ok, ok, for the lurkers too esceered to post on the other topics...
how about this:
what items, products, goods do you boycott as a matter of your lifestyle choices. for EG meat due to being vegetraian. products tested on animals. a product made in sweatshops where children work. etc...
tell us the product or item, why you made that choice and help educate us all.
how about this:
what items, products, goods do you boycott as a matter of your lifestyle choices. for EG meat due to being vegetraian. products tested on animals. a product made in sweatshops where children work. etc...
tell us the product or item, why you made that choice and help educate us all.
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Mon, July 3, 2006 - 12:16 PMA few things people might already know, but it wouldn't hurt to post them, are antiperspirent in deotorant and flouride in toothpaste.
I try to use natural products in these cases. Health food grocery stores and places like Trader Joes carry products for both. Natures Gate, Burts, and Toms of Maine have toothpaste and deodorant products that do not carry these dangerous chemicals. Antiperspirent has been proven to cause breast cancer. Flouride gets into the bloodstream and is said to be extremely bad for you.
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Mon, July 3, 2006 - 3:48 PMI will not purchase Nikes due to slave labor. I also have issues with Toshiba for breaking a defense contract confidentiality. I don't eat Domino's Pizza because they support Operation Rescue, or their owner does, same dif.
I also buy only organic milk and I try to make sure it hasn't be homogenized. If I can see Con Agra on the food label I put it back.
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Wed, July 5, 2006 - 12:37 PMexxon mobil has kissed my boycottin ass ever since the valdeze oil spill.
also sarah from natium educated me on these new lightbulbs that i am going to switch over to.
i dont visit mcdonalds, the circus, or water zoos. i primarily buy used clothing and housewares. we also recycle. alas, i am a bit of a hypocrite b/c i drive an SUV and i alwasy know i could do more.
ah well, even the little bits help i s'pose
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Fri, January 5, 2007 - 12:08 AMI don't buy dominos pizza anymore b/c they support pro-life organizations. I don't know if that is what operation rescue is, but either way I don't support them so I suppose if they're doing something else I don't agree with I'm safe. haha!
There's mobil/exxon for reasons I can't remember, but they were good ones, I swear. I try to not support the petroleum industry any more than I have to so anything with mineral oil in it is no good (plus that's horrible for your skin and body anyway). regular candles even support the industry so I'm to start buying soy ones if I can.
Nike is a big no-no for me. Child/slave labor. Ugh. Adidas tests on animals so no adidas for me, even the hemp shoes they have that I love so much. Converse moved all its production overseas and I believe they use child labor too. I could be wrong. Pretty much any major company and corporation I try not to support.
I try my hardest not to use products tested on animals (makeup and other beauty products...which is pretty easy since I mostly buy more natural types anyway. there are lots of companies you wouldn't expect, though, like glad...yanno, the trash bag people), with the exception of medication (but I don't take that unless I'm dying without it).
I no longer use products made by Tom's of Maine b/c they sold out to Colgate. Colgate tests on animals.
Here's a list of companies that do and don't test on animals if you're interested: www.caringconsumer.com/resour...ies.asp
In general:
I buy organic milk and meat, when I eat it, for me.
no anti-perspirants b/c of the aluminum (cancer and alzheimers? no thanks!)
no aluminum pans for the same reasons. when you cook it leaches aluminum into your food.
I avoid leather and fur unless it's used (thrift stores and such).
I refuse to suppost mcdonalds or wal-mart b/c they're both disgusting in so many ways.
Hm...what else....
I try to avoid plastics b/c they never biodegrade and melting them down to recycling them releases toxins. Plus they leach toxins into your food if you heat food in it (or I imagine if the food was hot and heated the plastic, same with water bottles getting left in the car).
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Fri, January 5, 2007 - 12:17 AMoh. yes. fair trade. that too.
and no diamonds.
www.diamondfacts.org/conflict/index.html
for one I can't fathom spending that much money on something I don't even think is that pretty. I don't care how much it's worth. I'm not like that. I don't need a diamond to prove anything and I'd rather not risk having it come from unscrupulous sources. there are plenty of other colorful stones I could have if I felt so inclined and if it's to go on a ring there are plenty of plain rings I could have, or just a stone that's not a diamond.
oh and I boycott piercers who use externally threaded jewelry and don't have proper education about piercing, quality jewelry, sterilizing, and aftercare. same deal with tattoo artists who don't have proper education about sterilization, inks, quality equipment, and who just aren't damn good at what they do. -
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Fri, January 5, 2007 - 12:25 AMone more! I can't believe I forgot!
