneficials in most cases.
I have all culinary herbs except for dill. For some reason i cannot grow it but i would love to. I will be planting some medicinals soon, starting with valerian and purple cone flowers, not sure if they grow here.
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 6:58 PMi cn get you a cottage cheese recipe, weve used it for years on the farm
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 7:06 PMwhen you make your butter. give it some extra salt, pack it in an old ceramic crock in layers of good clean salt, itll keep a good long time with no refrigeration
most meats can be packed the same way, cured or uncured
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Wed, November 18, 2009 - 7:11 PMraised beds are awesome things, i usethem even tho ive plenty of land, they thaw out earlier and stay useable longer in the fall
but, be sure your bedframing is not toxic
treated wood leaches heavy toxins into your soil and your veggies pick them up
and guess where they go when you eat them........
if you want wood framing use white oak, white ash, cypress or red cedar
stone or concrete last much longer
also watch PVC's and plastics, they leach toxins as the deteriorate