Fluidity?

topic posted Wed, March 26, 2008 - 7:07 AM by  Faedra
What DVD's, dance styles, stretches, or exercises should I do to really work on my flexibility and fluidity?
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Faedra
Raleigh
  • Re: Fluidity?

    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 10:55 AM
    What type of dancer are you? If you dance tribal (in..any form) I would definately suggest Rachel Brice. She is very very VERYYYYYY fluid. Even if you don't dance tribal, I would sugest watching her clips on youtube and perhaps getting her BD/yoga DVDs.
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    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 11:17 AM
    Right now I'm everything. I haven't really decided what style(s) I want to do yet! I've ordered Ms. Brice's "Arms and Posture" but I was wondering what else was out there?
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    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 12:22 PM
    I highly recommend Kassar's Fluid Precision.
    www.kassartribal.com/Instruc...ideo.htm
    They do a great warm-up that works on a dancer's strength and flexibility. The combos are really put together well and are great to add to your box of tricks whether you do tribal, cab, fusion etc.
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      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 12:28 PM
      Yes, this video has helped me alot in terms of weaving moves together. There are some really great combinations in there too.
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    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 12:41 PM
    Agreed! Aside from working on your body's flexibility & strength, I have a visualization exercise that might be helpful for fluidity...

    Take some time in your practice to work on simple movements to music, but envision that you are underwater. As we swim, we all have looked down at our bodies and are amazed at how beautifully fluid we are, without even trying. Without that water, it is harder to achieve that flow. Muscle control will come with time as long as we keep up repetition in practice. Mimic that feeling; move through the heavy water, *surrender* to every movement & focus, don't rush. The mind aids our body so much as we dance, and can really help us visualize and improve our techniques.
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    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 3:54 PM
    One of the things I work on to increase my "fluidity" (I hope I'm using that word the same way you are) is to try to think of the movements I'm doing as a long chain, instead of a set of things to do one after the other. I practice the movements between each movement - so if I'm going from, say, a set of hip drops on the right into a basic Egyptian, I try to practice the transition itself over and over, to make sure I'm aware of where my arms should be going, my feet, my weight, and etc. So instead of just moving from one into the other, I "flow" through the transition in a pleasing way. Hope that helps, or even makes sense!
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    Wed, March 26, 2008 - 4:03 PM
    Hi, two DVDs I have that focus on practicing fluidity are Sultry Slow Moves with Sadie produced by IAMED and Sensual Belly produced by World Dance New York. They're both good, although the IAMED video is a bit pricier. The Sensual Belly Dance DVD has a cheesey cover that might throw you off, but it has a lot of content and a great practice session.
    • Re: Fluidity?

      Wed, March 26, 2008 - 4:45 PM
      Another great trick is to take a circular movement -- any kind of figure 8 or circle -- and slooooooowwwww it down to be as slow as you can possibly go without actually stopping. Do a horizontal figure 8 with the hips and take 32 counts to finish each side, for example. This becomes both a movement meditation and also tells you where your posture gets out of control or where you need to stretch more.
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        Wed, April 16, 2008 - 2:25 PM
        I agree with everyone else. :) Want you want to do is really visualize the connections between your muscles and pass the movement through each one.

        I used to do a visualization technique with my students that I called "passing the energy ball."

        First I used to turn down the lights and put on some slow calm music, so they could really "get into: themselves.

        Start with your hands in front of you, and imagine a ball of energy (about the size of a tennis ball) floating between your hands. Start passing the ball back and forth (slowly and with little movement) using your hands by undulating one and then the other. Really concentrat on the energy passing from one hand to the other via the imaginary ball.

        Then when you have really connected with the movement and forgotten everything else around you, take the energy into one hand. Feel the energy in your fingers, your knuckles, then your palm and wrist. When you are comfortable with this, pass the energy up into the forearm then thru the elbow, up the arm, slowly feeling all the muscles as you pass thru them on your way up to your shoulder. Then pass the energy back down the arm, muscle by muscle. Keep going back and forth really feeling the energy as it passes thru each muscle.