I boycot any and all commercialized feminine hygeine products. I use a divacup. there are at least 2 other kinds of cups. I also use cloth pads. shoot, there are even natural tampons and pads-both unbleached. I cannot support any of the companies that produce feminine wipes, douches, bleached tampons and pads, anything scented that is supposed to go near a vulva, etc. for one, the chemicals are toxic to our bodies and 2.) the commercial feminine hygeine industry supports keeping women feeling dirty about themselves. In fact, they are one of the main reasons women do feel that way. We're not dirty. We're not gross. Periods may not be super fun OMG time but we're not disgusting. Whatever helps them sell their product though. I highly recommend a book called cunt by inga muscio. -
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Sun, February 11, 2007 - 7:50 AMI second that one ! - I'm a very happy mooncup user and wish that someone would shout about the advantages. Here we have a product that is hygenic, comfortable, cleaner, reduces waste and saves a huge amount of money. But its hidden on the bottom shelf. Why ?, because the big companies would far rather we went back month after month to buy their product and they have the advertising budget. I only found out about the mooncup because someone had written the web site address on the door of a ladies loo !, and yet its for sale on every high street in this country. I wish I had found out about them earlier ! -
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Sun, February 11, 2007 - 8:59 AMI have a mooncup on my shelf in my bedroom that I've had for well over a year and I've been too scared to use it! -
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Mon, February 12, 2007 - 9:51 AMlol - honestly its not scary. we can chat off group if you need a cheerleader !
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Mon, March 31, 2008 - 9:31 PMI have never heard of a mooncup... whats that?
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Fri, January 5, 2007 - 4:41 AMI have had a question about animal testing for a while now, maybe you guys are the ones to answer it.
I work in a lab and deal with a lot of MSDSs (Material Safety Data Sheets). Most, if not all, have a toxicological profile of the chemical which normally refers to the LD50 (the lethal dose of the chemical in 50% of the population tested). Almost EVERY chemical and compound has this data. So, all of the products that say 'no animal testing', are they just referring to the final product that is sold? Does this claim carry through to their raw materials which are, most likely, purchased somewhere else?
My gut feeling, after working in an industry that is okay with calling a product 'green' when the only claim to green it has is that it's stored in a container that is 25% recycled material, is that the 'no testing on animals' claim only applies to the final product and the materials that make up the product are tested on animals. But I'm a cynic. Anyone else know for sure? -
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Tue, January 9, 2007 - 12:21 PMthat one I'm not positive about. a lot of companies will claim they don't test on animals but really it's only the finished product. it's hard to find out too. they don't wanna give that info up even if you contact them.
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Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:25 AMI am very out of date on my info but will chime in what was & hopefully it will get better (*~*)
Labelling is a big marketing problem for the consumer that wants to buy better but is hurried in life.
Years ago Aubrey Hampton, the founder & research head of Aubrey Organics, started a federal court case to force the FDA & US to have clearer & better guidelines to labelling; this before Revlon packaged 'natural' hair dyes bcz they add a few so called herbs in the extremely toxic formulas.
There were 2 other companies that joined AAH in this court battle -Desert Essence of Tea Tree fame & I'm too rusty to remember the other......
AH has wanted to force companies to label correctly in that a consumer can easily understand what really is true. But basically only the word *organic* has legal guidelines. I can sell you anything as ^Pure ____* bcz it is pure bs not pretend bs. Or it can be pretend bs & I label it pure if some where on the label I mention that the bs meets the minumim bs requirement to becalled bs...... which very low naturel bs can qualify for the rest of the junque to be called pure
Organic also has minimum requirements but labelers can put the word organic somewhere as long as the list of ingrediants matches up to a required amount which is Not 100%. Responsible companies will say 97% pure such as Burt's Bees. Some such as Dr Haushcka are 100%
A classic offense is that Walmart jumped on the 'noveau green politics' by announcing they were going to be carryiing "organic food" in their superstores & at a Lower pri$e! then the usual crap food they sell to promote "^green awareness^" (I guess them assuming that their average buyer is Not aware) Anyway last week to much less fanfare they are being Investigated for selling regular grown foods in "organic" labelled packaging (among their many alleged broken laws).....
