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I have bottled fruit and jam before and am interested in preserving more ....veg perhaps? How easy is it? and how do I go about this? Any tips would be apriciated .....
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Re: How to can?
Wed, May 27, 2009 - 1:51 PMCheck out Chucks post "extreme frugality " In it he gives a short synopsis . He mentions the "Bell " book of canning ( however there is also a ball book of canning . Ball being the Co. that makes jars and other canning supplies . ) I saw where Ace Hdw. ( a high cost store in my mind! ) had a canning kit priced between $50 and $60 . -
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Wed, May 27, 2009 - 2:37 PMI have the Ball Book of Canning and it's...ok. Some of the recipes are good, some taste not-so-great. I want to get my hands on the Bell book and see how they are.
It all depends on what you plan on doing in regards to equipment. Pickling is easy, but when you get to just canning veggies you will need to get yourself a pressure canner. I have a large Presto Pressure Canner that I picked up for $80, but I do a lot of canning so I require a large canner. -
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Wed, May 27, 2009 - 3:32 PMYep .... pressure for sure is needed for Non acid veg.'s Have you ever seen a real canner that uses can's ? Mom had one and as a boy ( back in the 50's ) It was my job to turn the crank and seal the cans ! -
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Wed, May 27, 2009 - 8:44 PMI've considered doing real cans until I realized the can sealer was $400! Right now, I just can't afford that. Not to mention the cans are kind of hard to find. -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 12:04 AMPlus most cans use a plastic coating that is toxic - either BPA (bisphenol A) or phthalates.
Not good for long term storage of food.
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 2:10 AMI would rather bottle, I have used this for fruit , and not sure I'd like 'real cans'....... -
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 4:02 PMgo to www.homefoodpreservation.com
It's the USDA extension service website. They offer an online class in food preservation; they also list where your local extension office is, offer books for sale, and so on.
I signed up for the online class, but I'm also going to take the pressure canning class my local extension offers; I grew up with my mom canning but I only really remember the water bath stuff and I've never tried pressure canning as an adult until this year. DH says I don't need the class but I will feel better having had some hands on experience with an expert before I foray out on my own with that.
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Re: How to can?
Thu, May 28, 2009 - 4:16 PMThe Ball Blue Book of Preserving has good technique information, but I'm not fond of their recipes (being an SF bay area foodie and all)...so make up your own better recipes, can the stuff using the book's guidelines, or even check out/contribute to this tribe for some great info:
tribes.tribe.net/thecannin...peexchange
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Thu, May 28, 2009 - 4:20 PMwith my background i should be the encylcopedia of canning. But, lazy me, I've left that up to my grandma.
The mormon 'ward canneries' sometimes will let others in, where you have access to wholesale bulk foods as well as the big fancy 'can' canners. -
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Sun, May 31, 2009 - 8:01 AMWe are learning this summer and will be canning our garden this harvest. -
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Sun, May 31, 2009 - 9:58 AMhey everyone! I'm new here and new to this process as well, how long can you keep your veggies in a jar before it goes bad? -
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Sun, May 31, 2009 - 10:12 AMIf properly canned, you can keep them for several years before they go 'bad'...
They don't really go bad or sour or rotten (unless canned improperly), they just slowly lose their nutritional value. you can usually see through the glass and tell if they're starting to come apart and look bad. You can still eat them, and they'll still taste the same, but the texture will be much softer, come apart easily in your mouth, and I doubt they would have much nutritional value to your body anymore. -
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Sun, May 31, 2009 - 11:58 AMI am terrified of poisoning everyone with botulism!!!!! -
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Mon, June 1, 2009 - 4:15 PMgenerally 'bad' cans are pretty easy to detect. Bacteria, if there are any alive in the can, will make gasses as they live, grow, and multiply. This will soon ruin the vacuum seal on the lid, causing it to 'pop' outward. If allowed to progress more, the jar could burst.
Generally the principle behind canning is simple. if you elevate the temperature of the can, as well as every single part of it's contents down to the core, to a minimum temperature of 155*F to kill all the bacteria. As long as the lid is sealed and no contamination gets in, the cans will be completely sterile inside. And sterile means sterile. absolutely zero live bacteria as long as the seal remains intact.
Most canning recipes are done at temperatures much higher than 155*F minimum borderline. boiling water is another 50 degrees higher, but the right ammount of time must be used in order to ensure the cool core of the stuff being canned will achieve a safe temperature before you take it out of the heat. Pressure cookers allow a much higher temperature to be achieved, reducing this cook-time dramatically.
The ammount of time a veggie or other food spends at high temperature will dramatically affect it's nutritional value (causes early breakdown), as well as it's cellular integrity (tastes 'flat' or texture is soggy or just plain comes apart), which is why most recipes have been worked to provide the least ammount of cook time while still providing a suitable safety margin. Pressure cookers are best for this generally, and will produce much better, fresher tasting goods (cooked for less time) while still getting them hot enough to be safe.
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