        Then take the ball up into your shoulder and continue to move it thru your muscles in any direction you choose, keeping the connection as you go. Play with it! You can pass it up and down your spine (undulations), thru your hips (cirlcles, fig 8s ect), and your chest or other arms, even take it down into you legs... just remember to keep the energy ball in your mind so you don't loose it. In other words if you want to do a hip movement followed by a chest movement, remember to move the energy FROM the hips UP TO the chest before engaging the chest. :)

        Hope that helps, I know it really helped me connect. :)
        • Re: Fluidity?

          Sat, April 19, 2008 - 4:55 AM
          I would, really, really learning a brake dance style called "liquid." www.youtube.com/watch <---- not the best quality, but if you watch the guy, you'll get what i mean =)
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            Mon, April 21, 2008 - 9:10 PM
            You might want to check out some of Zoe Jakes' stuff. I was just at Elevation in Colorado where she taught a pop/lock stylization class where she emphasized the use of pops and locks like the man in the video, along with why it is important to be that smooth and liquid along with it. She was amazing in her discussion of using recoil in your movement to help maintain that fluidity. I was amazed at the end of the class. I am so ready to start using those concepts myself.

            Check her out. She actually spent several years studying break dancing techniques and has modified them to fit in with bellydance movements and styles. You will enjoy watching her.

            Trish
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          Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:32 AM
          Girl, you are doing real energy work...if you can visualise this strongly...and really feel that 'ball' of energy, then you're on your way to becoming a very spiritual being...if you're not already, I encourage you to work more with this...you're into elemental manipulation...

          Basically...you go, hunny!!!
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            Tue, April 22, 2008 - 3:20 PM
            Thanks :)
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              Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:07 PM
              Have you ever read any of Christopher Penzkac's books? Cuz that's exactly how he describes beginning energy work. It's in his book, The Inner Temple of Witchcraft...a wonderful book...really teaches you how to go inside and work with what's within you...got some wonderful meditation techniques. I recommend it, highly...
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                Sat, April 26, 2008 - 7:35 PM
                No I haven't. But I should look into that! Thanks :)

                I'm not sure where I got the idea from... dance classes... theatre... yoga... maybe my mom. hehe But I'm big on feeling the energy in dance. I think it's all about building it up, milling it around in side you and then sending it out to the audiance (if you have one), or just keeping it for yourself if you need it... dance therapy, baby! I know I definitely don't feel right if I don't get my dance on for a while
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        Fri, April 25, 2008 - 10:36 AM
        "Another great trick is to take a circular movement -- any kind of figure 8 or circle -- and slooooooowwwww it down to be as slow as you can possibly go without actually stopping. Do a horizontal figure 8 with the hips and take 32 counts to finish each side, for example. This becomes both a movement meditation and also tells you where your posture gets out of control or where you need to stretch more."


        OMGosh, I so do this! At least I know now I'm not crazy now. I started doing it to stretch and strenghten all my muscle groups involved with each little movement.

        *high fives!*
  • Re: Fluidity?

    Tue, April 22, 2008 - 8:21 AM
    Another thing you can do is work on steps. When you transition from one move to the next, make sure it fits...In other words, don't go from a hip drop to a chest pop--work whats in between. So hip drop, lift, reverse belly roll, shoulder roll. Something like that. Don't skip body parts. Mind you, you don't have to do this every time; sometimes skipping looks really nifty! But every once and a while. This'll make you really fluid--it also opens the door for some off the chain combos!
    • Re: Fluidity?

      Fri, April 25, 2008 - 11:52 AM
      Kanika,
      That is so true. I'm not a fan of all the pop locking, especially when it's shoulder, hip, shoulder again, with nothing in between. Some professionals do a lovely job of it, but some of their fans that I see dance in what they believe is the same style just ends up looking spastic to me because they lose the flow.
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    Wed, April 23, 2008 - 6:58 AM
    I don't know if Rachel Brice says it on her DVD, I still haven't watched mine, but in her workshop she says she doesn't do difficult moves, she just drills them until they become "otherworldly". Meaning she will drill a move a minimum of 100 times EVERY day to become fluid in it.
    It was a lightbulb moment for me.
    She compared it to women who weave for a living and how they're movements become so fast and graceful that they become "otherworldly".
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      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 5:28 AM
      she just drills them until they become "otherworldly". Meaning she will drill a move a minimum of 100 times EVERY day to become fluid in it.
      It was a lightbulb moment for me.
      She compared it to women who weave for a living and how they're movements become so fast and graceful that they become "otherworldly".

      excellent!!thankyou !

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