I believe "not tested on animals" means no concious money put into animal testing. True concious herbal products use traditional knowledge or direct testing on plants &/or humans to say that. Other companies are using public domain historical lab knowledge & no further testing has been pursued. Many feel (& this was 10 years ago) that enough info has been compiled & nothing new is needed to subject animals to torture testing for the salvation of humans.
Some countries have much stricter labelling laws. Unfortunately the companies can sell here what they can't sell in their own country; akin to other countries can use toxins we can't & can sell the products back to us with the toxin outlawed here. We still produce chemicals that are sold to other countries that then sell us the food or cosmetics.... -
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Fri, February 9, 2007 - 11:47 AMIn the UK for things to be sold as organic it must be certified as such. There are around 10 bodies that do this, probably the best known is the Soil Association:
www.soilassociation.org/
and generally on the ingredients list it will be labelled which are organic and which are not (if any are), so you can see for yourself.
One of the problems we have here is that not everybody realises that there is a law about organic labelling, and so some unscrupulous sellers (generally of loose produce rather than things with actual labels) are selling things as organic when they are not certified. They may actually be organic, but without the certification it's illegal.
The EU also has strict rules about GM labels, this actually angered a lot of US food producers because it meant that a lot of their products became financially unviable here, as people will not buy GM food. Complaints were actually made to the WTO about it! Because of course money is more important that the public's confidence in the food they eat and their longterm wellbeing. -
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Fri, February 16, 2007 - 10:07 AMAs the fight over $$ has spread into naturel, pure & organic, certification here, usa, has become too expensive for the smaller farmer so they are listed as "pesticide free" not bcz they aren't organic. I have come to prefer that label as it means a local grower or a smaller concientious manufacturer.
Also some of our box grocery stores will sell certified organic but Imported! from around the world..... so you still get underripe, soon to rot, plastic wrapped tomatoes from france.... -
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Fri, February 16, 2007 - 12:14 PMToo Expensive? How so? As far as I know, because I researched doing it with my own garden so I could barter/trade at the local farmer's market, all you need to do is register with the Oregon Tilth association and make a pledge to use only natural products in your garden.
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Tue, June 19, 2007 - 12:16 PMWhat toothpaste do you use if not from Toms of maine?? I try not to buy products from companys that test I checked out Tom's of Maine they still don't use tested on animal products.... Just wondering the options for me.. Also if anyone has options to wash clothing with let me know I am very sensitive and I am using Purex free and clear because I can't find the company on the testing list. I did'nt realize that Neutorgena is owed by johnson and Johnson and now looking for something to replace those products. AWHHHH trying to do what is best for the poor animals out there!! I feel as it is our obligation to do so. -
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Wed, June 20, 2007 - 8:46 AMI posted the information below on the Makeup and Hair for Dancers Tribe and my blog but also want to add that if you use hand sanitizers,the alcohol content has to be over 60% percent or I read that the product will NOT destroy all the nasties frolicking upon thy paws.
I was alerted to the dangers of Triclosan to the immune system in the Sunday Chicago Tribune newspaper. Upon further investigation I also found out that water treatment facilities can NOT remove this chemical from our water so it's harmful to the environment too! Triclosan/Microban/Irgasan is a chemical or antimicrobial contained in some "natural" deodorants, cosmetics, soaps and other household products so would you really want to put this stuff in, on or near your body???
If you're interested in more info, there is an article, including a listing of product names that contain triclosan:
www.beyondpesticides.org/pesti...ed.pdf
Save your bodies!
and
Help save the planet, it's the only one with chocolate! =O)
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Wed, June 20, 2007 - 11:36 AMthat link didn't work -pls try again
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Wed, June 20, 2007 - 7:30 PMLet me try this again, parts of the link were missing, thus the problem:
www.beyondpesticides.org/pesti...ed.pdf
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Tue, April 1, 2008 - 3:44 PMGina- check out Maggies Soap Nuts- if you buy the huge bag, not too expensive- washes so clean- love it! that and charlies soap (actually a detergent, but that's the name anyway)
both super friendly both for the earth & for sensitive skin
I skip the toothpaste & use baking soda and an occasional rinse with hydrogen peroxide- haven't had a cavity in YEARS & I used to all the time
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Thu, July 6, 2006 - 9:47 AMLessee...
* I buy organic whenever I can, especially with milk and coffee, and fair trade on the coffee. Regular coffee beans have so many toxic herbicides, pesticides and fertilizers used on them. Not that coffee is good for us, by any stretch of the imagination, but at least if you're going to drink it, drink a more healthful version of it.
