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One of my only recorded performances. I feel really confident when I'm just practicing/drilling, but I feel like when I get on stage I get ahead of myself and try to do too much stuff at once, or just completely forget all the moves I know.
so- critique me please!
(i've been dancing for about 14 months now)
www.youtube.com/watch
so- critique me please!
(i've been dancing for about 14 months now)
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Mon, February 2, 2009 - 7:24 PM14 months?!?!?! Thats it??! Shit Megan! I loved it!!!! You have great stage presence, you really worked the room, great dance vocabulary, and you have great style (kinda reminded me of Sam Hasthorpe). I couldn't really see your facial expressions due to the video editing effect, but there's nothing (for me) to really critique!
I can't wait to see more!!!
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 6:48 AMMegan, you obviously have great command and control of your body movement. I only have 2 points for you to consider - first is at about 55 seconds in, you did a backbend that gave the camera a fantastic shot of your crotch - yes, I know you were dancing for three sides of the room so someone was going to have to get that view. HOWEVER, you have backbends that are deep enough that you could have easily done the backbend facing away from the camera (so we get to see your lovely face as you hit full extension) and the sides would have gotten the awesome table-top-side view.
You have outstanding pops/locks/level changes and liquid fluidity. Show me more bellydance please.
WARNING: RANT AHEAD
It's not just this performance that bothers me, but many I've been seeing over the past few years. Yes, I do expect to see other dance forms presented in a fusion piece - but I also expect to see some belly dance as well. Tossing in a sprinkling of shimmies doesn't quite meet my expectation of fusion. I'm starting to feel like I'm watching popping/breaking/liquid dancers in bellydance costumes. It's beautiful, it's amazingly skilled, it shows great attention to the music - but I'm left feeling that the heart of what makes bellydance what it is - is missing. I feel as if the mechanics of the movement has over powered the soul of the music (or perhaps it is the music that lacks soul?) -
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 4:31 PMyes, this is totally a problem that i have and that i am aware of. it seems like every time i get on stage i just like- blank out of my bellydance moves. it's frustrating as shit, to be honest. i think i just really need to start choreographing pieces to help me avoid this :( maybe it's just something that comes with getting more comfortable on stage as well, bu's like a panic and just forget that i know how to bellydance. sad pandas -
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Tue, February 3, 2009 - 6:15 PMThink about taking classes with Shareen el-Safy or Mahmoud Reda. Their styles are so amazingly different from tribal that it might give you some very interesting lyrical movements to counter-balance what you've got already got.
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Wed, February 4, 2009 - 8:51 AMGood job! Don't worry, you have a similar problem to most dancers. When you get on stage your adrenaline starts pumping and you get ahead of the music (story of my life). You have a great presence and you seem very comfortable moving around and dancing in a crowd. My recommendation would to be to challenge yourself and find slower, more fluid music to dance to. That way you'll be a bit forced to do more 'bellydance' moves versus pops and locks.
You're definitely on the right path! But try not to get ahead of yourself, slow it down and feel the music.
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Thu, February 5, 2009 - 6:54 AMOkay, for only been dancing 14 months you did an excellent job. I LOVE LOVE LOVE this style of dance but even I who am into Tribal fusion agree that more belly dance needs to be represented in your piece. But you mentioned you are aware of this and I think when you choreograph another piece that'll help you out a great deal. The main critique I have for you is to tone down on the pops and locks a bit. Pops/locks should be a special thing that surprises your audience. When you do that throughout the whole piece it loses its "omg hows she doing that" factor and dulls the senses. This is where you could intersperse some Tribal Combos or moves and some cabaret moves to make it truly Tribal fusion. The last critique I have is in the beginning of the piece your pops/locks were a bit forceful but you calmed down towards the middle and end of the dance. I've seen some famous dancers who have this same issue and it feels to me that they are throwing themselves around rather than smoothly going into the next series of moves. So watch that too.
