Predominant Dance Style?

topic posted Thu, January 11, 2007 - 5:00 PM by  Unsubscribed
Just wondering if our predominant style here, whatever that is, is any different than on the coasts. If you dance/teach multiple styles, is one more successful than another? If so, any ideas as to why?

I suppose that means figuring out if there *is* a predominant style here in our neck of the woods.....is there one in your area? Do you fit in? Are you a ground-breaker? Is it working/not working?

Inquiring minds and all that....
Amina
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  • Re: Predominant Dance Style?

    Thu, January 11, 2007 - 7:45 PM
    My predominant style is American Classic (what lots of people call American cabaret, but I don't like that term) and folkloric styles of North Africa and the Middle East. I would say that Egyptian style is secondary for me.

    Here in Iowa City, the other dominant teachers are Maleeha and Farida. They both focus on Egyptian style. There's another teacher in the area whom I've spoken to on the phone but never seen in person so I don't know her style, but I'm guessing it's probably Egyptian because her teacher was Dahlena's daughter.
  • Re: Predominant Dance Style?

    Fri, January 12, 2007 - 8:56 AM
    Something I learned long ago that I think could pertain as much to our dance stylings as much as anything else.

    Things aren't nearly as slow now, with internet access, availability of videos and DVDs, easy access to books and bookstores, etc. But there was a time this just wasn't so; we had to wait for things/ideas/concepts from the coastal areas, like NY, San Fran, LA, etc. to filter over to the Midwest. This could apply to dance, fasion, hairstyles, alternative religion studies, whatever. Well, it's easy to get darn impatient with all that waiting, so we Midwesterners tend to take what "classics" or "traditions" that we know of, and throw in additional stuff too - wow, sounds like we're making hotdish.

    Anyway, you'd think that with diverse populations in such large cities such as NYC or LA that they'd corner the market on being eclectic, but I think we'd either beat them or at least give them a serious run for their money. As such, I think one of our predominant styles is fusion. Cabaret fused with just a touch of modern, ATS fused with flamenco, bunches of styles fused bunches of other styles.

    Overall, we eager to learn and we don't always want to wait for stuff to "filter" to us, so we take charge ourselves. This is not a bad thing at all. Most people I know are pretty good about being honest and saying, "No, this isn't exactly traditional, but it's close. I just added some stuff to make it better/cooler/different."

    I don't know if one style is more successful than another, as a lot depends on the teacher as well as who you get for students. I am a Wiccan, following an earth-based religion. Tribal style dance is huge with this population because the dance style is much more earth-based than cabaret and has more freedom and eclectic styling than formal historical or folkloric dances. But cabaret is great too! It just taps into an oh-so-slightly different target audience. Yes, there is a lot of overlap too - don't get me wrong. My point is that there is no answer because success depends on who you can get together for teacher and student. With the right gathering of like-minded people, almost anything can be successful.
    • Re: Predominant Dance Style?

      Fri, January 12, 2007 - 10:37 AM
      "wow, sounds like we're making hotdish"

      Teehee--ouch...;-) For those of you who know confused by the term "hotdish", it's casserole other places. (I was soooo confused when I first moved to Minneapolis--I'd thought a hot dish was a warming plate and I could not understand why people talked about it like it was something you'd eat....)

      As far as filtering...well, why *should* we wait for things to filter to us? Certainly we shouldn't assume that people here are any less creative than people on the coasts simply because we can't see the ocean. Let stuff from here filter out to the coasts too, I say. ;-)

      As to Amina's original question...here's my take, but I speak only for my own perception...

      My sense of the Minneapolis-St. Paul market is that it's definitely mixed and eclectic. There is a good Egyptian style community here, and also some Lebanese and American-classic and some fusion of those types with spanish, modern dance, and theatrical dance. Many teachers/dancers who have a lot of respect for those traditions and try to be well-versed in them, even if they do some fusion--a "know the rules before you break them" mentality. (Aside: Shira--I'm with you on the term cabaret. It means something veeeery different and specific in some places and cultures. In some cases, those perceptions of the term "cabaret" are much closer to burlesque or go-go dancing in tone than what most belly dancers that some call "cabaret dancers" do.) There is also a good tribal community in the metro and outstate Minnesota, but it's been different from a lot of the coastal tribal--both in feel and in costume. (Though with the rise of BDSS we're seeing a bit more of the "glam-tribal", solo-tribal, and Rachel Brice style than we did just a couple of years ago.) There used to be some strong Turkish pockets here, but they're less evident right now.

      The largest schools in Mpls seem to teach a generalized "raks sharki" style (a mix of Egyptian, Lebanese and American-classic styles) with some folkloric content thrown in from time to time. There is, however, a program here that has teachers who do raks sharki but also ATS-fusion, and so their program may have a little more bent in that direction--I'm not sure. :-)

      I've had the chance to get to know the Milwaukee scene in the past year...it's a little more segmented than Mpls. Here we have different styles and tastes, but I get the sense there's more cross-over between people/groups and a little more respect for the different styles and tastes than there is there...but a.) I don't know that that is actually true and b.) If it is, it's probably mainly because the Mpls community is a little older (the community is older not the dancers in it...) and a little more in contact with one another b/c of our Guild of Oriental dance.
      • Re: Predominant Dance Style?

        Thu, February 8, 2007 - 2:50 PM
        Mostly responding to the comment about respect in the Milwaukee area for different dance styles....I am way too new to the scene to really know, but the sense I am getting so far, is that the Milwaukee scene must be maturing, because there seems to be a lot of networking between dancers and a lot of different workshops, at studios offering classes other than what the workshops are for. I can't keep track of them all.

        Dancers have the opportunities to learn each other's styles, and things like that, but I think that dancers are tending to pick a style and go with that. I am taking American Tribal Style Classes, and I am way way new, so maybe I am totally misinterpreting things. But, all the dancers I have met all seem very warm and welcoming and I can tell through all the tribes here on tribe.net, that there is definitely a community that I am glad to be a part of, especially since it seems to be expanding regionally as well as through statewide areas.
        Keep up the good work!