* Hubby and I do not shop at Wal-Mart because of their business practices. We follow the philosophy of 'voting with our dollars'.
* And we will not purchase any product with Aspartame as a sweetener in it, such as Diet Coke, etc. In fact, I use Stevia, an all-natural sweetener most of the time, and in general we try to avoid the chemical sweeteners. These can tend to contain dangerous chemicals in trace amounts and just are not good for the body. Aspartame has too much controversy surrounding it and its effects on the body that we'd just rather avoid it. -
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Fri, July 7, 2006 - 6:54 AMI second Kathy with the organics preferred, and in fact I try to buy/trade as much locally as I can in order to truly keep my dollars in the community. I bank with a credit union because I am pretty sure Wells Fargo is owned by Satan and his minions ; ) and I try to never shop at Walmart if I can help it for the same reason as Kathy (unfortunately when one lives in a rural area it's sometimes unavoidable).
I also don't shop at Walgreen's and have sent them a boycott letter informing them of this, due to the whole controversy over the "day after" pill; several pharmacists have been pretty aggressive toward women trying to get their scripts filled in recent months even here in AZ, and violating the law regarding referral to another pharmacist -- one even took the prescription and tore it into little pieces! I feel that if you don't want to fill it that's MAYBE ok, but it's NOT ok to force your beliefs on another in the process by refusing to refer it. Walgreen's response to me was basically "we're sorry you feel that way but we're not going to make our pharmacists comply with the law"
I also do make it a point to let people know about places where I have gotten good service, products, prices, etc so that the business can grow. -
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Tue, November 7, 2006 - 12:11 PMI boycott veal as I disagree strongly with how veal calves in America are raised. I boycott Citgo products as they are products of Venezuela whose government is openly anti-US. -
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Mon, November 13, 2006 - 12:34 PMI'm with yea on the veal thing. I add lamb to the list because I just don't like the thought of eating baby animals. Can't do it, it makes me very sad. -
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Tue, November 14, 2006 - 9:47 AManyone in AZ should have voted YES on 204 w/regard to the Humane Farming aspect.
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Tue, November 14, 2006 - 9:55 AMI have a problem with Walmart. Aside from the fact that they donate waaaaaay too much to the republican party, they refused to sell a George Carlin book "When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops." He's a comedian, for cryin' out loud! So, Walmart isn't getting one dime from me!
OH...fyi... in case you haven't heard, there is a site called buyblue.org. They have a list of "blue" companies (those who contribute more to blue causes than to red). It's not just what you buy, but where you buy it.
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Tue, November 14, 2006 - 7:51 PMSo did I, my uncle had a farm and we worked one for a few years when I was a kid in exchange for housing -- I know for a fact that the animals are happier and healthier (although you do make less money than with huge assembly line type ops) when they can roam relatively freely. One can at least be self sustaining that way, if not rich.
Regarding walmart...they're actually pretty hypocritical because if you go to their website they sell ALL KINDS of books, DVD's, CD's and such that they won't carry in their stores due to the fear of offending a certain portion of their customer base. I haven't looked, but I'm sure that book is one of the contraband items, they sell books on the occult and Pagan religions on their website the last time I checked.
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Thu, December 14, 2006 - 5:01 AMI've always boycotted Walmart - they are just so abhorrent!! But then I read in this month's Fortune magazie how they are at the forefront of gay workers' rights. What am I supposed to do now???? And now all these ultra-conservative types are talking about boycotting them - I'm in a quandry. I still hate them, but man, you just have to support someone who takes a moral and ethical stand against their main support base - the bigoted social conservatives.
It was all so much easier when Walmart did nothing but evil ...
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Wed, January 31, 2007 - 4:29 AMMost of the lamb we eat isn't strictly a baby animal though. Lamb by definition is a year old or under, but generally it's considered more economical in the US and UK to not kill and eat the very young lambs as they don't provide a lot of meat, so they tend to be at the older end of the scale. Veal hwoever is very young and I don't see the point when Beef is so nice!
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Sun, December 3, 2006 - 7:43 AMI, too boycott veal for the same reason. Also, ANYTHING that comes in individual containers for "convenience"; such as juice boxes, "Lunchables", etc., all that extra packaging is so wasteful!!
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Sun, November 19, 2006 - 1:20 PMWell, I've been vegetarian my entire adult life and became vegan at the beginning of last summer. So there are MANY things I don't eat/purchase/use for my own ethical reasons. I am constantly trying to become more and more aware about how I spend my money and trying to support more local venues. I think when I fail, it's because I've been lazy and not been as vigilant as I feel I should.