As for good stuff, you otherwise had great control over your moves, you did a great job utilizing your arms I feel, your turkish drop was fantastic (though I'd loosen your arms a bit in the backbend because they looked too stiff and like you were concentrating too much on preparing to drop) you have great flexibility and you have wonderful grace which most beginners lack. You have extreme talent in moving your body the way you want it to and you are a good dancer who will be fantastic pretty soon! So keep it up! and let us see more and watch you grow! -
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Thu, February 5, 2009 - 7:20 AM"It's not just this performance that bothers me, but many I've been seeing over the past few years. Yes, I do expect to see other dance forms presented in a fusion piece - but I also expect to see some belly dance as well. Tossing in a sprinkling of shimmies doesn't quite meet my expectation of fusion. I'm starting to feel like I'm watching popping/breaking/liquid dancers in bellydance costumes. It's beautiful, it's amazingly skilled, it shows great attention to the music - but I'm left feeling that the heart of what makes bellydance what it is - is missing. I feel as if the mechanics of the movement has over powered the soul of the music (or perhaps it is the music that lacks soul?)
reply to this post "
I feel that Jennifer Rose has summed up some very important point here and I second every word of it. This is not just in feedback to you but a general thing. I do not live in the USA, and I find the amount of ATS and TF posted on tribe.net kind of overpowering and slightly disturbing lately.
Ok, I too know how to appreciate that matriarchal warrior dance ATS was originally meant to be, but when I see this flood of fusion videos, many of them very similar looking, I wonder: What is happening? Would dancing old school bellydance make you feel too vulnerable? Is it some issue of relating to yourself as a woman? Do you feel more comfortable coming across in some slightly agressive or defensive, cool looking butch style?
Just a few thoughts here.
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Thu, February 5, 2009 - 3:01 PMi think it's a combination of getting nervous as well as a lack of choreography. i have never choreographed a solo, or even parts of a solo- i've just always improved. when my dance partner and i choreographed a duet, it was full of bellydance and all lovely and whatnot.
I've probably done less than 10 performances so far, and i think i just get up there and my nerves override my focus a little. i've got another show coming up in march, so between now and then i'm going to try to choreograph at least half of a song (and then improv the other half) and see if that helps. i think having chunks of music/dance memorized will help because maybe while i'm doing the choreographed parts, it will give me a change to actually stop and think of some moves to do for upcoming improv parts.
thank you for the feedback! i realize i have this problem and i've been meaning to fix it- i guess it just took some other people telling me they see it to for me to get the ball rolling :)
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Thu, February 5, 2009 - 3:05 PMthank you!
that's a very good point about using the pops to surprise the audience. i'd never thought of it like that before but i'll definitely be sprinkling them on lightly from now. i think i have gotten into the habit of just using those as a default move while i'm trying to think of something else during a performance, instead of having my default move be an actual belly dance move. this is a mistake i will be fixing immediately!
and YES! i didn't realize until i saw myself that on my drops, the arm that i extend is going more up than straight out to extend my body line. i've started working on that already as well.
thank you so much for the feedback, it's really helping out a lot. unfortunately most of my dance troupe has moved to different cities, so it's a little difficult to get any feedback from experienced dancers. i'll definitely keep posting- the critiquing is helping immensely :D -
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Thu, February 5, 2009 - 3:07 PMwoops, that last one was in response to Shade.
tribe is being weird and not letting me respond to individual posts. boooo.
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Re: Feedback pleeeeease!
Thu, February 5, 2009 - 3:07 PMthank you!
that's a very good point about using the pops to surprise the audience. i'd never thought of it like that before but i'll definitely be sprinkling them on lightly from now. i think i have gotten into the habit of just using those as a default move while i'm trying to think of something else during a performance, instead of having my default move be an actual belly dance move. this is a mistake i will be fixing immediately!
and YES! i didn't realize until i saw myself that on my drops, the arm that i extend is going more up than straight out to extend my body line. i've started working on that already as well.
thank you so much for the feedback, it's really helping out a lot. unfortunately most of my dance troupe has moved to different cities, so it's a little difficult to get any feedback from experienced dancers. i'll definitely keep posting- the critiquing is helping immensely :D
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