I've been thinking lately about the social politics (if you will) of speech, of who is "allowed" to speak and under what circumstances and who is "silenced" and the methods by which they are silenced. I'm chewing on the status hierarchy of who is permitted to speak vs. who is not (or whose speech is disregarded). My brain is trying to tie this in to the social construction of consensual reality. I feel like I have information on this somewhere in my literary theory books, but it has been a while since I cuddled up to anything but deconstruction that I don't remember (for some reason Roland Barthes and Baudrillard are tickling my brain stem). cuindless? Help? (I love people who are smarter than I am).
It's all just a'swirlin' around in my noggin... God, I'm gonna have to go search through my theory books tonight (shudder)...
any thoughts, anyone?
slade--help, before my head explodes
It's all just a'swirlin' around in my noggin... God, I'm gonna have to go search through my theory books tonight (shudder)...
any thoughts, anyone?
slade--help, before my head explodes
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Re: the sociopolitics of speech
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 12:48 PMIn the pack mentality of the human animal, speech is valued both as a form of idea exchange as well as a speculation of social status. Who is allowed to speak and under what circumstances is a direct correlation to their perceived value by the pack. For this reason, it is usually a function of authority, which is determined based upon what the particular pack in question values. For instance, in a fairly unacademic and fashion conscious crowd, the one with the best perceived fashion sense will be more highly valued. The group will then be more inclined to listen to that person's opinion, while effectively silencing anyone else who chooses to speak over them. In a more academically inclined crowd that is more preoccupied with science, logic and critical thinking, the one with the best intellect will probably be most highly valued, and their speech will be given more weight.
In the human pack, silencing occurs in several ways. One is the so-called "presence attack", which is most often employed by an icy stare without any reply to the speaker. Another common method is for someone of high status to simply "shush" the person of low status, usually by just telling them to be quiet. In this way the "alpha" (i.e. the current speaker) retains their perceived status by not dealing with the threat directly and allowing underlings to do it.
One thing that is valued in all packs, regardless of what the pack itself values, is the ability to communicate those ideas effectively through whatever medium is required. For instance, no matter what my knowledge of 1980's inner city hip-hop might be, if I were to attempt to communicate my ideas to a group of inner city youths it probably would not go over well because of my methods of communication. On the other hand, an inner city youth would probably not be able to communicate his ideas on acoustic sound physics to my peers in the lab regardless of how much he knows about the subject. These are stereotypes, of course, but they are also most likely true ones. The point is that part of the value of the message is the medium itself (Marhsall McLuhan). Straying from the medium devalues both the message and messenger.
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Re: the sociopolitics of speech
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 3:19 PMNo, I'm still chewing on it. I'm going to look in my lit theory tonight and see what creeps out of the base of my brain...
slade
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Re: the sociopolitics of speech
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:28 PMMcLuhan! Hear hear!
Cuin, have you read Neil Postman's _Amusing Ourselves to Death_? He was one of McLuhan's students. -
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 5:05 PMNo I have not. I take it you are a fan of McLuhan's work? -
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 4:18 PMWell, I haven't read anything of McLuhan himself, but I loved Postman's book, and what (little) I know of McLuhan is pretty interesting. Can you recommend any primers on his work?
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Re: the sociopolitics of speech
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:18 PMHi Slade,
Interesting topic...
Question, is status hierarchy the only determinant? Or, are context and content also relevant? You can't say "the Seven Words" on radio and TV, but you can on stage. When can I, a lawyer, tell a tyrant judge who interrupts because he has eruptive judgitis that I an my client have a right to be heard?
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Wed, April 30, 2008 - 7:03 PMAre the seven words still seven? Seems to me in recent years that number has diminished to six. I could've sworn I've heard piss on the television in the past couple of years.
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Re: the sociopolitics of speech
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 8:48 PMI would argue that status hierarchy is the only determinant, it's just that status hierarchy changes from moment to moment depending on the topic discussed. For instance, if we were discussing law right now then practicing lawyers would be at the top of the conversational hierarchy, but the moment we start discussing acoustic wave physics then I ascend to alpha status. -
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 7:39 AMOh well, seems to me that the status hierarchy always changes by context and and subject matter, so for example, when it comes to the sewage system, the subaltern gets to speak, because even the pope has to poop, and if the sewage gets backed up he has to defer to the subaltern with the plunger.
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 12:19 PMTodd... (choking back laughter)...that was great!
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 12:18 PMTodd, I think context and content are absolutely relevant. Try that with the judge and see how fast you get charged with contempt ; )
slade
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Re: the sociopolitics of speech
Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:20 PMI don't know a whole lot on the technical side of your question, but if you haven't read it already, check out Gayatri Chakravorty Spivak's essay "Can the Subaltern Speak?" It deal with just this topic, though mostly I've seen her referenced in analysis of the fallout of Post-Colonialism and extreme cases of fixed social hierarchy (e.g. India's caste system). It's quite interesting. -
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Thu, May 1, 2008 - 12:22 PMyeah, I am somewhat familiar with Spivak. Might be interesting to give her another look-see with this topic in mind. Cuindless, I think you are right about the hierarchy changing from moment to moment.
The concept of "the unspeakable" fascinates me, both ideas that are literally unspeakable (because they involve serious trauma, for ex, or because we literally lack the appropriate words to frame the experience) or are unspeakable because they are so unacceptable as to lead the listener to engage in denying/shunning behavior.
More later.
slade
god--why is Roland Barthes tickling the back of my brain? I keep thinking about _The Pleasure of the Text_ which doesn't seem relevent.
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