One really tricky area for me as a performer has been makeup. I get sucked in to the pretty colors and packaging in stores and purchase without thinking about a)what's in it, b) who made it, c)what/who had to suffer for it to come to fruition. I know it's a process and I can't expect to be perfect. But I'm trying to be more conscious!
I congradulate and appreciate those who voted yes on 204. You rock!
Thanks, Kahlea, for reminding me that buying used clothing is a helpful way to reduce/reuse/recycle. That's something else I need to remember to do! -
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Tue, November 21, 2006 - 12:03 PMOMG-clothing, housewares, furnishings, sports gear-we buy probably 75% or more of what we use (aside from foods) at 2nd hand stores.
On my way home from an out of town trip this wknd we passed a couple of ladfills. I can only imagine what that'll be like in a few decades. -
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Sat, December 2, 2006 - 6:02 PMFort (I know I am going to spell this wrong) (um, yeah, I'm gonna do it phonetically instead) Wah-Chew-Kah in AZ is about to uthenize a herd of elk b/c despite their efforts to keep the elk off of the runway, the elk keep coming back to the runway and a plane recently ran into an elk or two.
I am so disgusted by this.
1. WE (meaning humans) built an air base where a natural habitat occurs.
2. WE are going to off them rather than relocate b/c their instincts are to roam and graze?
Ugh. I am just so pissed. Save the humans-kill the animals. I mean it is OUR planet after all; who needs animals?
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Thu, December 14, 2006 - 1:53 PMI totally agree! I live out in hickville where people shoot nearly everything! I feel so bad for the animals! I've said the same thing to people who believe in killing a critter on " their property"! I mean come on, where else are they supposed to go we're pushing animals to the boundary of extinction, and please the critters live outside and are doing no physical harm to you, so why shoot it! Well, to save y'all from a rant, I'll stop now! I don't live in Arizona, but I would have voted for humane farming if I could have!
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Fri, December 15, 2006 - 8:33 AMI also try to steer clear of Walmart. More so now that I've hear that it would take the average Walmart employee 1000 years of work to make what a Walmart CEO makes in one year! Outrageous.
I do have a bit of a problem with boycotting items that state they are free from animal testing. A friend once showed me an aricle on the subject (I WISH I could remember the magazine it was from!) that pointed out a federal law that requires certain products (toothpaste, makeup, etc..) to be first tested on humans before it can be leagally sold. Fine, right? BUT! There is another federal law that states that before any product is tested on a human, it must be tested to be "human- safe" by using animal testing first. Companies can say they don't test their products on animals because they have purchased test results from other companies that did the testing for them. I don't know which is worse: buying from a company that tests on animals, or buying from a company that pays other companies to do the dirty work while they tout themselves as "animal safe". I'd like to check out the current laws regarding this since I read the article about three years ago, so things might have changed by now. I'd really like to know if these products currently are TRULY animal safe. -
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Fri, December 15, 2006 - 11:24 AMWalmart is another one for me... They may be in the forfront of gay rights but they sure don't like unions. The closed a store in Canada becasue the employees joined a union.. Akkkk...
Veal and white eggs for me.. I do not eat baby animals.. And i do not eat eggs from "factory" hens.
I, and many of my quilting friends, buy farm eggs from a friend of mine..
I do not eat meat that has been hunted for sport.
I also try to buy things that are not over packaged and recycle everything that i can. We only have 2 small white bags of garbage a week now.
I also use fabric bags when grocery shopping now too..
I use cosmetics that claim not to be tested on animals. But this too is a dicey situation. I do understand the need to test some things on animals before testing on humans. But.. And a big big BUT here i do hope/wish that the animals are treated humanly. I do support the work the SPCA does with farms, etc.
I support a couple of local animal rescue agencies with money and things every year.
I never throw out books and magazines, they go to the thrift store to be enjoyed again by somebody else. I also try, as best as i can, to buy used books.
That's all i can think of right now.. Keep up the good work!
And if you are boycotting a product or company, please call/email them to let them know why you are. They can't change thier ways unless they know what they are doing is wrong...
TTYS, KathleenA
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Fri, December 15, 2006 - 11:34 AMWOW! Dianne great post! If you ever recall where you read that....
also if you havent heard of it, Adbusters is a GREAT magazine.
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